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Post by Gas Panic on Mar 27, 2018 3:36:30 GMT -5
I'm Outta Time - little more than a rehase of Little James musically to my ears. Wonderwall - just because it's so overplayed Don't Look Back In Anger - same as above Morning Glory - Fun for the first half, second half just rehases the first and adds nothing. All buid-up no substance. Album would be better without it Cigarettes & Alcohol - famous for the one line, nowhere near good enough for a single and by far and away one of the 3 worst songs on Definitely Maybe Go Let It Out - nowhere near the tune everyone makes it out to be. It's ok for sure but it just does not go anywhere. Lyrics are not exactly brilliant either Wow about Morning Glory! I don't think I've ever heard anyone say the album would be better without it. That argument could be made on BHN with the title track. C&A I think was released as a single because it worked perfectly to get across the rock star image that Noel and the management was trying communicate at the time. It's probably THE tune that captures the spirit of DM for me. Even though clearly it isn't the best song. So in that sense it is a smart single. GLIO - I agree. Massively overrated by Noel and fans. |
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Post by supernovadragon on Mar 27, 2018 6:11:11 GMT -5
I'm Outta Time - little more than a rehase of Little James musically to my ears. Wonderwall - just because it's so overplayed Don't Look Back In Anger - same as above Morning Glory - Fun for the first half, second half just rehases the first and adds nothing. All buid-up no substance. Album would be better without it Cigarettes & Alcohol - famous for the one line, nowhere near good enough for a single and by far and away one of the 3 worst songs on Definitely Maybe Go Let It Out - nowhere near the tune everyone makes it out to be. It's ok for sure but it just does not go anywhere. Lyrics are not exactly brilliant either Wow about Morning Glory! I don't think I've ever heard anyone say the album would be better without it. That argument could be made on BHN with the title track. C&A I think was released as a single because it worked perfectly to get across the rock star image that Noel and the management was trying communicate at the time. It's probably THE tune that captures the spirit of DM for me. Even though clearly it isn't the best song. So in that sense it is a smart single. GLIO - I agree. Massively overrated by Noel and fans. I just get so bored by Morning Glory. Everybody raves about it, talks about it being a brilliant song when, in reality, it's the same song twice and the second time it's boring. As for Cigarettes & Alcohol, if that's the image they wanted, Bring It On Down would have worked just as well and it's a massively better song. The whole track, Cigarettes & Alcohol that is, is poorly produced and is just boring and only there for one reason..that one lyric |
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Post by Aman on Mar 27, 2018 6:18:06 GMT -5
I like Listen Up, but it's not a great song for me like others think.
It goes on for way too long, no need to be 6 mins odd long.
And it's just a rehash all the way through, and then loops again?! Wtf. You can see why it never made the album.
The one verse and the chorus is admittedly good, but the song goes on and on saying the same thing over and over.
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Post by Aman on Mar 27, 2018 6:21:43 GMT -5
Wow about Morning Glory! I don't think I've ever heard anyone say the album would be better without it. That argument could be made on BHN with the title track. C&A I think was released as a single because it worked perfectly to get across the rock star image that Noel and the management was trying communicate at the time. It's probably THE tune that captures the spirit of DM for me. Even though clearly it isn't the best song. So in that sense it is a smart single. GLIO - I agree. Massively overrated by Noel and fans. I just get so bored by Morning Glory. Everybody raves about it, talks about it being a brilliant song when, in reality, it's the same song twice and the second time it's boring. As for Cigarettes & Alcohol, if that's the image they wanted, Bring It On Down would have worked just as well and it's a massively better song. The whole track, Cigarettes & Alcohol that is, is poorly produced and is just boring and only there for one reason..that one lyric Morning Glory isn't the only culprit of that. Rock n Roll Star, Cast No Shadow and Listen Up are also same songs twice. |
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Post by Aman on Mar 27, 2018 6:24:21 GMT -5
I mean people slag off Hey Now, but at least that song has substance to it with 2 good verses.
Can't be said for some more "popular" Oasis songs.
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Post by crisppacket on Mar 27, 2018 6:36:44 GMT -5
Morning glory is a great live song, you can see how hyped up people get when it's played at the beginning of Liam's gig.
Sets up the rest of it nicely.
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Post by guigsysEstring on Mar 27, 2018 10:00:44 GMT -5
I just get so bored by Morning Glory. Everybody raves about it, talks about it being a brilliant song when, in reality, it's the same song twice and the second time it's boring. This. It does the job live but to be honest I don't find it a great song to listen to on record, and as Alan McGee was once quoted as saying (in the 'My Magpies Eyes....biography IIRC) it's lucky Michael Stipe wasn't the type to sue over IMO a far superior song- |
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Post by guigsysEstring on Mar 27, 2018 10:02:47 GMT -5
I mean people slag off Hey Now, but at least that song has substance to it with 2 good verses. Can't be said for some more "popular" Oasis songs. One of the best Neil Young songs that 'Shakey' didn't actually write  |
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Post by Aman on Mar 27, 2018 10:14:26 GMT -5
I just get so bored by Morning Glory. Everybody raves about it, talks about it being a brilliant song when, in reality, it's the same song twice and the second time it's boring. This. It does the job live but to be honest I don't find it a great song to listen to on record, and as Alan McGee was once quoted as saying (in the 'My Magpies Eyes....biography IIRC) it's lucky Michael Stipe wasn't the type to sue over IMO a far superior song- Think REM ripped The One I Love from some other band too. (Forget who) Probably why he never sued lol. |
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Post by Spaceman on Mar 27, 2018 10:17:59 GMT -5
Youse are all off yer fuckin rockers tbh
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Post by guigsysEstring on Mar 27, 2018 13:45:21 GMT -5
What's the word for ripping off yourself? Lazy? Stand By Me is Married with Children on the verses. Two words actually- Lawsuit proof |
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Post by supernovadragon on Mar 27, 2018 13:45:59 GMT -5
I just get so bored by Morning Glory. Everybody raves about it, talks about it being a brilliant song when, in reality, it's the same song twice and the second time it's boring. This. It does the job live but to be honest I don't find it a great song to listen to on record, and as Alan McGee was once quoted as saying (in the 'My Magpies Eyes....biography IIRC) it's lucky Michael Stipe wasn't the type to sue over IMO a far superior song- Thank you, at last someone agrees with me |
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Post by Aman on Mar 27, 2018 14:25:57 GMT -5
Morning Glory sounds pretty great on record tbf.
