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Post by Bonehead's Barber on Jun 18, 2019 15:55:32 GMT -5
Fucking LOL at people who have a problem with Antifa. Imagine thinking it was bad to kick fuck out of racists. It's not good to kick the fuck out of anyone. Full stop. Yeh, if you're gonna start, then racists are as good a place as any. But violence achieves nothing except more violence. So yeh, I have a problem if an organisation supports violence. I don't care how righteous they think they are. Kicking fuck out of racists isn't bad. Being racist is bad.
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Post by bt95 on Jun 18, 2019 16:06:48 GMT -5
It's not good to kick the fuck out of anyone. Full stop. Yeh, if you're gonna start, then racists are as good a place as any. But violence achieves nothing except more violence. So yeh, I have a problem if an organisation supports violence. I don't care how righteous they think they are. Kicking fuck out of racists isn't bad. Being racist is bad.Again, literally nobody is disagreeing. If they do, they're racist. I just don't like anyone having to be kicked the fuck out of in the first place. I also don't think it solves any problems. In fact, it just makes it worse. The left is meant to be better, so be better. Find a better way than resorting to violence.
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Post by Nyron Nosworthy on Jul 1, 2019 6:23:26 GMT -5
Can't believe anybody is seriously advocating 'kicking the fuck' out of anybody. That is mental.
Attitudes like that do far more harm than good.
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Post by rickypaglais on Jul 1, 2019 16:16:19 GMT -5
It's not good to kick the fuck out of anyone. Full stop. Yeh, if you're gonna start, then racists are as good a place as any. But violence achieves nothing except more violence. So yeh, I have a problem if an organisation supports violence. I don't care how righteous they think they are. Kicking fuck out of racists isn't bad. Being racist is bad. Can a mod or whoever is deleting my posts please explain why I am not allowed to call someone who is advocating "kicking the fuck out of" someone a fascist idiot, yet the original post is allowed to stand? Thanks
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Post by rickypaglais on Jul 1, 2019 16:24:54 GMT -5
Sorry but to only compare the murder of Jo Cox to a milkshake being thrown is completely dismissing all the violence of Antifa and the like. The left have shown on many occasions all around the world how violent they get. But it is often dismissed as activism when they do it. Agree with most of your points about the referendum but let's not gloss over the awfulness of the left and their protests. Reminder that literally everyone should be willing to use violence to stop fascism. You're a self-professed Communist, an ideology which has killed 100 million+ people. You're dangerous
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Post by Bonehead's Barber on Jul 1, 2019 16:41:22 GMT -5
Kicking fuck out of racists isn't bad. Being racist is bad. Can a mod or whoever is deleting my posts please explain why I am not allowed to call someone who is advocating "kicking the fuck out of" someone a fascist idiot, yet the original post is allowed to stand? Thanks Didn't realising kicking fuck out of fascist idiots made me a fascist idiot.
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Post by rickypaglais on Jul 1, 2019 16:52:35 GMT -5
Can a mod or whoever is deleting my posts please explain why I am not allowed to call someone who is advocating "kicking the fuck out of" someone a fascist idiot, yet the original post is allowed to stand? Thanks Didn't realising kicking fuck out of fascist idiots made me a fascist idiot. Kicking the fuck out of anyone is an absolute twat move. How much of a cretin must you be to advocate violence against someone because their political leaning? You're advocating violence against racists right? What about my grandma who would now be 91, born in the fucking 1920s. She never harmed a fly. But she often had trepidation with regards to darker skinned people. Never did or said anything bad to them, but was always wary. There's no denying that's a racist approach. Are you suggesting people should have kicked the fuck out of her?
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Post by Crazy Joe Davola on Jul 1, 2019 17:00:58 GMT -5
Didn't realising kicking fuck out of fascist idiots made me a fascist idiot. Kicking the fuck out of anyone is an absolute twat move. How much of a cretin must you be to advocate violence against someone because their political leaning? You're advocating violence against racists right? What about my grandma who would now be 91, born in the fucking 1920s. She never harmed a fly. But she often had trepidation with regards to darker skinned people. Never did or said anything bad to them, but was always wary. There's no denying that's a racist approach. Are you suggesting people should have kicked the fuck out of her? No, she didn't deserve to be harmed, but she was a racist bigot.....she might deserve some criticism, though. A lot of older people are out of touch....more open-minded, less ignorant thinking is on the rise. God bless.
