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Post by Headmaster on May 21, 2018 17:37:37 GMT -5
Star Treatment is great I must say.
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Post by The Escapist on May 21, 2018 17:58:06 GMT -5
Don't know why anyone pays him any attention, to be honest. But then the whole YouTubers thing goes right over my head. I only go on there to watch music videos, or clips of movies/TV shows, or footage from gigs. I don't want to watch people play games, or to see how they first reacted to a new song or trailer for a film. I'm not saying I've got it right and everyone who watches those things has it wrong; I just can't find it within myself to be arsed about what anyone who is not a media personality or "expert" in some way has to say about culture, when I'm on the internet. I think with music review it's just about liking their personality and respecting their insight into music - Fantano is the biggest because people like him, he's extremely knowledgeable, and explains his opinions thoroughly. Similar with people like Shawn Cee's reaction videos or the brilliant Dead End Hip Hop crew. I know that whenever a hip-hop album comes out these days, I'm always interested in Fantano and Myke C-Town's opinions, for instance. I'm not the biggest fan of gamer youtubers but I do like some - NerdCubed says it's essentially a comedic duo where the game is the straight-man, and I think that explains it's appeal well. |
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Post by Ebby Calvin 'Nuke' LaLoosh on May 21, 2018 18:07:33 GMT -5
¿Why can't there be songs as immediate, classic and timeless as something like 'Wonderwall' anymore?
I haven't even heard the new Arctic Monkeys album yet; I haven't it in on 'hold' at the library, but the reception of their new album tells me there's nothing like that on it; not that I was expecting that from the Arctic Monkeys, I only like a few of their songs but they're one of the most relevant bands right now...
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Post by Beady’s Here Now on May 21, 2018 18:21:39 GMT -5
I only like a few of their songs but they're now just became quite irrelevant... Thanks, FIFY |
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Post by Headmaster on May 21, 2018 19:04:14 GMT -5
¿Why can't there be songs as immediate, classic and timeless as something like 'Wonderwall' anymore? I could write a wall of text on this subject, but the slow decline of Radio and the rise of Internet can explain this. Bands before internet only had radio and MTV, so they had to write memorable songs to get some attention, even experimental bands like Pink Floyd wrote some catch songs, however nowadays with internet bands don't need to write memorable singles (another thing which is dying) anymore, they know internet will do the job promoting themselves. |
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Post by The Escapist on May 21, 2018 19:11:01 GMT -5
¿Why can't there be songs as immediate, classic and timeless as something like 'Wonderwall' anymore? I could write a wall of text on this subject, but the slow decline of Radio and the rise of Internet can explain this. Bands before internet only had radio and MTV, so they had to write memorable songs to get some attention, even experimental bands like Pink Floyd wrote some catch songs, however nowadays with internet bands don't need to write memorable singles (another thing which is dying) anymore, they know internet will do the job promoting themselves. The memorable singles of today are NOT being made by bands. |
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Post by Ebby Calvin 'Nuke' LaLoosh on May 21, 2018 19:20:45 GMT -5
¿Why can't there be songs as immediate, classic and timeless as something like 'Wonderwall' anymore? I could write a wall of text on this subject, but the slow decline of Radio and the rise of Internet can explain this. Bands before internet only had radio and MTV, so they had to write memorable songs to get some attention, even experimental bands like Pink Floyd wrote some catch songs, however nowadays with internet bands don't need to write memorable singles (another thing which is dying) anymore, they know internet will do the job promoting themselves. I honestly can't think of the last great song that'll be played on the radio in 50 years.......maybe 'Seven Nation Army' by the White Stripes? And, the White Stripes don't have the catalog to be considered classic. Thanks. |
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Post by Headmaster on May 21, 2018 23:11:10 GMT -5
I could write a wall of text on this subject, but the slow decline of Radio and the rise of Internet can explain this. Bands before internet only had radio and MTV, so they had to write memorable songs to get some attention, even experimental bands like Pink Floyd wrote some catch songs, however nowadays with internet bands don't need to write memorable singles (another thing which is dying) anymore, they know internet will do the job promoting themselves. The memorable singles of today are NOT being made by bands. Which is a shame, on those times it didn't matter the genre: rap, hip hop, soul, eletronica, pop, bands, solo, group, many different artists... and also rock bands (a lot by the way) used to battle with each other for a place in the sun. |
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Post by Headmaster on May 21, 2018 23:12:45 GMT -5