That opening, the guitar solo, the opening Liam line.
Yeah it's a rehash but I think it gets away with it cos it's such a strong verse and chorus.
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Post by Beady’s Here Now on Mar 27, 2018 18:15:29 GMT -5
Wow about Morning Glory! I don't think I've ever heard anyone say the album would be better without it. That argument could be made on BHN with the title track. C&A I think was released as a single because it worked perfectly to get across the rock star image that Noel and the management was trying communicate at the time. It's probably THE tune that captures the spirit of DM for me. Even though clearly it isn't the best song. So in that sense it is a smart single. GLIO - I agree. Massively overrated by Noel and fans. I just get so bored by Morning Glory. Everybody raves about it, talks about it being a brilliant song when, in reality, it's the same song twice and the second time it's boring. As for Cigarettes & Alcohol, if that's the image they wanted, Bring It On Down would have worked just as well and it's a massively better song. The whole track, Cigarettes & Alcohol that is, is poorly produced and is just boring and only there for one reason..that one lyric Do you think the same about the most excellent Cast No Shadow? It, too, is the same song twice. Noel has a real tendancy of using that structure. |
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Post by Spaceman on Mar 27, 2018 18:26:26 GMT -5
I just get so bored by Morning Glory. Everybody raves about it, talks about it being a brilliant song when, in reality, it's the same song twice and the second time it's boring. As for Cigarettes & Alcohol, if that's the image they wanted, Bring It On Down would have worked just as well and it's a massively better song. The whole track, Cigarettes & Alcohol that is, is poorly produced and is just boring and only there for one reason..that one lyric Do you think the same about the most excellent Cast No Shadow? It, too, is the same song twice. Noel has a real tendancy of using that structure.Exactly, to me that's so commonplace in oasis songs that it's hard to consider it as a valid complaint tbh |
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Post by Aman on Mar 27, 2018 18:32:43 GMT -5
There's not that many tbh.
Rock n Roll Star
Listen Up
Morning Glory
Cast No Shadow
Maybe I'm missing a few?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 27, 2018 18:35:11 GMT -5
Don't care if a song has two repeated verses, lyrically wise. Cast No Shadow has 3 parts (4 with the little instrumental bit actually), all excellent and fitting together. Fuckin' great song.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 27, 2018 18:37:18 GMT -5
I mean people slag off Hey Now, but at least that song has substance to it with 2 good verses. Can't be said for some more "popular" Oasis songs. One of the best Neil Young songs that 'Shakey' didn't actually write I hear a strong Stone Roses influence on that one too. |
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Post by Aman on Mar 27, 2018 18:38:38 GMT -5
But I do think that's probably the reason why those 4 songs in particular aren't high on my all time favourite Oasis songs.
It's lazy really.
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Post by madferitusa2025 on Mar 27, 2018 21:31:56 GMT -5
Youse are all off yer fuckin rockers tbh Off yer rockers indeed. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 27, 2018 21:55:49 GMT -5
Some might say
Live Forever
Am I doing it right?
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Post by supernovadragon on Mar 28, 2018 1:49:36 GMT -5
I just get so bored by Morning Glory. Everybody raves about it, talks about it being a brilliant song when, in reality, it's the same song twice and the second time it's boring. As for Cigarettes & Alcohol, if that's the image they wanted, Bring It On Down would have worked just as well and it's a massively better song. The whole track, Cigarettes & Alcohol that is, is poorly produced and is just boring and only there for one reason..that one lyric Do you think the same about the most excellent Cast No Shadow? It, too, is the same song twice. Noel has a real tendancy of using that structure. If I am honest, I find Cast No Shadow slightly boring and can't remember when I last listened to it. It's not as over-hyped about like Morning Glory but it's still not brilliant |
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Post by crisppacket on Jul 27, 2018 12:09:34 GMT -5
Acquiesce is probs the most overrated amongst the fans. Only hyped up because it’s like Liam and Noel are singing to each other or whatever, but it’s boring and it drags. Deserved to be a b-side and nothing more.
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Post by anothergreatdivide on Jul 29, 2018 23:25:23 GMT -5
Cigarettes and Alcohol
Whatever
Wonderwall
She's Electric
Don't Go Away
Lyla
If I Had a Gun
Flick of the Finger
Greedy Soul
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Post by Binary Sunset on Jul 29, 2018 23:57:06 GMT -5
Importance of Being Idle
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