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Post by headshrinker84 on Apr 15, 2018 13:02:43 GMT -5
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Post by AppleScruff on Apr 15, 2018 15:54:57 GMT -5
Duh, my friend just told me that Ajax are playing a match in Arena next week Thursday, Mean Mrs. Mustard. It'll be very busy around station/venue/arena. They played a match when I went to see Franz Ferdinand/The Cribs at HMH in 2009. I remember there were police men in car, foot and on horse everywhere around area. I’m going to the Amsterdam gig too. Will the Ajax game not be finished by 9.30 whereas Noel will be on until 10.45ish? So hopefully football crowd would have dispersed by time gig gets out? What is the deal with this after party thing you mention? Is that part of the ticket if you choose to hang around for it? |
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Post by mimmihopps on Apr 15, 2018 16:01:43 GMT -5
Duh, my friend just told me that Ajax are playing a match in Arena next week Thursday, Mean Mrs. Mustard. It'll be very busy around station/venue/arena. They played a match when I went to see Franz Ferdinand/The Cribs at HMH in 2009. I remember there were police men in car, foot and on horse everywhere around area. I’m going to the Amsterdam gig too. Will the Ajax game not be finished by 9.30 whereas Noel will be on until 10.45ish? So hopefully football crowd would have dispersed by time gig gets out? What is the deal with this after party thing you mention? Is that part of the ticket if you choose to hang around for it? It'll be very busy around station/venue before the venue's door opens. After show is organized by the venue itself and it's free. As soon as Noel's gig finishes, after show with a band called Mooon starts on the 1st floor of the venue. |
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Post by AppleScruff on Apr 15, 2018 16:13:45 GMT -5
I’m going to the Amsterdam gig too. Will the Ajax game not be finished by 9.30 whereas Noel will be on until 10.45ish? So hopefully football crowd would have dispersed by time gig gets out? What is the deal with this after party thing you mention? Is that part of the ticket if you choose to hang around for it? It'll be very busy around station/venue before the venue's door opens. After show is organized by the venue itself and it's free. As soon as Noel's gig finishes, after show with a band called Mooon starts on the 1st floor of the venue. Ok yeah see your point - thanks. We’re not sure whether to go nearby to venue at say 5/6pm or just arrive in time for Blossoms. Probably the latter if we can time it to avoid the footy crowd. Are there decent places to go for a drink near the venue? Will they likely be full of Ajax fans? Someone had suggested a place called Cafe Hot or Not for a drink before, said it’s central and played Oasis and indie music. Can’t wait for Thursday but hoping Noel makes a few tweaks to that set |
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Post by bt95 on Apr 15, 2018 16:54:26 GMT -5
Wow that sounds weak. Really needs to sound bigger. Yeh I thought the same. But then I watched the vid that's closer up and it does sound better - maybe it's just a case of the different cameras or whatever? But yeh, I'd much rather him play Black & White Sunshine or Falling Down than that tbf. ILITL - I do like it but it's probably my least favourite on the album. And since it doesn't look like he's going to do TMWBTM any time soon, I just hope there's one or two changes by the time Manchester comes around. Tbf to Noel, and the haters are gonna hate whatever, he has mixed his set around - relatively speaking, for him - quite a lot this time. And in the soundchecks he's clearly testing out different things before throwing them in. |
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Post by headshrinker84 on Apr 15, 2018 20:40:06 GMT -5
Wow that sounds weak. Really needs to sound bigger. Yeh I thought the same. But then I watched the vid that's closer up and it does sound better - maybe it's just a case of the different cameras or whatever? But yeh, I'd much rather him play Black & White Sunshine or Falling Down than that tbf. ILITL - I do like it but it's probably my least favourite on the album. And since it doesn't look like he's going to do TMWBTM any time soon, I just hope there's one or two changes by the time Manchester comes around. Tbf to Noel, and the haters are gonna hate whatever, he has mixed his set around - relatively speaking, for him - quite a lot this time. And in the soundchecks he's clearly testing out different things before throwing them in. Yeah i just seen that video and it does sound better. |
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Post by malakh on Apr 16, 2018 0:52:58 GMT -5
