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Post by AdidasNG72 on May 3, 2019 13:41:22 GMT -5
Not bad on first listen. It didn't grab me like Holy Mountain did on first hearing it.
Bit too slow for my liking. The bass sounds quite good, as does the ZZ Top guitar riff, but I don't like the female backing vocals, which are becoming very irritating the more Noel uses them. Hearing them now, it reminds me of the worst parts of WBTM.
I'm all for an INXS sound, but I wish he'd go for the faster, more upbeat tempo songs that INXS did, rather than the plodding `I Need You Tonight' rip off.
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Post by Marissa on May 3, 2019 13:46:02 GMT -5
Not bad on first listen. It didn't grab me like Holy Mountain did on first hearing it. Bit too slow for my liking. The bass sounds quite good, as does the ZZ Top guitar riff, but I don't like the female backing vocals, which are becoming very irritating the more Noel uses them. Hearing them now, it reminds me of the worst parts of WBTM. I'm all for an INXS sound, but I wish he'd go for the faster, more upbeat tempo songs that INXS did, rather than the plodding `I Need You Tonight' rip off. there's a lot of things that are wrong with this song and with WBTM but female vocalists aren't one of them. |
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Post by AdidasNG72 on May 3, 2019 14:02:51 GMT -5
Not bad on first listen. It didn't grab me like Holy Mountain did on first hearing it. Bit too slow for my liking. The bass sounds quite good, as does the ZZ Top guitar riff, but I don't like the female backing vocals, which are becoming very irritating the more Noel uses them. Hearing them now, it reminds me of the worst parts of WBTM. I'm all for an INXS sound, but I wish he'd go for the faster, more upbeat tempo songs that INXS did, rather than the plodding `I Need You Tonight' rip off. there's a lot of things that are wrong with this song and with WBTM but female vocalists aren't one of them. Each to their own. I liked it when Noel first started using them on songs like The Right Stuff, and on some of the tracks on WBTM, but I'm growing tired of it now. I yearn for the crazy, off-his-head rocker who went hell-for-leather during 1996 and 1997, writing ridiculously upbeat, fast songs like Some Might Say, The Fame, I Hope I Think I Know and Stay Young. Holy Mountain somehow managed to capture the essence of those glory years, and I just wish he'd do more of those kind of songs. I realise I'm probably in the minority with that opinion now. |
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Post by Marissa on May 3, 2019 14:30:46 GMT -5
there's a lot of things that are wrong with this song and with WBTM but female vocalists aren't one of them. Each to their own. I liked it when Noel first started using them on songs like The Right Stuff, and on some of the tracks on WBTM, but I'm growing tired of it now. I yearn for the crazy, off-his-head rocker who went hell-for-leather during 1996 and 1997, writing ridiculously upbeat, fast songs like Some Might Say, The Fame, I Hope I Think I Know and Stay Young. Holy Mountain somehow managed to capture the essence of those glory years, and I just wish he'd do more of those kind of songs. I realise I'm probably in the minority with that opinion now. noel is a crusty old man. we're lucky he brought in some women so that his band isn't entirely filled of crusty old men. it's the only good artistic choice he's made in the last couple of years |
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Post by smash on May 3, 2019 15:13:42 GMT -5
I know the hardcore Oasis fans (us) are split, but I was curious what the larger populace thinks. I found it almost entirely negative, mixed with apathy. On the Radio X FB page and Noel’s own page, the vast majority of the comments are negative. It was interesting how few people even commented and liked the postings actually - not many.
