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Post by The Escapist on May 12, 2019 9:08:43 GMT -5
Most of Beady Eye's songs were, "I wish they went past point A on that idea." However, it's a massive disservice to act as if they only produced drivel. Flick of the Finger Soul Love Four Letter Word World Outside My Room Second Bite of the Apple (which though much maligned, has one of the best endings of any Gallagher-project) Iz RiteOff at the Next Exit Would have all been album highlights on any Oasis album. EDIT: FWIW, I do very very very much love the ending to Wigwam. I don't know about that one, chief.
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Post by Let It Bleed on May 12, 2019 10:38:56 GMT -5
Let's not forget, Heathen Chemistry was celebrated until Don't Believe The Truth was released....and, so on.... Thanks. What was the line reviewers kept repeating over and over since 2001? “Oasis returns to form” or something like that. I think I remember 'Hindu Times' leaking early......put it on a burnt cd, and listened to it on the family room stereo at full blast; then I spilled red wine all over the white family room carpet, kinda killed the buzz and vibe, not a total power move. God bless.
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Post by Deleted on May 12, 2019 16:39:47 GMT -5
If Four Letter Word was on an Oasis setlist it would have blown the roof off. Immense song wasted by amateur promo with Beady Eye. Shame. Should have been the first thing we ever heard from the band. Set the tone or illusion they were a wrecking force. Yeah, and instead what we got was....
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Post by Manualex on May 12, 2019 19:22:07 GMT -5
Should have been the first thing we ever heard from the band. Set the tone or illusion they were a wrecking force. Yeah, and instead what we got was.... Baby come ons to the infinitum and beyond
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Post by Frank Lee Vulgar on May 13, 2019 3:02:19 GMT -5
Most of Beady Eye's songs were, "I wish they went past point A on that idea." However, it's a massive disservice to act as if they only produced drivel. Flick of the Finger Soul Love Four Letter Word World Outside My Room Second Bite of the Apple (which though much maligned, has one of the best endings of any Gallagher-project) Iz Rite Off at the Next Exit Would have all been album highlights on any Oasis album. EDIT: FWIW, I do very very very much love the ending to Wigwam. I like a lot of BDI songs, but let's not pretend that Soul Love, World Outside My Room and Iz Rite are anywhere near as good as any 1990s Oasis album track. I do wonder what album BDI would have put out given the proper time and preparation. BE was good but the songwriting shows that it was only 2 years after DGSS.
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Post by captaincrankshaft on May 13, 2019 3:31:35 GMT -5
I quite like this one from the couple of live videos I’ve seen. However, we all know Noel steals parts from songs (which I don’t actually mind as long as it’s stolen from a decent song!) and I can’t help thinking he’s nicked the verses from Weller’s Brushed. Which, by the way is a fucking good tune.
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Post by batfink30 on May 13, 2019 11:28:49 GMT -5
I quite like this one from the couple of live videos I’ve seen. However, we all know Noel steals parts from songs (which I don’t actually mind as long as it’s stolen from a decent song!) and I can’t help thinking he’s nicked the verses from Weller’s Brushed. Which, by the way is a fucking good tune. Sounds more like Weller "Science".
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Post by rebus on May 13, 2019 11:47:25 GMT -5
Really like the sound of it.
Major props to Chris Sharrock for the drumming on this. Imagine this with Fat Bono.
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Post by mossy on May 13, 2019 12:20:58 GMT -5
Quite liking how we’re getting drip fed tunes over this year like tapas instead of one big ploughman’s sandwich of an album. Makes a nice change. X
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Post by captaincrankshaft on May 13, 2019 12:37:35 GMT -5
I quite like this one from the couple of live videos I’ve seen. However, we all know Noel steals parts from songs (which I don’t actually mind as long as it’s stolen from a decent song!) and I can’t help thinking he’s nicked the verses from Weller’s Brushed. Which, by the way is a fucking good tune. Sounds more like Weller "Science". It’s in the stroke of a brush, it’s in the wave of a hand - so similar to what NG sings How’s Karate btw?
