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Post by noeliam00 on Sept 30, 2017 10:05:31 GMT -5
Liam’s voice is great. It sound amazing in all live concert
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Post by jxing on Sept 30, 2017 10:21:04 GMT -5
Thanks for all the links... Really interesting to see all that. I still can't get past the fact that he: - used to sing in tune - didn't used to sound nasally - didn't used to shout - didn't used to pull away from the Mike All the other examples of voices sounding different now are fine... But they can still sing nicely e.g. the Paul Weller example someone put up. I just don't understand how he can't sing now.... I have a horrible feeling it's purely down to him, over the years, unlearning how to sing.... Because he was trying to act hard (loud and shouting) or cool or something.... And therefore could it all be sorted by a voice coach? I think a raspier maturer Liam would be ace... If he was able to sing in tune and not through his nose. It just can't be that he has simply lost the ability to sing in tune. Hi Sara! |
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Post by Rolo on Sept 30, 2017 10:23:52 GMT -5
Thanks for all the links... Really interesting to see all that. I still can't get past the fact that he: - used to sing in tune - didn't used to sound nasally - didn't used to shout - didn't used to pull away from the Mike All the other examples of voices sounding different now are fine... But they can still sing nicely e.g. the Paul Weller example someone put up. I just don't understand how he can't sing now.... I have a horrible feeling it's purely down to him, over the years, unlearning how to sing.... Because he was trying to act hard (loud and shouting) or cool or something.... And therefore could it all be sorted by a voice coach? I think a raspier maturer Liam would be ace... If he was able to sing in tune and not through his nose. It just can't be that he has simply lost the ability to sing in tune. But he does sing in tune... |
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Post by tomlivesforever on Sept 30, 2017 10:28:09 GMT -5
Thanks for all the links... Really interesting to see all that. I still can't get past the fact that he: - used to sing in tune - didn't used to sound nasally - didn't used to shout - didn't used to pull away from the Mike All the other examples of voices sounding different now are fine... But they can still sing nicely e.g. the Paul Weller example someone put up. I just don't understand how he can't sing now.... I have a horrible feeling it's purely down to him, over the years, unlearning how to sing.... Because he was trying to act hard (loud and shouting) or cool or something.... And therefore could it all be sorted by a voice coach? I think a raspier maturer Liam would be ace... If he was able to sing in tune and not through his nose. It just can't be that he has simply lost the ability to sing in tune.This has got to be a troll. Definitely and pretty sure august is as well. Although I think august has been here before under a different name. |
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Post by Rolo on Sept 30, 2017 10:31:51 GMT -5
This has got to be a troll. Definitely and pretty sure august is as well. Although I think august has been here before under a different name. Endstation I believe. |
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Post by Willie T. Soke on Sept 30, 2017 10:34:06 GMT -5
Líam sang loud and blew his voice out....listen to those early albums, he's singing at an amazing volume.
He still has his moments....not the biggest fan of his voice in recent years, especially on his new stuff, need to hear the whole album, though.
Thanks.
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Post by edinburghrock on Sept 30, 2017 10:41:28 GMT -5
To be fair.... I'm just saying that a voice coach or expert could help. As for being a troll. I promise I'm not. I think his recorded stuff is ace.
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Post by icebreath on Sept 30, 2017 10:50:25 GMT -5
All of you saying that he need a voice coach, i've seen this argument a lot in the past, how are you so sure that he doesn't have one already? Because he doesn't say it in the interviews? I don't think Liam is the type that he'll admit that, even if in the recent years he's been frank about his voice limitations. I think after Oasis split up he cared for his voice and he changed the way he singed.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 30, 2017 11:14:25 GMT -5
Don't apologize for your English, apologize for posting at all. BRUTAL. Fine work, my man. tbh I think that's Noel's account. |
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Post by mimmihopps on Sept 30, 2017 11:15:44 GMT -5
There's something compelling in Liam's voice. Other voices at One Love were prettier, but this is the best performance from that day. I think that performance was crap. His voice sounds horrible to me. We got your opinion after reading the same comments again and again. Now move on please. Also edinburghrock, I posted all the other link in my first post in this thread to you to read them as we've had tons of this kind of threads and We don't need a new one. Cheers. |
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Post by mimmihopps on Sept 30, 2017 11:19:39 GMT -5
Thanks for all the links... Really interesting to see all that. I still can't get past the fact that he: - used to sing in tune - didn't used to sound nasally - didn't used to shout - didn't used to pull away from the Mike All the other examples of voices sounding different now are fine... But they can still sing nicely e.g. the Paul Weller example someone put up. I just don't understand how he can't sing now.... I have a horrible feeling it's purely down to him, over the years, unlearning how to sing.... Because he was trying to act hard (loud and shouting) or cool or something.... And therefore could it all be sorted by a voice coach? I think a raspier maturer Liam would be ace... If he was able to sing in tune and not through his nose. It just can't be that he has simply lost the ability to sing in tune. Hi Sara! No need for that. Don't apologize for your English, apologize for posting at all. BRUTAL. Fine work, my man. tbh I think that's Noel's account.No need for that either. |
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Post by freddy838 on Sept 30, 2017 11:20:33 GMT -5
I genuinely think it was that Hashimoto disease going undiagnosed and him just wrecking his voice every night. You could tell at his worst there was something medical wrong with him, he barely sounded human. Now his voice has changed but he is back singing with such a power and he has ultimate confidence in it again. He sounds great on the Oasis songs. Perhaps RNRS is a bit sketchy but that may be because it's the first song of the set. I'd love to watch an Oasis gig with his voice as it is now.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 30, 2017 11:27:19 GMT -5
I'd love to watch an Oasis gig with his voice as it is now. There's the issue over Noel's amps too, don't forget. Russ confirmed that in the excellent podcast with simmo. |
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Post by elephantstone93 on Sept 30, 2017 11:39:31 GMT -5
At least he hasn’t developed a lisp like Noel. Shumday you will find me.