Wow that sounds weak. Really needs to sound bigger. Yeh I thought the same. But then I watched the vid that's closer up and it does sound better - maybe it's just a case of the different cameras or whatever? But yeh, I'd much rather him play Black & White Sunshine or Falling Down than that tbf. ILITL - I do like it but it's probably my least favourite on the album. And since it doesn't look like he's going to do TMWBTM any time soon, I just hope there's one or two changes by the time Manchester comes around. Tbf to Noel, and the haters are gonna hate whatever, he has mixed his set around - relatively speaking, for him - quite a lot this time. And in the soundchecks he's clearly testing out different things before throwing them in. I don't know, overall, sound wasn't too good, but this is mainly Lucerna Hall problem. Quite a lot of people complained. As for ILITL - it's nice he played it, but it wasn't necessary. I agree on B&WS or Falling Down would be much better choices, these songs would fit nicely in the setlist. |
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Post by Mean Mrs. Mustard on Apr 16, 2018 0:57:30 GMT -5
It'll be very busy around station/venue before the venue's door opens. After show is organized by the venue itself and it's free. As soon as Noel's gig finishes, after show with a band called Mooon starts on the 1st floor of the venue. Ok yeah see your point - thanks. We’re not sure whether to go nearby to venue at say 5/6pm or just arrive in time for Blossoms. Probably the latter if we can time it to avoid the footy crowd. Are there decent places to go for a drink near the venue? Will they likely be full of Ajax fans? Someone had suggested a place called Cafe Hot or Not for a drink before, said it’s central and played Oasis and indie music. Can’t wait for Thursday but hoping Noel makes a few tweaks to that set I'd pick the second option. There's absolutely no need to be queueing that early for Noel (or Liam). Most people will arrive later. AFAS is situated on a square that has multiple bars and restaurants. I'm still hoping for Falling Down. |
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Post by mimmihopps on Apr 16, 2018 0:59:54 GMT -5
It'll be very busy around station/venue before the venue's door opens. After show is organized by the venue itself and it's free. As soon as Noel's gig finishes, after show with a band called Mooon starts on the 1st floor of the venue. Ok yeah see your point - thanks. We’re not sure whether to go nearby to venue at say 5/6pm or just arrive in time for Blossoms. Probably the latter if we can time it to avoid the footy crowd. Are there decent places to go for a drink near the venue? Will they likely be full of Ajax fans? Someone had suggested a place called Cafe Hot or Not for a drink before, said it’s central and played Oasis and indie music. Can’t wait for Thursday but hoping Noel makes a few tweaks to that set Unfortunately there's not much places for a drink near the venue. The area has Amsterdam Arena, Ziggo Dome, AFAS Live and that's it. Without any football match and concerts, the whole area is pretty dead actually. Cafe Hot or Not is near to the Central Station, or just heading to Leidseplein to have a drink before heading to the venue. Safe journey and have a great time.  |
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Post by AppleScruff on Apr 16, 2018 6:49:12 GMT -5
Ok yeah see your point - thanks. We’re not sure whether to go nearby to venue at say 5/6pm or just arrive in time for Blossoms. Probably the latter if we can time it to avoid the footy crowd. Are there decent places to go for a drink near the venue? Will they likely be full of Ajax fans? Someone had suggested a place called Cafe Hot or Not for a drink before, said it’s central and played Oasis and indie music. Can’t wait for Thursday but hoping Noel makes a few tweaks to that set I'd pick the second option. There's absolutely no need to be queueing that early for Noel (or Liam). Most people will arrive later. AFAS is situated on a square that has multiple bars and restaurants. I'm still hoping for Falling Down. Yeah I didn’t mean arrive at 5/6pm to queue! Just meant to go to nearby bars or restaurants prior to the gig. I think we’ll stay central anyway and enjoy the weather hopefully. Fingers crossed that Falling Down is in there. Looking forward to hearing some of Blossoms new material also. |
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Post by underneaththesky on Apr 16, 2018 15:00:50 GMT -5
sounds weak and needs to sound BIGGER?  man, you're listening to this on your phone taking a shit at work? wow tell me it doesnt sound good  |
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Post by asimarx on Apr 16, 2018 18:33:15 GMT -5
Errrrm, I had a hard time staying awake at the Berlin gig, anyone else experienced the same?