I could write a wall of text on this subject, but the slow decline of Radio and the rise of Internet can explain this. Bands before internet only had radio and MTV, so they had to write memorable songs to get some attention, even experimental bands like Pink Floyd wrote some catch songs, however nowadays with internet bands don't need to write memorable singles (another thing which is dying) anymore, they know internet will do the job promoting themselves. I honestly can't think of the last great song that'll be played on the radio in 50 years.......maybe 'Seven Nation Army' by the White Stripes? And, the White Stripes don't have the catalog to be considered classic. Thanks. Remember when rock bands used to write those blockbuster memorable songs like Wonderwall, Losing My Religion, Alive, Smells Like Teen Spirit, With Or Without You, Bohemian Rhapsody, Yellow, Boy's Don't Cry, Seven Nation Army, Every Breath You Take, Light My Fire, Creep,... you know, songs so big that they took on life on its own, sadly it's a thing of the past. Today we also have great rock bands, with great albums, but with less memorable songs. |
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Post by oasisserbia on May 22, 2018 1:06:51 GMT -5
¿Why can't there be songs as immediate, classic and timeless as something like 'Wonderwall' anymore? I could write a wall of text on this subject, but the slow decline of Radio and the rise of Internet can explain this. Bands before internet only had radio and MTV, so they had to write memorable songs to get some attention, even experimental bands like Pink Floyd wrote some catch songs, however nowadays with internet bands don't need to write memorable singles (another thing which is dying) anymore, they know internet will do the job promoting themselves. Yeah, like they wasnt trying with songs like Four Out Of Five. |
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Post by lahaine on May 22, 2018 4:20:20 GMT -5
I took the opposite stance. I was never a big fan of Favorite Worst Nightmare (sounds like a mad sprint from the start) or Humbug (absolute sludge of a recording). So when Suck It and See came down the pipe it felt refreshing and measured. So many catchy tunes like Black Treacle, The Hellcat Spangled Shalala, Piledriver Waltz, Love is a Laserquest, Suck It and See and Thats When You're Young. I also feel like Don't Sit Down Because I Moved Your Chair was the type of song I wanted with the Josh Homme hookup but never came. Dark and sinister. Likewise I never bothered to give them a listen until Suck It & See - that was the first album of theirs I really enjoyed. I loved Alex’s stylistic shift in becoming a crooner, maturing from the young wide eyed primal singer who spat his vocals out. A transition album, one that was essential in leading them away from the original slap dash post-punk formula. That formula was great then but you can’t have them writing the same tunes as millionaires away from Sheffield. It would be the same old, same old with ever diminishing returns, sadly replicating Oasis. I’ve not actually bought this album yet but I’m very intrigued to hear it - the concept sounds like something out of Thunderbirds! I loved A.M., and even if I don’t like it, I’d still applaud an admirable failure over a bog standard lazy ho hum collection of songs. Although I’m not a massive fan, I really like this band and they’re a rarity in that their albums are still big events but they seem to be constantly refreshing themselves and ageing gracefully without looking backwards or to the mainstream for answers. For a guitar band from an era awash with landfill indie shite like The Enemy, Twisted Wheel, Razorlight, etc that’s especially rare. Been a massive fan of them since my Girlfriend at the time played me the Beneath the Broadwalk demo's around 2005 time, you could tell that band were going to be the type of band like The Jam, The Smiths, Stones Roses and Oasis were. I think their debut still holds up today (although the production is it's weakest point) as does FWN, throw in Leave Before the Lights Come On and Who The Fuck Are The Arctic Monkeys EP and a load of B-sides. You can see why they were hyped up as the next big band, and Turner was consider the new big rock star of his generation. But for me it was with Humbug that became a whole different beast, something a lot smarter and showed their more to them then indie tag. Sure it pissed of the laddie side of the fanbase and it did take until AM commercial performance to bring them a newer and younger fanbase (Teenage girls). But for me I think Humbug, SIAS (a massively underrated album imo), AM and now Tranquility Base Hotel & Casino will age a lot better then their earlier efforts. Throw in the two Last Shadow Puppet albums (both topped the U.K album charts) and his Submarine E.P. Turner is this generation's Damon Albarn and that Arctic Monkey's will be held up as one of the U.K's more interesting bands. I just love that they don't care if they upset part of the fanbase as long as they follow their muse. For that I respect them the most for. |
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Post by funhouse on May 22, 2018 5:12:41 GMT -5
Likewise I never bothered to give them a listen until Suck It & See - that was the first album of theirs I really enjoyed. I loved Alex’s stylistic shift in becoming a crooner, maturing from the young wide eyed primal singer who spat his vocals out. A transition album, one that was essential in leading them away from the original slap dash post-punk formula. That formula was great then but you can’t have them writing the same tunes as millionaires away from Sheffield. It would be the same old, same old with ever diminishing returns, sadly replicating Oasis. I’ve not actually bought this album yet but I’m very intrigued to hear it - the concept sounds like something out of Thunderbirds! I loved A.M., and even if I don’t like it, I’d still applaud an admirable failure over a bog standard lazy ho hum collection of songs. Although I’m not a massive fan, I really like this band and they’re a rarity in that their albums are still big events but they seem to be constantly refreshing themselves and ageing gracefully without looking backwards or to the mainstream for answers. For a guitar band from an era awash with landfill indie shite like The Enemy, Twisted Wheel, Razorlight, etc that’s especially rare. But for me I think Humbug, SIAS (a massively underrated album imo), AM and now Tranquility Base Hotel & Casino will age a lot better then their earlier efforts. I have a hard time imagining this. |