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Post by ricardogce on Sept 30, 2017 11:45:50 GMT -5
I genuinely think it was that Hashimoto disease going undiagnosed and him just wrecking his voice every night. You could tell at his worst there was something medical wrong with him, he barely sounded human. Now his voice has changed but he is back singing with such a power and he has ultimate confidence in it again. He sounds great on the Oasis songs. Perhaps RNRS is a bit sketchy but that may be because it's the first song of the set. I'd love to watch an Oasis gig with his voice as it is now. I think he doesn't handle the pre-chorus well, but it's more down to bad technique now. When his voice started to really struggle in the mid-2000s, he would shout out the higher parts to get through it. He's still doing that in some bits, even though he doesn't really need to anymore. He'll never sound as clear and high as he did when he was in his early 20s (even by his mid-20s, what we consider his peak, he was already noticeably gruffer than the kid who recorded those early demos), but he sounds like Liam Gallagher still. In the same way even Freddie Mercury had to drop some high notes as he approached his 40s (check out any live performance of BoRhap during the 80s), even if Liam had taken perfect care of his voice, he would still sound deeper and gruffer today. It's different, but it's him still. Paul Weller doesn't really sound like the kid he was anymore, either, but it's him. Think of Robert Plant at the LZ reunion. Older, rougher, still the golden god. Bowie, Jagger, Macca... Our gods age, but their gift shines through still. |
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Post by august on Sept 30, 2017 13:38:59 GMT -5
I would rather put it this way: I can't really think of anyone of his stature whose vocals has deteriorated as badly and as fast. He went from the best frontman on earth to a great joke in just a few years. He started to sound crap somewhere around 2000/2001 or maybe 2002. That's a quite unique vocal deterioration among rock singers. I know of very few similar cases in the industry. Liam's vocal problems are extraordinary and unique, and his recent ''improvement'' is not nearly enough to make him sound good again. He still sounds mostly very bad. For instance, Wall of glass live is just horrible. This is the mainstream opinion among most people who are not writing on this forum, i.e. people who are not so completely used to Liam's horrible live vocals during the last decade that they think he suddenly sounds ''mega'' just because he doesn't embarrass himself to billions of people as he did during The Olympics. Sorry for my english. To be honest, I don't actually care what you have to say. You were boring after your first 2 posts. A notification from you is like seeing a jehova witness at your door. Good day! You are actually very similar to a Jehova witness. Very similar, since you defend Liam's vocals no matter how awful they are. You are almost unable to think critically. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 30, 2017 13:39:21 GMT -5
Liam is sounding really good in my opinion. He is at his best shape since early 2000s. That means he is giving us his best performances in 15 years.
Not only that but I sincerely think he still has been improving at a smaller rate month after month since his come back. This is even stranger since Liam voice always got worst as the tours went on.
I dont know how far this improvment could still go, and what level he can still reach. I know there are some biological limitations, but I feel he has not reached the peak quite yet.
Lets see where he goes.