Little by Little and Dead in the Water were surprinsingly good though, but that's about it. Noel didn't really seem to care, so did the audience. I actually prefer WBTM?, but Liam's gig, five weeks ago, had been an nuclear assault in comparison.
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Post by MONO on Apr 17, 2018 2:15:13 GMT -5
Liam's gig, five weeks ago, had been an nuclear assault in comparison. It was like day and night. The first half of Noel's gig was just BORING. The best songs of the whole gig were "Dead in the water" and "The Right Stuff" with the black girl singing the vocals. I never thought the sub standard CY album version could be turned into such an amazing track. Chris Sharrock really got into Keith-Moon-mode on this one. I got totally flashed by this version. To me, this concert clearly proved that Noel is a great songwriter but totally lacks any entertainment/frontman capabilities. Whereas his gig was a (partly great) rock show for grown ups standing there, holding their beers and talking to each other during songs or boring parts, Liam's gig was APOCALYPSE NOW. Plus Liam let the Sherlocks play at 100% volume and sound quality and the Beatles/Roses/etc. tracks before his gigs were loud and sounded great, too. The Blossoms had to play at a lower volume and their sound was shitty. So was the sound of the tunes before Noel came up. The atmosphere during "I am the resurrection" (last song before Liam entered the stage) was just so much better than during Noel's whole gig. Which is just ridiculous. P.S: First gig I've ever been, someone thought it'd be a good idea to refresh his deodorant during a rock show! |
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Post by mouth on Apr 17, 2018 4:51:55 GMT -5
i was surprised about how many old people were around. there was one couple, which looked as if they were in their 70ies. and many more which were clearly in their late 50ies/60ies.
honestly, i didn't find it as boring as last time, when i really couldn't wait for it to end. it also doesn't help, that the max schmeling halle isn't exactly the best venue for a concert. the sound is awful. i don't know why he's still coming back. there are so many other venues in berlin he could fill.
the set list is pretty mehh. and that he still hasn't ditched wonderwall and dlbia is annoying as fuck. especially the way he's playing them.
noel should have the balls to play a concert full of b-sides and non singles, to please his long time fans, and not these "oh im going nuts, cos he's playing wonderwall and dlbia for the 1242421431426 time" fans.
oh, and he once again proved that he clearly is not good in judging his own work, when he said that he believes step out is one of his worst efforts. fuck you, noel, it's not! you are regularly playing songs, which are boring as fuck and are way worse.
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Post by bt95 on Apr 17, 2018 5:30:51 GMT -5
i was surprised about how many old people were around. there was one couple, which looked as if they were in their 70ies. and many more which were clearly in their late 50ies/60ies. honestly, i didn't find it as boring as last time, when i really couldn't wait for it to end. it also doesn't help, that the max schmeling halle isn't exactly the best venue for a concert. the sound is awful. i don't know why he's still coming back. there are so many other venues in berlin he could fill. the set list is pretty mehh. and that he still hasn't ditched wonderwall and dlbia is annoying as fuck. especially the way he's playing them. noel should have the balls to play a concert full of b-sides and non singles, to please his long time fans, and not these "oh im going nuts, cos he's playing wonderwall and dlbia for the 1242421431426 time" fans.