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Post by bt95 on May 22, 2018 7:32:22 GMT -5
Likewise I never bothered to give them a listen until Suck It & See - that was the first album of theirs I really enjoyed. I loved Alex’s stylistic shift in becoming a crooner, maturing from the young wide eyed primal singer who spat his vocals out. A transition album, one that was essential in leading them away from the original slap dash post-punk formula. That formula was great then but you can’t have them writing the same tunes as millionaires away from Sheffield. It would be the same old, same old with ever diminishing returns, sadly replicating Oasis. I’ve not actually bought this album yet but I’m very intrigued to hear it - the concept sounds like something out of Thunderbirds! I loved A.M., and even if I don’t like it, I’d still applaud an admirable failure over a bog standard lazy ho hum collection of songs. Although I’m not a massive fan, I really like this band and they’re a rarity in that their albums are still big events but they seem to be constantly refreshing themselves and ageing gracefully without looking backwards or to the mainstream for answers. For a guitar band from an era awash with landfill indie shite like The Enemy, Twisted Wheel, Razorlight, etc that’s especially rare. Been a massive fan of them since my Girlfriend at the time played me the Beneath the Broadwalk demo's around 2005 time, you could tell that band were going to be the type of band like The Jam, The Smiths, Stones Roses and Oasis were. I think their debut still holds up today (although the production is it's weakest point) as does FWN, throw in Leave Before the Lights Come On and Who The Fuck Are The Arctic Monkeys EP and a load of B-sides. You can see why they were hyped up as the next big band, and Turner was consider the new big rock star of his generation. But for me it was with Humbug that became a whole different beast, something a lot smarter and showed their more to them then indie tag. Sure it pissed of the laddie side of the fanbase and it did take until AM commercial performance to bring them a newer and younger fanbase (Teenage girls). But for me I think Humbug, SIAS (a massively underrated album imo), AM and now Tranquility Base Hotel & Casino will age a lot better then their earlier efforts. Throw in the two Last Shadow Puppet albums (both topped the U.K album charts) and his Submarine E.P. Turner is this generation's Damon Albarn and that Arctic Monkey's will be held up as one of the U.K's more interesting bands. I just love that they don't care if they upset part of the fanbase as long as they follow their muse. For that I respect them the most for. Got to say I don't agree with this. I like the singles off Humbug and most of the first half of SIAS, while AM was an album that catapulted the Monkeys to a different level. But their debut is a timeless classic. It won't age badly because it's got the songs, and if you're a young working class boy or girl in the UK, you will identify with that record without even trying. Songs like Mardy Bum, A Certain Romance, Sun Goes Down, Dancing Shoes, Fake Tales..., Dancefloor - they're classics in their own right. I'm glad the Monkeys have developed. I'm glad they've changed. But that first album is superb. Right up there with the best British debuts. Like all great albums, it captures a time and a place and a feeling, but also has that evergreen quality to it. Just like DefinitelyMaybe does, or The Stone Roses. |
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Post by theyknowwhatimean on May 22, 2018 11:39:43 GMT -5
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Post by theyknowwhatimean on May 22, 2018 12:21:53 GMT -5
For me. But it's the plump sack who painted it who should be embarrassed, really. I'm sure in a couple of years he'll reflect on it--maybe late one night when he's lying in bed, trying to get off to sleep--and he'll think, 'Did I really do that? Wow, what a massive bell-end I was'. I used to get upset by all of Britain's most famous musicians and actors buggering off to the States too. But that was when I was, like, ten or something. When you get older and go to college/uni or start working, and you're boarding crowded trains every day to watch grey landscapes go by, you realise it's not so marvellous in this country after all. The weather's shite and all the public services are crap. As is a lot of the food. And most of the shops. That small town thinking that would have it that if you're born in a place you should bloody well stay there forever until you die, whether you like it there or not, is dense and shortsighted. I'm not ashamed of the town I'm from, but believe me if I had Turner's money I'd be out of here like a shot! Penthouse in New York. Big old house in France. A little getaway somewhere tropical... |
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Post by Lennon2217 on May 22, 2018 12:22:05 GMT -5