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Post by Deleted on May 3, 2019 15:17:46 GMT -5
I know the hardcore Oasis fans (us) are split, but I was curious what the larger populace thinks. I found it almost entirely negative, mixed with apathy. On the Radio X FB page and Noel’s own page, the vast majority of the comments are negative. It was interesting how few people even commented and liked the postings actually - not many. The very few around me who've heard it have been pretty well indifferent. That said, they usually are towards Noel's music. So that isn't anything new to me. |
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Post by yogurt on May 3, 2019 15:36:18 GMT -5
I know the hardcore Oasis fans (us) are split, but I was curious what the larger populace thinks. I found it almost entirely negative, mixed with apathy. On the Radio X FB page and Noel’s own page, the vast majority of the comments are negative. It was interesting how few people even commented and liked the postings actually - not many. It's because his music is pretty bland really. Fans will always rate it differently because of familiarity with the artist and some sort of emotional involvement but if you look at his solo music objectively, it's hardly going to grab people. Especially his latest offerings, you would even say there is a great song in there. Liam's solo stuff may have been very generic and obvious for a Liam record, but you can still hear a song like For What It's Worth and understand why people would really enjoy the song, if you're not overly bothered about artists pushing the boat out and just want to hear a decent solid song. I like the fact Noel tries to go in different directions, i just find his current songwriting to be very weak for the most part, by his own standards. You can experiment AND have good songs. People seem to be giving him a pass for his weak songs and give him praise because he isn't following the same formula. Fine, but plenty of writers go in all sorts of directions while maintaining a high quality of writing. His last album barely registered outside of his hardcore fan base. That's not because it was "different" because it wasn't even that experimental or anything. It was simply because it lacked strong songs. |
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Post by The Escapist on May 3, 2019 15:43:43 GMT -5
I couldn't be less interested in what people on the Radio X Facebook page think about new music, to be honest.
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Post by captainsoul on May 3, 2019 15:52:16 GMT -5
Nothing special. 5.
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Post by World71R on May 3, 2019 16:02:44 GMT -5
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Post by matt on May 3, 2019 17:09:25 GMT -5
I couldn't be less interested in what people on the Radio X Facebook page think about new music, to be honest. “Check out the new Miles Kane record, the sound of the summer...’ |
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Post by garys on May 3, 2019 17:15:26 GMT -5
Wow, Noel doing guest vocals for Abba.
Rubbish
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Post by bt95 on May 3, 2019 18:00:48 GMT -5
I know the hardcore Oasis fans (us) are split, but I was curious what the larger populace thinks. I found it almost entirely negative, mixed with apathy. On the Radio X FB page and Noel’s own page, the vast majority of the comments are negative. It was interesting how few people even commented and liked the postings actually - not many. It's because his music is pretty bland really. Fans will always rate it differently because of familiarity with the artist and some sort of emotional involvement but if you look at his solo music objectively, it's hardly going to grab people. Especially his latest offerings, you would even say there is a great song in there. Liam's solo stuff may have been very generic and obvious for a Liam record, but you can still hear a song like For What It's Worth and understand why people would really enjoy the song, if you're not overly bothered about artists pushing the boat out and just want to hear a decent solid song. I like the fact Noel tries to go in different directions, i just find his current songwriting to be very weak for the most part, by his own standards. You can experiment AND have good songs. People seem to be giving him a pass for his weak songs and give him praise because he isn't following the same formula. Fine, but plenty of writers go in all sorts of directions while maintaining a high quality of writing. His last album barely registered outside of his hardcore fan base. That's not because it was "different" because it wasn't even that experimental or anything. It was simply because it lacked strong songs. What songs are weak, though? Fort Knox isn't. Holy Mountain certainly isn't. She Taught Me How To Fly isn't. It's A Beautiful World has one of the most soaring choruses he's written in years. DITW could have been released as a b-side and on the Masterplan, let's be honest. His last album got to number 1. And the singles off it 'registered outside of hardcore fanbases' just as much as the singles off Chasing Yesterday did. Holy Mountain will be as familiar to people now as Heat of the Moment was by late 2015, or as The Death Of You And Me was by 2012. Also, by the time last summer had rolled around and he was playing festivals - casuals crowds - the new stuff all went down really well. I've said it before but the Tramlines gig I went to in July is by far the best Noel has been live, and anything but bland. |
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Post by bt95 on May 3, 2019 18:06:20 GMT -5
I was annoyed with the way there wasn't another run through the chorus after the solo and with the repetition of "Nature is dancing..." bit at the end so I whipped up this edit. Check it out: Really like that mate! |
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Post by eva on May 3, 2019 18:28:10 GMT -5
I was annoyed with the way there wasn't another run through the chorus after the solo and with the repetition of "Nature is dancing..." bit at the end so I whipped up this edit. Check it out: sorry mate, I had to delete that link. try using some website that's stremaing only, no download links. I doubt youtube will allow it but maybe clyp.it or something like that |
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Post by neila83 on May 3, 2019 18:29:57 GMT -5
Well at least everyone seems to believe it's Noel writing them now!