oh, and he once again proved that he clearly is not good in judging his own work, when he said that he believes step out is one of his worst efforts. fuck you, noel, it's not! you are regularly playing songs, which are boring as fuck and are way worse.No, he shouldn't. He should probably do a few different Oasis songs and I hope he does, but there's nothing wrong with playing the hits - he'd get slammed for not doing it. Noel can't do any right for people on this tour anyway. Also, he's entitled to his opinion just as much as you are. Get a grip ffs. I love Step Out, but if he doesn't like it, he doesn't like it. Liam has played the same songs for six months. Is that an issue? Every video/picture I've seen looks like people had a good time. Just presenting the other side of the argument My mate was at the Prague gig the other day and said it was brilliant. |
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Post by lau on Apr 17, 2018 8:14:18 GMT -5
nbhap.com/stories/review-oasis-reuinon-noel-gallaghers-high-flying-birdsStop Waiting For That Oasis Reuinon And Embrace Noel Gallagher’s High Flying Birds Following his latest performance in Berlin it becomes more than clear that the older of the two Gallagher brothers isn't interested in becoming a legacy act. 17/04/2018 by Norman Fleischer ‘Are you fucking serious? Of all the fucking tunes you want this one?‘ For a brief moment Noel Gallagher loses his cool and returns to his old ruffian habits. Some fan in the third row politely asks (aka screams) to play Step Out, the B-Side to Don’t Look Back In Anger. Noel hasn’t played it in 20 years and back then only once like he explains. ‘And you know why?’, he asks the guy in the audience, ‘Because it’s shite. I know that because I fucking wrote it.’ End of discussion. Enough limelight for the Mancunian legend today. Noel returns to what he does best: play his music, not in a leading role but as part of a group. And it feels as if his High Flying Birds indeed got bigger and bigger over the years. Partly there were eleven people on the stage of Berlin’s Max-Schmeling-Halle on that night. Gallagher just happens to be the guy who sings but he’s probably already working on a plan to outsource that job as well. These observations sump up the dilemma of Noel Gallagher in the year 2018 pretty well. It’s impossible for him to shake off his own legacy but … damn, he would really love to. It’s a phenomenon I noticed at all previous shows of Noel Gallagher’s High Flying Birds at the same place as well. There’s a large number of keepers of this legacy available who prefer Oasis‘ undeniable past glory over whatever the heck the older of the two Gallagher brothers is musically up to these days. And that divide between past and present is getting harder and harder with every new release. 2017’s Who Built The Moon is Noel’s most progressive work so far, an adventurous step out of his own comfort zone and away from the 90s Britpop past. It’s a psychedelic, soulful dance album, inspired by 60s LSD pop, Spaghetti Western but also Manchester’s very own rave history. He already freed himself from the past in some way on the first two High Flying Birds records but the latest one truly marks his most radical coup yet. I mean, he can’t shake off his talent so the Noel Gallagher sense for Beatles-like melodies is still sensible throughout it but there’s not much space left for good ol’ fashioned Oasis Britpop in there. You especially sense that when he performs a selection of classics from his previous band on that night, mostly the ones he sang as well back then. But somehow tracks like Half The World Away and The Importance Of Being Idle feel a bit out place, despite their greatness. Noel is trying to react with his own legacy in a playful way. Go Let It Out sounds less dirty when Liam is not at the microphone and the infamous Wonderwall gets more playful verses to avoid a too obvious stadium sing-along. However, Don’t Look Back In Anger remains Don’t Look Back In Anger because… well, it’s one of the greatest songs in music history and there’s no sense in denying that. Plus people would probably hang him on the nearest street lamp if he didn’t play this one. And since the emotional connection is usually stronger with those tunes you surely can’t blame those two thirds of the audience. The other third however seems to enjoy that new sound as much as the old ones. If I Had A Gun, Riverman and Aka… What A Life are on their way to become modern Noel classics and so will the tracks of Who Built The Moon, even if they are less ‘in your face’ stadium anthems. Accepting the unchangeabale (for now) It was a way harder for Noel to fill the arena this time than on his previous tours because his exclusive right to perform the Oasis legacy isn’t exclusive anymore, now that his brother is a direct competitor. Liam‘s solo show in a smaller sold out venue in Berlin one month earlier has been a different experience, one that was closer to the past. It was a sweaty old-fashioned rock show with moshpit, stiff-upper-lip showmanship and all the energetic Oasis classics Noel isn’t performing. Liam’s solo debut As You Were was a less subtle attempt to revisit the traditional musical territory of his former band. Personally, to me, it felt a bit forced and Liam was surely playing safe with the songs on it… which might explain why he needed help from external songwriters. Liam was and will never be such a great songwriter as his brother, on the other hand Noel will never reach that level of presence his brother got. A while back I would have followed this observation with a sentence like ‘But they are best when they join forces’ but for the first time ever I’m not really sure about. In the past decade after Oasis’ overdue split these two have moved into totally different directions. Liam relies on former strength and a simple yet efficient strategy. He wants to keep the old-fashioned rock and roll alive. It’s music for pubs, drinking lads and throwing beer cups. For Noel however it’s less about Cigarettes And Alcohol these days than more about ‘LSD and red wine, please’ (he’s wearing a freakin’ turtleneck sweater): He’s freeing his musicality from the limitations of Liam’s sound and attitude although I still think the younger Gallagher brother is way more adaptive than he wants to confess. He’s just too much of a stubborn big child. Liam might need his bigger bother more than the other way around. But here we are straight back at the old rivalry language. Maybe it’s time to get beyond this, to accept the unchangeable and let the past be past, at least to some degrees. It’s kind of ironic in that way that Noel ends the set with a cover of The Beatles‘ All You Need Is Love because that should stand beyond everything anyway. I’m 100 percent sure that – after all the solo tours and promotional battles – these two will get along in the end and we will most likely witness an Oasis reunion in the next years. For the fans, for financial reasons, for their own peace – who knows? It could be brilliant or horrible but it will happen; not for good but for a brief time. But the longer these two lads will continue their personal artistic progress the less I am actually interested in it and I happily invite all the other Oasis fans to join me in this attitude.