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Post by Deleted on May 13, 2019 12:43:29 GMT -5
Quite liking how we’re getting drip fed tunes over this year like tapas instead of one big ploughman’s sandwich of an album. Makes a nice change. X See if you still feel that way when you've paid £36 for less than an album of material
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Post by matt on May 13, 2019 14:05:37 GMT -5
If Four Letter Word was on an Oasis setlist it would have blown the roof off. Immense song wasted by amateur promo with Beady Eye. Shame. Should have been the first thing we ever heard from the band. Set the tone or illusion they were a wrecking force. Initial impressions would have improved but the album is the thing that stands the test of time. No single release stands a chance if the album is poor.
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Post by bt95 on May 13, 2019 15:15:41 GMT -5
Quite liking how we’re getting drip fed tunes over this year like tapas instead of one big ploughman’s sandwich of an album. Makes a nice change. X See if you still feel that way when you've paid £36 for less than an album of material WBTM had 9 actual songs. 3eps could well mean more than that. Heck, 3 eps could total to 12 songs, which is more than any Oasis-related album bar AYW.
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Post by Lennon2217 on May 13, 2019 15:24:48 GMT -5
See if you still feel that way when you've paid £36 for less than an album of material WBTM had 9 actual songs. 3eps could well mean more than that. Heck, 3 eps could total to 12 songs, which is more than any Oasis-related album bar AYW. I only wish they were more like true EPs (5-6 songs) and not like old school singles (2-3 songs plus remixes). Either way its a win for all of us.
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Post by Deleted on May 13, 2019 17:08:12 GMT -5
See if you still feel that way when you've paid £36 for less than an album of material WBTM had 9 actual songs. 3eps could well mean more than that. Heck, 3 eps could total to 12 songs, which is more than any Oasis-related album bar AYW. This guy's spending £45 on the picture discs. Mark my words.
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Post by Deleted on May 13, 2019 17:42:09 GMT -5
Should have been the first thing we ever heard from the band. Set the tone or illusion they were a wrecking force. Initial impressions would have improved but the album is the thing that stands the test of time. No single release stands a chance if the album is poor. Not only that but DGSS was too God damn long. Its almost as if they took every leftover they had from their Oasis days and threw it on there. The tracks didnt gel, there was no cohesion in the sound. The album would have been much stronger minus Three Ring Circus, Edge Of The Noise, and The Beat Goes On.... and Bring The Light.
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Post by Lennon2217 on May 13, 2019 17:48:50 GMT -5
Initial impressions would have improved but the album is the thing that stands the test of time. No single release stands a chance if the album is poor. Not only that but DGSS was too God damn long. Its almost as if they took every leftover they had from their Oasis days and threw it on there. The tracks didnt gel, there was no cohesion in the sound. The album would have been much stronger minus Three Ring Circus, Edge Of The Noise, and The Beat Goes On.... and Bring The Light. So..............definitely not better than Definitely Maybe?
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Post by glider on May 13, 2019 17:50:54 GMT -5
Initial impressions would have improved but the album is the thing that stands the test of time. No single release stands a chance if the album is poor. Not only that but DGSS was too God damn long. Its almost as if they took every leftover they had from their Oasis days and threw it on there. The tracks didnt gel, there was no cohesion in the sound. The album would have been much stronger minus Three Ring Circus, Edge Of The Noise, and The Beat Goes On.... and Bring The Light. As bad as those songs are, Lillywhite's production was the sewage wash. I don't care how much influence Liam had over the project on wanting the sound of the album to be pseudo-retro, he's an acclaimed producer and had the power to leave the project if Liam wasn't backing down - he isn't some sort of Chris Potter. Plus, it's kind of evident Lillywhite's lost his touch in recent years (that 2017 remake of Red Hill Mining Town is awful).
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Post by Manualex on May 13, 2019 18:02:18 GMT -5
WBTM had 9 actual songs. 3eps could well mean more than that. Heck, 3 eps could total to 12 songs, which is more than any Oasis-related album bar AYW. This guy's spending £45 on the picture discs. Mark my words. You could Listen to the songs in Spotify or other streaming platforms, if the alternative is nothing from Noel til late in 2020 I'd rather have the EPs. If there's something I dont like simply wont be played much after its release date. I dont think I've heard The good rebel more than what you could count in one hand.