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Post by rickypaglais on Jul 1, 2019 17:05:37 GMT -5
Kicking the fuck out of anyone is an absolute twat move. How much of a cretin must you be to advocate violence against someone because their political leaning? You're advocating violence against racists right? What about my grandma who would now be 91, born in the fucking 1920s. She never harmed a fly. But she often had trepidation with regards to darker skinned people. Never did or said anything bad to them, but was always wary. There's no denying that's a racist approach. Are you suggesting people should have kicked the fuck out of her? No, she didn't deserve to be harmed, she was just a racist bigot.....she might deserve some criticism, though. A lot of older people are out of touch....more open-minded, less ignorant thinking is on the rise. God bless. You're aware that in the century since she was born there has been an incredible shift in virtually every aspect of society, aren't you? What was embedded in society then is utterly alien from what it is now. I also hope you're aware that in a hundred years you'll also be considered a "racist bigot" for the views you hold right now. The norm shifts. Unless you're actively a twat to people, you're a product of the era. I'm sure everyone born in the 1920s thought the people born in the 1820s were racist bigots too.
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Post by Bonehead's Barber on Jul 1, 2019 17:07:58 GMT -5
Didn't realising kicking fuck out of fascist idiots made me a fascist idiot. Kicking the fuck out of anyone is an absolute twat move. How much of a cretin must you be to advocate violence against someone because their political leaning? You're advocating violence against racists right? What about my grandma who would now be 91, born in the fucking 1920s. She never harmed a fly. But she often had trepidation with regards to darker skinned people. Never did or said anything bad to them, but was always wary. There's no denying that's a racist approach. Are you suggesting people should have kicked the fuck out of her? Because I said 'let's start on the 91 year old grannies!' didn't I? Odd behaviour, thinking it is odd to want to twat a Nazi. Really strange. As a personal point of order, I have never battered anyone. Leftie, Rightie or central. However, if a Nazi hate preacher was getting the shit kicked out of him, I would not feel sorry for him. P.S. sorry your nan was a racist As you Were LGxx
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Post by rickypaglais on Jul 1, 2019 17:09:54 GMT -5
Kicking the fuck out of anyone is an absolute twat move. How much of a cretin must you be to advocate violence against someone because their political leaning? You're advocating violence against racists right? What about my grandma who would now be 91, born in the fucking 1920s. She never harmed a fly. But she often had trepidation with regards to darker skinned people. Never did or said anything bad to them, but was always wary. There's no denying that's a racist approach. Are you suggesting people should have kicked the fuck out of her? Because I said 'let's start on the 91 year old grannies!' didn't I? Odd behaviour, thinking it is odd to want to twat a Nazi. Really strange. As a personal point of order, I have never battered anyone. Leftie, Rightie or central. However, if a Nazi hate preacher was getting the shit kicked out of him, I would not feel sorry for him. P.S. sorry your nan was a racist As you Were LGxx No, you said kicking the fuck out of racists, not Nazis. Big difference - one is a committed ideology. Coincidentally my gran was part of the war effort against Nazi Germany, so I can guarantee she has done more to fight Nazism than someone who spouts absolute piss on an internet forum like you.
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Post by rickypaglais on Jul 1, 2019 17:10:53 GMT -5
You're a self-professed Communist, an ideology which has killed 100 million+ people. You're dangerous I'm an anarchist, actually, but thank you for the compliment. 2 years later, you still haven't told me how old you are and if you have a job. Care to do so now?