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Post by crisppacket on Apr 17, 2018 13:58:41 GMT -5
No, he shouldn't. He should probably do a few different Oasis songs and I hope he does, but there's nothing wrong with playing the hits - he'd get slammed for not doing it. Noel can't do any right for people on this tour anyway. Also, he's entitled to his opinion just as much as you are. Get a grip ffs. I love Step Out, but if he doesn't like it, he doesn't like it. Liam has played the same songs for six months. Is that an issue? Every video/picture I've seen looks like people had a good time. Just presenting the other side of the argument My mate was at the Prague gig the other day and said it was brilliant. Should he not? He’s the one saying that he would play more obscure Oasis stuff, but for whatever reason he doesn’t yet includes an unnecessary Ryan Adams wonderwall. And yeah Liam has played the pretty much setlist, but he’s mixed it up more than Noel has e.g DYKWIM, Rocking Chair, he’s adding Bring it on down and probs Champagne Supernova for the summer shows |
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Post by bt95 on Apr 17, 2018 15:57:09 GMT -5
No, he shouldn't. He should probably do a few different Oasis songs and I hope he does, but there's nothing wrong with playing the hits - he'd get slammed for not doing it. Noel can't do any right for people on this tour anyway. Also, he's entitled to his opinion just as much as you are. Get a grip ffs. I love Step Out, but if he doesn't like it, he doesn't like it. Liam has played the same songs for six months. Is that an issue? Every video/picture I've seen looks like people had a good time. Just presenting the other side of the argument My mate was at the Prague gig the other day and said it was brilliant. Should he not? He’s the one saying that he would play more obscure Oasis stuff, but for whatever reason he doesn’t yet includes an unnecessary Ryan Adams wonderwall. And yeah Liam has played the pretty much setlist, but he’s mixed it up more than Noel has e.g DYKWIM, Rocking Chair, he’s adding Bring it on down and probs Champagne Supernova for the summer shows I don't think he should do an entire gig's worth of Oasis songs as the initial post suggested (so, as in 6-7 songs of the 20-21 that are Oasis), that are only b-sides/obscure tracks. I do want him to do more, but I also don't see what's wrong with playing the hits. I think one of Wonderwall or HTWA could be dropped without too much impact, but TIOBI and LBL are both great singalong moments, and DLBIA has to be in there. He's playing Go Let It Out, which hasn't been done in 15 years, but people weren't happy with it. He's also doing a cover he'd performed only twice in his career before this tour. And I'm sure if he plays Falling Down, which he's now soundchecking, people will criticise that as well Liam really hasn't mixed it up that much, though once making a few changes. I'm sure there'll be 2 or 3 come the summer, but by the looks of it there could be for Noel as well. I don't see a problem with either of their approaches. I understand the frustration, but also don't expect that he has to play loads of obscure songs - which he has actually done anyway, just perhaps not as many as we'd all like, but not every NG fan is as full on as we are. |
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Post by Mean Mrs. Mustard on Apr 17, 2018 16:21:38 GMT -5
Liam just dropped DYKWIM and added Rockin Chair for 3 gigs or something. Don't act like he does a Bruce Springsteen at every gig.
Look, I totally get why he picked those specific Oasis songs:
1. They were hits
2. He sang (most of) them
3. Don't ever expect DLBIA to leave the setlist. Like I've said before, it's Noel's Hey Jude. It's his signature song.
However, I'll be seeing Noel on Thursday for the third time and he's doing the same Oasis songs he did both times before (apart from the Masterplan). Fucking shake it up a little more, man. Play Falling Down. Play the best song on your new album! Play other stuff.