I honestly can't think of the last great song that'll be played on the radio in 50 years.......maybe 'Seven Nation Army' by the White Stripes? And, the White Stripes don't have the catalog to be considered classic. Thanks. Remember when rock bands used to write those blockbuster memorable songs like Wonderwall, Losing My Religion, Alive, Smells Like Teen Spirit, With Or Without You, Bohemian Rhapsody, Yellow, Boy's Don't Cry, Seven Nation Army, Every Breath You Take, Light My Fire, Creep,... you know, songs so big that they took on life on its own, sadly it's a thing of the past. Today we also have great rock bands, with great albums, but with less memorable songs. Who are these “great rock bands” you speak of currently? |
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Post by funhouse on May 22, 2018 12:44:13 GMT -5
For me. But it's the plump sack who painted it who should be embarrassed, really. I'm sure in a couple of years he'll reflect on it--maybe late one night when he's lying in bed, trying to get off to sleep--and he'll think, 'Did I really do that? Wow, what a massive bell-end I was'. I used to get upset by all of Britain's most famous musicians and actors buggering off to the States too. But that was when I was, like, ten or something. When you get older and go to college/uni or start working, and you're boarding crowded trains every day to watch grey landscapes go by, you realise it's not so marvellous in this country after all. The weather's shite and all the public services are crap. As is a lot of the food. And most of the shops. That small town thinking that would have it that if you're born in a place you should bloody well stay there forever until you die, whether you like it there or not, is dense and shortsighted. I'm not ashamed of the town I'm from, but believe me if I had Turner's money I'd be out of here like a shot! Penthouse in New York. Big old house in France. A little getaway somewhere tropical... That reference to "Fake Tales of San Francisco" is simply not on point. In the song, he's taking a jab at posers and phonys who talk about California or the US as if they would live there, while some of them may never even have been there at all. It's the fakeness he was mocking, not that someone would want to live in the US. So this whole grafitti thing is based on a misconception. |
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Post by Headmaster on May 22, 2018 13:12:25 GMT -5
Remember when rock bands used to write those blockbuster memorable songs like Wonderwall, Losing My Religion, Alive, Smells Like Teen Spirit, With Or Without You, Bohemian Rhapsody, Yellow, Boy's Don't Cry, Seven Nation Army, Every Breath You Take, Light My Fire, Creep,... you know, songs so big that they took on life on its own, sadly it's a thing of the past. Today we also have great rock bands, with great albums, but with less memorable songs. Who are these “great rock bands” you speak of currently? Arcade Fire, Arctic Monkeys, Killers, Strokes, Queens of Stone Age... |
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Post by Lennon2217 on May 22, 2018 13:16:16 GMT -5
Who are these “great rock bands” you speak of currently? Arcade Fire, Arctic Monkeys, Killers, Strokes, Queens of Stone Age... Those dudes haven't been a good rock band since 2003ish. That was 15 years ago. |
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Post by seanrulesrh on May 22, 2018 13:47:17 GMT -5
Arcade Fire, Arctic Monkeys, Killers, Strokes, Queens of Stone Age... Those dudes haven't been a good rock band since 2003ish. That was 15 years ago. I liked the last record 'Comedown Machine'. Some good songs over there. But yes,they won't make an album like Is This It again. Foals is a great band and they will release an album this year,probably the latest great UK band. For real,check them out |
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Post by sirpsychosexy on May 22, 2018 14:13:14 GMT -5
New The Voidz album is amazing tho
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Post by matt on May 22, 2018 14:23:53 GMT -5
Those dudes haven't been a good rock band since 2003ish. That was 15 years ago. I liked the last record 'Comedown Machine'. Some good songs over there. But yes,they won't make an album like Is This It again. Foals is a great band and they will release an album this year,probably the latest great UK band. For real,check them out Fantastic live band too are Foals. |
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Post by Deleted on May 22, 2018 14:30:47 GMT -5
Arcade Fire, Arctic Monkeys, Killers, Strokes, Queens of Stone Age... Those dudes haven't been a good rock band since 2003ish. That was 15 years ago. Yeah but they have been during 2/3 years. That's still more than some bands on this list. |
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Post by The Escapist on May 22, 2018 15:57:53 GMT -5
Arcade Fire aren't really rock anymore either. The rock bands I still care about:
- The War on Drugs (even that is debatable, they have a lot in their sound)
- Car Seat Headrest
- The Smith Street Band
- The Twilight Sad
Rock music just isn't where it's at anymore, and that's cool. It's still there in relevant music, just as an influence rather than a template. Anyone got any good band suggestions?
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Post by Deleted on May 22, 2018 16:32:01 GMT -5
Arcade Fire aren't really rock anymore either. The rock bands I still care about: - The War on Drugs (even that is debatable, they have a lot in their sound) - Car Seat Headrest - The Smith Street Band - The Twilight Sad Rock music just isn't where it's at anymore, and that's cool. It's still there in relevant music, just as an influence rather than a template. Anyone got any good band suggestions? If you're Looking for new young bands/artists, QTY and Snail Mail (solo artist) are alright: Snail Mail releases her album on June 8th. |
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