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Post by bt95 on Oct 24, 2017 3:04:21 GMT -5
Holy Mountain in 2017 is not half as progessive as "Setting Sun" was in 1996. Still really dig it. Got a feeling, WBTM will be miles better than that boring adult rock album CY. ...and I'm a parka monkey. In fairness, Noel has shot down any suggestions at all this was progressive or experimental. The 'experimental' side of this album is how it was made imo, not in that it's going to open up new horizons of music. So people need to know what to expect. Noel's said that HM isn't experimental. It's just different for him. The album, likewise IMO, will be different because Noel has experimented with a different method of producing it.
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Post by Frank Lee Vulgar on Oct 24, 2017 3:22:31 GMT -5
^Same for David Holmes. The only things he said about the album were that it's up-tempo, fun, and rock n roll, not electro or anything. None of that reads like "experimental" to me. Maybe those first previews were a bit misleading.
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Post by thomaslivesforever on Oct 24, 2017 3:33:29 GMT -5
Don’t forget my own term..............Liam Zombies. If you see them at a gig run! I cop to buying quite a bit of Pretty Green gear, but my hair is very unfriendly to any and all mod hairstyles. Closest I can get to an Oasis haircut is completely unkempt (the Guigsy), or shaved completely (the Bonehead). Noel, Liam, and Gem got all the cool hair. I've got curly hair mate, its a curse.
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Post by Mean Mrs. Mustard on Oct 24, 2017 4:47:16 GMT -5
My younger brother has Coupe Noel. It's pretty much the only hairstyle that fits his gigantic head and his kind of hair.
He absolutely hates Oasis though.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 24, 2017 4:50:00 GMT -5
It sounds different rather than experimental, based on what we've heard.
Still looking forward to it, but slightly concerned about wearing out the skip button on my keyboard with Holy Mountain
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Post by MONO on Oct 24, 2017 11:52:36 GMT -5
]In fairness, Noel has shot down any suggestions at all this was progressive or experimental. I didn't want to imply he did so. The posting was my own comparison to the first Gallagher/"electro" track.
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Post by freddy838 on Oct 24, 2017 12:53:21 GMT -5
Holy Mountain in 2017 is not half as progessive as "Setting Sun" was in 1996. Still really dig it. Got a feeling, WBTM will be miles better than that boring adult rock album CY. ...and I'm a parka monkey. The thing about Setting Sun, is judging from the demo version that got discovered a few years ago, that could have been an absolute belting classic on Be Here Now. It still however sounded great as a dance track. What concerns me is the idea that Noel would come up with one of his choruses, the thing that really sets him apart from the rest, and Holmes would tell him to write something different. I've no doubt Noel could have come up with a better melody than is on Holy Mountain, especially for the verses. As it is, it's turned out to be a bang average album outtake dressed up differently.
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Post by MONO on Oct 24, 2017 13:29:21 GMT -5
What concerns me is the idea that Noel would come up with one of his choruses, the thing that really sets him apart from the rest, and Holmes would tell him to write something different. That's how it was or is this an assumption?
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Post by lenlagher on Oct 24, 2017 13:39:33 GMT -5
What concerns me is the idea that Noel would come up with one of his choruses, the thing that really sets him apart from the rest, and Holmes would tell him to write something different. That's how it was or is this an assumption? Noel has said in multiple interviews that Holmes asked him to re-write atleast one of the choruses on the album eight times.
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Post by MONO on Oct 24, 2017 13:55:29 GMT -5
Thanks for the info, didn't know that. We'll see how things turns out. I like Holmes' stuff (although not as much as Death in Vegas) so it doesn't necessarily have to be bad..
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Post by liamgallagher1992 on Oct 24, 2017 16:48:45 GMT -5
Got to say this song is growing on me but i can't help but feel theres a much much better song potentially hidden in it? Like the idea is fucking great but the application was just sort of like that will do. I love the instrumental more than the lyrics or chorus.
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Post by batfink30 on Oct 24, 2017 17:04:35 GMT -5
Got to say this song is growing on me but i can't help but feel theres a much much better song potentially hidden in it? Like the idea is fucking great but the application was just sort of like that will do. I love the instrumental more than the lyrics or chorus. The live version is better I think. Can't help feel it's a kind of ITHOTM song. Pretty good live and catchy but not the best on the album. It's without a doubt a grower. Probably a 6 or 7/10. The preview snippet of the album is definitely much more promising.