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Post by Lennon2217 on May 13, 2019 18:03:07 GMT -5
Not only that but DGSS was too God damn long. Its almost as if they took every leftover they had from their Oasis days and threw it on there. The tracks didnt gel, there was no cohesion in the sound. The album would have been much stronger minus Three Ring Circus, Edge Of The Noise, and The Beat Goes On.... and Bring The Light. As bad as those songs are, Lillywhite's production was the sewage wash. I don't care how much influence Liam had over the project on wanting the sound of the album to be pseudo-retro, he's an acclaimed producer and had the power to leave the project if Liam wasn't backing down - he isn't some sort of Chris Potter. Plus, it's kind of evident Lillywhite's lost his touch in recent years (that 2017 remake of Red Hill Mining Town is awful). Liam went from high praise of Lillywhite in early 2011 throwing him under the bus in early 2013 as the root of DGSS problems. Lilly is a hired gun. He’s gonna do whatever the band asks. The main problem is the band didn’t have enough high quality songs. You can’t polish a turd as Noel once claimed.
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Post by glider on May 13, 2019 18:09:34 GMT -5
As bad as those songs are, Lillywhite's production was the sewage wash. I don't care how much influence Liam had over the project on wanting the sound of the album to be pseudo-retro, he's an acclaimed producer and had the power to leave the project if Liam wasn't backing down - he isn't some sort of Chris Potter. Plus, it's kind of evident Lillywhite's lost his touch in recent years (that 2017 remake of Red Hill Mining Town is awful). Liam went from high praise of Lillywhite in early 2011 throwing him under the bus in early 2013 as the root of DGSS problems. Lilly is a hired gun. He’s gonna do whatever the band asks. The main problem is the band didn’t have enough high quality songs. You can’t polish a turd as Noel once claimed. I don't get it. Lillywhite's knighted right? So much esteem in the music industry, but shriveled up to Liam Gallagher? There's no reason that project at least didn't have solid production. It seems more a matter of poor songwriting and poor production efforts on both sides, it was doomed to fail.
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Post by Lennon2217 on May 13, 2019 18:13:12 GMT -5
Liam went from high praise of Lillywhite in early 2011 throwing him under the bus in early 2013 as the root of DGSS problems. Lilly is a hired gun. He’s gonna do whatever the band asks. The main problem is the band didn’t have enough high quality songs. You can’t polish a turd as Noel once claimed. I don't get it. Lillywhite's knighted right? So much esteem in the music industry, but shriveled up to Liam Gallagher? There's no reason that project at least didn't have solid production. It seems more a matter of poor songwriting and poor production efforts on both sides, it was doomed to fail. I recently bumped up a thread containing DGSS tracks ranks and thoughts. Go have a read. This place ate that shit up in February 2011.
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Post by sfsorrow on May 13, 2019 18:53:06 GMT -5
WBTM had 9 actual songs. 3eps could well mean more than that. Heck, 3 eps could total to 12 songs, which is more than any Oasis-related album bar AYW. I only wish they were more like true EPs (5-6 songs) and not like old school singles (2-3 songs plus remixes). Either way its a win for all of us. To be fair though, the industry standard for EPs was 4 songs for quite a long time - look at the EPs released in the 60s for example.
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Post by Lennon2217 on May 13, 2019 19:37:35 GMT -5
I only wish they were more like true EPs (5-6 songs) and not like old school singles (2-3 songs plus remixes). Either way its a win for all of us. To be fair though, the industry standard for EPs was 4 songs for quite a long time - look at the EPs released in the 60s for example. Yeah but for the entire 90s when I was getting into music every single had 4 tracks. So to me a single is 4, an EP is 6 and an album 10+.
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Post by Deleted on May 13, 2019 19:43:11 GMT -5
I don't get it. Lillywhite's knighted right? So much esteem in the music industry, but shriveled up to Liam Gallagher? There's no reason that project at least didn't have solid production. It seems more a matter of poor songwriting and poor production efforts on both sides, it was doomed to fail. I recently bumped up a thread containing DGSS tracks ranks and thoughts. Go have a read. This place ate that shit up in February 2011. Link? Edit: never mind, found it 😁
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