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Post by rickypaglais on Jul 1, 2019 17:12:29 GMT -5
No, you said kicking the fuck out of racists, not Nazis. Big difference - one is a committed ideology. Coincidentally my gran was part of the war effort against Nazi Germany, so I can guarantee she has done more to fight Nazism than someone who spouts absolute piss on an internet forum like you. Genuine question. I want you to answer this question very clearly. Why are you so against racists getting put in their place? I fully support racists being put in their place by debate and exposure to people of other races; education. I am strongly against anyone being violently assaulted. Surely you can get your mind around that?
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Post by The Escapist on Jul 1, 2019 17:12:41 GMT -5
I'm an anarchist, actually, but thank you for the compliment. 2 years later, you still haven't told me how old you are and if you have a job. Care to do so now? No, of course not. By the way, you're right about racists. No-one should be attacked for views they hold in the privacy of their own heads, as I mentioned earlier. I agree with you here. I'm also not a communist. Anarchism has a long and storied history of fighting communist oppression in the 20th century, which helps explain why Lenin was so hell-bent on killing us back in the day. Still, I do like to think of myself as keeping it dangerous, thanks.
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Post by rickypaglais on Jul 1, 2019 17:16:48 GMT -5
You're aware that in the century since she was born there has been an incredible shift in virtually every aspect of society, aren't you? What was embedded in society then is utterly alien from what it is now. I also hope you're aware that in a hundred years you'll also be considered a "racist bigot" for the views you hold right now. The norm shifts. Unless you're actively a twat to people, you're a product of the era. I'm sure everyone born in the 1920s thought the people born in the 1820s were racist bigots too. Yes, I'll be considered out of touch in 100 years, but, in many ways, I'm out of touch now.....I only got a cellphone a few years ago; I have a smart TV, but never used any of the smart features; I have no apps. But, in 100 years, I won't be considered a racist bigot. God bless. I can assure you that you'll be considered a bigot with antiquated views. As will everyone currently on planet earth. I cannot imagine being so far up my own arse to think I am flawless like that.
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Post by rickypaglais on Jul 1, 2019 17:18:04 GMT -5
I fully support racists being put in their place by debate and exposure to people of other races; education. I am strongly against anyone being violently assaulted. Surely you can get your mind around that? Listen pal. I'm going to be totally honest here and tell you that this was a wind up and I can't be arsed anymore. I dispise racists of any kind. I also do not agree with the act of violence. I can't be arsed keeping the pretense up. What a weird thing to do. A total waste of time Considering your original post was ages ago, I think you've actually just realised you're talking absolute bollocks.
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Post by Crazy Joe Davola on Jul 1, 2019 17:20:34 GMT -5
Yes, I'll be considered out of touch in 100 years, but, in many ways, I'm out of touch now.....I only got a cellphone a few years ago; I have a smart TV, but never used any of the smart features; I have no apps. But, in 100 years, I won't be considered a racist bigot. God bless. I can assure you that you'll be considered a bigot with antiquated views. As will everyone currently on planet earth. I cannot imagine being so far up my own arse to think I am flawless like that. I'm not intolerant towards those holding beliefs opposed to mine, how am I bigot? Thanks.
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Post by rickypaglais on Jul 1, 2019 17:24:08 GMT -5
What a weird thing to do. A total waste of time Considering your original post was ages ago, I think you've actually just realised you're talking absolute bollocks. Not at all. Posted something a while ago to get a bite, because I was bored. Worked. You're seething so much that you outed your 91 year old nan as a racist ffs A bite? No, shit for brains, I am quite rightly telling people that violence against anyone is a very dangerous and extremely childlike mentality. My gran is an example of how racism isn't always a deliberate and active thing; and why education and debate is the way to tackle it - not Antifa cretins assaulting people, like you suggested. I don't believe you're so thick to not get your head around this, but I do believe you're either a sad troll or a danger. Probably still the latter
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Post by rickypaglais on Jul 1, 2019 17:25:41 GMT -5
I can assure you that you'll be considered a bigot with antiquated views. As will everyone currently on planet earth. I cannot imagine being so far up my own arse to think I am flawless like that. I'm not intolerant towards those holding beliefs opposed to mine, how am I bigot? Thanks. Because in a century's time there will be beliefs that you will not be tolerant of. You don't know what they are because they probably haven't formed yet. It happens. Society changes and evolves.