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Post by magicman on Oct 24, 2017 18:41:23 GMT -5
i gotta say, i like the song more since i heard the samples. it's like a 2/10 now
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Post by fabulousbakers on Oct 24, 2017 20:25:32 GMT -5
Weren't there supposed to be a few official remixes of Holy Mountain? Been a couple of weeks now since the single was first heard and I haven't spotted any.
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Post by mystoryisgory on Oct 24, 2017 21:22:48 GMT -5
Weren't there supposed to be a few official remixes of Holy Mountain? Been a couple of weeks now since the single was first heard and I haven't spotted any. I don't think so. Bedsides the instrumental. There's Andrew Weatherall and Beyond the Wizard's Sleeve remixes for It's a Beautiful World, though, and I'm hyped for those
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Post by Jim on Oct 25, 2017 1:10:47 GMT -5
Weren't there supposed to be a few official remixes of Holy Mountain? Been a couple of weeks now since the single was first heard and I haven't spotted any. I don't think so. Bedsides the instrumental. There's Andrew Weatherall and Beyond the Wizard's Sleeve remixes for It's a Beautiful World, though, and I'm hyped for those Richard Norris of Beyond The Wizards Sleeve hasn’t confirmed the track he has remixed as yet although Graham Park is confirmed by Noel as having reworked It’s a Beautiful World in a hacienda style which he wants to release as a vinyl alongside the Andrew Weatherall mix.
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Post by fabulousbakers on Oct 25, 2017 2:48:55 GMT -5
I don't think so. Bedsides the instrumental... Is the instrumental floating about yet?
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Post by Jim on Oct 25, 2017 2:56:39 GMT -5
Is the instrumental floating about yet? Not as yet. Probably need to wait for the vinyl for the instrumental.
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Post by revol on Oct 25, 2017 5:16:22 GMT -5
If there is any "fanboy-ism" going on, then I'm a Noel fanboy, I actually love "These Swollen Hand Blues", and "Soldier Boys and Jesus Freaks" is one of my favourite post-Oasis tunes. I don't mind listening to "Oh Lord!". "She must be One of Us" is also a nice sonic experience to me. However, it doesn't that I have to like everything that Noel produces. "Holy Mountain" is just not a good song in my opinion. And for sure it's not a great lead single. I gave it a spin a couple of times and that's it. I don't feel any need/urge to come back to it. I still have high hopes for the album, though. But, you know, even the greatest artists can fail when they attempt something "new". Macca with his Wings disco-period, Bowie with the abomination called "Tonight" or Lou Reed with the atrocious "New Sensations". In what way did Macca fail? Silly Love Songs for instance, (I take it you're talking about that one, among others perhaps) was a big hit and got pretty good reviews. I agree with you, my bad. SLS was a successful single. I remembered it wrongly, because the album was heavily bashed by the press and the fans.
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Post by MONO on Oct 26, 2017 13:39:00 GMT -5
In fairness, Noel has shot down any suggestions at all this was progressive or experimental. Are you sure he said so? Just asking because of "Fort Knox".
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Post by bt95 on Oct 26, 2017 17:24:51 GMT -5
In fairness, Noel has shot down any suggestions at all this was progressive or experimental. Are you sure he said so? Just asking because of "Fort Knox". In terms of Holy Mountain mate, yep
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Post by oasisserbia on Oct 27, 2017 4:24:06 GMT -5
They should fucking re-upload HM on Youtube. I just listened to Fort Knox and then HM came on autoplay after FK and it's so quite.
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Post by pliolite on Oct 27, 2017 13:18:07 GMT -5
They should fucking re-upload HM on Youtube. I just listened to Fort Knox and then HM came on autoplay after FK and it's so quite. Yeah, it's amazing that whoever uploaded it got that SO wrong... It's simply a case of the audio accidentally being turned down in the movie project. Have done the same thing myself on one of my videos... but of course I just deleted it from YouTube and re-uploaded. Noel's management probably didn't dare do that in fear of wiping out the views the video had already received once they realised the mistake...xD
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Post by pliolite on Oct 27, 2017 16:49:06 GMT -5
I now know what the flute/whistle reminds me of - the theme to Some Mothers Do Ave Em!!!
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Post by mimmihopps on Oct 27, 2017 17:00:05 GMT -5
I now know what the flute/whistle reminds me of - the theme to Some Mothers Do Ave Em!!! I knew Noel was a Frank Spencer fan. "Betty!"
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