When WBTM was released a large part of this forum insisted it was basically a David Homes album. Now they complain this has the same sound, even though it's an entirely Noel production.
For me it's better than a few songs on WBTM, but especially B&WS. That's what we'll get if Noel tries to recreate past glories. Dull. I don't really understand the point of that song, it just exists. Noels trying to go forward and gives us a sub-par Stones pastiche?
I would far rather an album in the style of Black Star dancing than Dead in the water too. As a one off great. An album like that? Shoot me. I have a thousand of that song in my playlist already thank you.
At least what Noel is producing now has energy. It's music you can put on and have a drink and feel a bit revved up. It's been a loooong time since we got that. In that context Fort knox is the best thing either Gallagher did since...be here now (album)?
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Post by spaneli on May 3, 2019 18:49:09 GMT -5
I couldn't be less interested in what people on the Radio X Facebook page think about new music, to be honest. THIS! |
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Post by spaneli on May 3, 2019 18:52:59 GMT -5
I really don't think Noel cares at this point what x person thinks about his music.
So why should you?
I like it. If you don't, you don't.
Noel has finally figured out that he pretty much has a sales floor. He'll probably not go beneath a certain amount of sales no matter what he releases. Same with touring.
So he's going to release what he wants.
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Post by theone on May 3, 2019 18:53:01 GMT -5
I love the sound of this! The lyrics are decent but man the beat is so good.
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Post by matt on May 3, 2019 19:16:44 GMT -5
Wow, Noel doing guest vocals for Abba. Rubbish Absolutely loving the irony of Beady Eye fans using ABBA as an insult for poor taste. |
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Post by mkoasis on May 3, 2019 21:15:28 GMT -5
Now that I’ve had a good bit of time to listen to it, I can provide a more thoughtful response.
For what it’s worth, I loved what Noel tried to accomplish with the last album. So I’m not against him going in new directions or stretching himself out further. But my initial reaction was: oh this is a lot more of a stretch than I’d imagined it would be. It does sound like something you’d hear in a trendy coffee house or lounge bar. I think it sounds like New Order and the BeeGees together, among bits of other things.
I think the verses work a lot better than the chorus. Of course a song doesn’t have to have a chorus but this one’s just isn’t that satisfying. Feels like it’s added out of necessity or something.
I really like the dirty sounding guitar solo that comes out of nowhere. Someone here said it sounds like it’s Paul Stacey playing and I’d agree with that. It has a certain wildness that the STC solo does on the first HFB album.
I wasn’t that big of a fan of Holy Mountain. Didn’t dislike it, I got it’s appeal but just didn’t care for it too much, giving it a 6. I don’t mind it now but I wouldn’t give it more than 6.5.
This one’s a 5 at the moment. Has neat parts but isn’t really a strong song like many others. I’m curious to hear it live.
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Post by World71R on May 3, 2019 21:49:05 GMT -5
I was annoyed with the way there wasn't another run through the chorus after the solo and with the repetition of "Nature is dancing..." bit at the end so I whipped up this edit. Check it out: sorry mate, I had to delete that link. try using some website that's stremaing only, no download links. I doubt youtube will allow it but maybe clyp.it or something like that Got it! I will try clyp.it |
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Post by bringmethemonkey on May 4, 2019 0:04:35 GMT -5
This might be a der thing to say but is the song title a call back to David Bowie’s final album?
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Post by themanwithnoname on May 4, 2019 2:22:23 GMT -5
Wow, Noel doing guest vocals for Abba. Rubbish Absolutely loving the irony of Beady Eye fans using ABBA as an insult for poor taste. It would be interesting to see reactions if it had been Noel rather than Liam/Beady Eye who released the likes of Flick of the Finger or even Wall of Glass. |
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Post by Deleted on May 4, 2019 4:33:25 GMT -5
I’m curious to hear it live. I'm not. The sets at the Smashing Pumpkins shows are going to be short enough as it is and this song will take the place of another HFB song or an Oasis classic I actually want to hear. Now, a song like To Be Where There's Life sounded 1,000 times better live than it did on the record, but in that instance there was an actual tune existing under Sardy's horrid production to work with. Best case scenario is it will be played during the pre-gig music before he goes on, but that's wishful thinking. |
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