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Post by Bonehead's Barber on Jul 1, 2019 17:26:54 GMT -5
Not at all. Posted something a while ago to get a bite, because I was bored. Worked. You're seething so much that you outed your 91 year old nan as a racist ffs A bite? No, shit for brains, I am quite rightly telling people that violence against anyone is a very dangerous and extremely childlike mentality. My gran is an example of how racism isn't always a deliberate and active thing; and why education and debate is the way to tackle it - not Antifa cretins assaulting people, like you suggested. I don't believe you're so thick to not get your head around this, but I do believe you're either a sad troll or a danger. Probably still the latter I apologise for any upset caused. Just a wind up gone out of hand, as mentioned earlier. My views on politics, though absolutely none of your business, are very similar to yours. Let's move on with our lives now, yeah?!
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Post by rickypaglais on Jul 1, 2019 17:28:14 GMT -5
A bite? No, shit for brains, I am quite rightly telling people that violence against anyone is a very dangerous and extremely childlike mentality. My gran is an example of how racism isn't always a deliberate and active thing; and why education and debate is the way to tackle it - not Antifa cretins assaulting people, like you suggested. I don't believe you're so thick to not get your head around this, but I do believe you're either a sad troll or a danger. Probably still the latter I apologise for any upset caused. Just a wind up gone out of hand, as mentioned earlier. My views on politics, though absolutely none of your business, are very similar to yours. Let's move on with our lives now, yeah?! Fine, I apologise for any insults - shouldn't have done.
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Post by Crazy Joe Davola on Jul 1, 2019 17:29:51 GMT -5
I'm not intolerant towards those holding beliefs opposed to mine, how am I bigot? Thanks. Because in a century's time there will be beliefs that you will not be tolerant of. You don't know what they are because they probably haven't formed yet. It happens. Society changes and evolves. In a century, hopefully cats are worshipped again..... You should breed a lot....we need more intelligence in the world. God bless.
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Post by Bonehead's Barber on Jul 1, 2019 17:30:02 GMT -5
I apologise for any upset caused. Just a wind up gone out of hand, as mentioned earlier. My views on politics, though absolutely none of your business, are very similar to yours. Let's move on with our lives now, yeah?! Fine, I apologise for any insults - shouldn't have done. No I would be the same as you, calling someone who expressed the views I was expressing a fucking wanker.
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Post by rickypaglais on Jul 1, 2019 17:32:39 GMT -5
Fine, I apologise for any insults - shouldn't have done. No I would be the same as you, calling someone who expressed the views I was expressing a fucking wanker. Well if it was a wind up, I am flopping around on the end of your hook. Bed for me, night mate
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Post by jeffrey on Jul 2, 2019 9:19:17 GMT -5
I’ve read through the thread. I know very little about Brexit and the state of things in the U.K. as I’m from the U.S. Therefore, I’ll base my thoughts around things here.
Politicians are funded by lobbyists who, in turn, require those politicians to vote in favor of giant companies — not for the common person — furthering dissent/disbelief in the system. More so, forcing people to adhere fully to the label of left or right is very dangerous (self-fulfilling prophecy) due to extreme media misinformation/bias. The masses are being subjugated through sensationalism and now believe that conservatives and liberals cannot coexist which is causing quite abhorrent behavior from both sides over here.
If someone honestly believes that their entire structure of thought is perfect and others with different views are wholly wrong, they’re delusional. We’re humans. Our thoughts/opinions are shaped by who/what we’re surrounded by, for better or worse. Yes, we can continue to learn and reshape those thoughts by listening to intelligent/educated thoughts from EVERYONE, but you have to be open. If people refuse to listen/learn, they’re a part of the problem.
Partisan politics is an antiquated concept that should be abolished, in my opinion. I have zero faith in the current construction of our government, so in full candor, I’ll admit that I refuse to vote. And that’s because voting for/against someone/something I don’t believe in is counterproductive to my personal belief system.
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