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Post by august on Sept 30, 2017 13:54:31 GMT -5
I would rather put it this way: I can't really think of anyone of his stature whose vocals has deteriorated as badly and as fast. He went from the best frontman on earth to a great joke in just a few years. He started to sound crap somewhere around 2000/2001 or maybe 2002. That's a quite unique vocal deterioration among rock singers. I know of very few similar cases in the industry. Liam's vocal problems are extraordinary and unique, and his recent ''improvement'' is not nearly enough to make him sound good again. He still sounds mostly very bad. For instance, Wall of glass live is just horrible. This is the mainstream opinion among most people who are not writing on this forum, i.e. people who are not so completely used to Liam's horrible live vocals during the last decade that they think he suddenly sounds ''mega'' just because he doesn't embarrass himself to billions of people as he did during The Olympics. Sorry for my english. You're a broken record, man. Why do you keep on saying the same thing over and over again? It's very telling that you do not write such replies to people repeating over and over again how much they love Liam's vocals. You only want to hear comments agreeing with your worldview. Typical fundamentalist and immature behaviour. Why should I suddenly start posting different opinions? I think his vocals are horrible and I will state it when needed, just as you feel the need to state how great you think they are. |
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Post by tomlivesforever on Sept 30, 2017 13:57:44 GMT -5
You're a broken record, man. Why do you keep on saying the same thing over and over again? It's very telling that you do not write such replies to people repeating over and over again how much they love Liam's vocals. You only want to hear comments agreeing with your worldview. Typical fundamentalist and immature behaviour. Why should I suddenly start posting different opinions? I think his vocals are horrible and I will state it when needed, just as you feel the need to state how great you think they are. Is that you manicsfan?  |
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Post by august on Sept 30, 2017 14:00:24 GMT -5
Thanks for all the links... Really interesting to see all that. I still can't get past the fact that he: - used to sing in tune - didn't used to sound nasally - didn't used to shout - didn't used to pull away from the Mike All the other examples of voices sounding different now are fine... But they can still sing nicely e.g. the Paul Weller example someone put up. I just don't understand how he can't sing now.... I have a horrible feeling it's purely down to him, over the years, unlearning how to sing.... Because he was trying to act hard (loud and shouting) or cool or something.... And therefore could it all be sorted by a voice coach? I think a raspier maturer Liam would be ace... If he was able to sing in tune and not through his nose. It just can't be that he has simply lost the ability to sing in tune.This has got to be a troll. Why? Because he/she states his/her opinion (which is widespread among most people who are not active on this forum) and it differs from yours? |
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Post by carlober on Sept 30, 2017 14:04:50 GMT -5
You're a broken record, man. Why do you keep on saying the same thing over and over again? It's very telling that you do not write such replies to people repeating over and over again how much they love Liam's vocals. You only want to hear comments agreeing with your worldview. Typical fundamentalist and immature behaviour. Why should I suddenly start posting different opinions? I think his vocals are horrible and I will state it when needed, just as you feel the need to state how great you think they are. You've been warned multiple times. Stop it. |
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Post by tomlivesforever on Sept 30, 2017 14:05:41 GMT -5
This has got to be a troll. Why? Because he/she states his/her opinion (which is widespread among most people who are not active on this forum) and it differs from yours? Given Liam's resurgence of popularity it might be wrong to suggest that its only people of this forum who think he's singing well. The point is if you don't like something so much, why go on about among people who are enjoying it? What is the point? Nothing wrong with criticism but you have been repeating yourself for months. Its boring. |
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Post by eva on Sept 30, 2017 14:08:24 GMT -5
You're a broken record, man. Why do you keep on saying the same thing over and over again? It's very telling that you do not write such replies to people repeating over and over again how much they love Liam's vocals. You only want to hear comments agreeing with your worldview. Typical fundamentalist and immature behaviour. Why should I suddenly start posting different opinions? I think his vocals are horrible and I will state it when needed, just as you feel the need to state how great you think they are. because if you're in a fan forum dedicated to an artist, the most logical thing is to like that artist. you may dislike a few things, some songs, a few performances, not agree with certain views of that artist... but if you repeatedly post how much you dislike that artist it sounds to me like you're either trolling the fans or in the wrong place. so which one are you? |
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Post by august on Sept 30, 2017 14:08:47 GMT -5
It's very telling that you do not write such replies to people repeating over and over again how much they love Liam's vocals. You only want to hear comments agreeing with your worldview. Typical fundamentalist and immature behaviour. Why should I suddenly start posting different opinions? I think his vocals are horrible and I will state it when needed, just as you feel the need to state how great you think they are. Is that you manicsfan? I don't think I've heard a single song by Manic street preachers, if "manics" is referring to them. But I assume that their vocalist does not sound like an out-of-tune barking dog when singing (like Liam did a few years ago before "improving massively"). Thus, according to your logic his/her vocals are probably sounding "mega" just based on that simple fact. Everything that is not a barking dog is "mega". Great! |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 30, 2017 14:09:20 GMT -5
The argument of people outside this forum agree that his voice is shit is so easy to undermine. I have countless mates, who were never Oasis fans(some actually love Blur instead) who were surprised at how he recovered his voice and loved the live forever version at OLM. You may not like it, and you are in your right, but don´t come here and say his voice is shit like it´s an absolute truth that everybody outside here agrees with, because it´s not.
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