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Post by crisppacket on Apr 17, 2018 17:01:19 GMT -5
Should he not? He’s the one saying that he would play more obscure Oasis stuff, but for whatever reason he doesn’t yet includes an unnecessary Ryan Adams wonderwall. And yeah Liam has played the pretty much setlist, but he’s mixed it up more than Noel has e.g DYKWIM, Rocking Chair, he’s adding Bring it on down and probs Champagne Supernova for the summer shows I don't think he should do an entire gig's worth of Oasis songs as the initial post suggested (so, as in 6-7 songs of the 20-21 that are Oasis), that are only b-sides/obscure tracks. I do want him to do more, but I also don't see what's wrong with playing the hits. I think one of Wonderwall or HTWA could be dropped without too much impact, but TIOBI and LBL are both great singalong moments, and DLBIA has to be in there. He's playing Go Let It Out, which hasn't been done in 15 years, but people weren't happy with it. He's also doing a cover he'd performed only twice in his career before this tour. And I'm sure if he plays Falling Down, which he's now soundchecking, people will criticise that as well Liam really hasn't mixed it up that much, though once making a few changes. I'm sure there'll be 2 or 3 come the summer, but by the looks of it there could be for Noel as well. I don't see a problem with either of their approaches. I understand the frustration, but also don't expect that he has to play loads of obscure songs - which he has actually done anyway, just perhaps not as many as we'd all like, but not every NG fan is as full on as we are. I haven’t got a problem with him playing the hits, but I hate the Ryan Adams wonderwall he does- either do it as it is or drop it tbh. Also if he does add falling down that’ll be fucking mega, but I have a feeling if he does do it, it’ll replace GLIO which I also can’t wait to hear. Wouldn’t kill him to drop a cheeky b-side every now and then, but Noel’s gonna Noel I guess. |
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Post by bt95 on Apr 17, 2018 17:06:28 GMT -5
I don't think he should do an entire gig's worth of Oasis songs as the initial post suggested (so, as in 6-7 songs of the 20-21 that are Oasis), that are only b-sides/obscure tracks. I do want him to do more, but I also don't see what's wrong with playing the hits. I think one of Wonderwall or HTWA could be dropped without too much impact, but TIOBI and LBL are both great singalong moments, and DLBIA has to be in there. He's playing Go Let It Out, which hasn't been done in 15 years, but people weren't happy with it. He's also doing a cover he'd performed only twice in his career before this tour. And I'm sure if he plays Falling Down, which he's now soundchecking, people will criticise that as well Liam really hasn't mixed it up that much, though once making a few changes. I'm sure there'll be 2 or 3 come the summer, but by the looks of it there could be for Noel as well. I don't see a problem with either of their approaches. I understand the frustration, but also don't expect that he has to play loads of obscure songs - which he has actually done anyway, just perhaps not as many as we'd all like, but not every NG fan is as full on as we are. I haven’t got a problem with him playing the hits, but I hate the Ryan Adams wonderwall he does- either do it as it is or drop it tbh. Also if he does add falling down that’ll be fucking mega, but I have a feeling if he does do it, it’ll replace GLIO which I also can’t wait to hear. Wouldn’t kill him to drop a cheeky b-side every now and then, but Noel’s gonna Noel I guess.
I love Liam's version in the Oasis hay-day but now I just don't think Liam actually needs to do it. I think him doing Live Forever acoustic covers it. If Noel was still doing it exactly the same way that he did on the last tour (where he basically did the Ryan Adam's version) then I'd agree with you, but if you listened the other night or have seen vids (i'm sure you will have done), then he's actually switched it up again. The structure is the same, but Jess' backing vocals and Mikey's keys are adding a lot too it, and while I'd rather see Falling Down (or insert B-side here) in the set, I'm at least happy he's switched it up a bit and is doing it differently. It's still a great piece of music. HTAW - I bloody love that tune, but ffs yeh, I do think it needs to go. He's not doing anything new with it. It's a great singalong but I don't think he needs it in this set. |
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Post by crisppacket on Apr 17, 2018 17:14:19 GMT -5
I haven’t got a problem with him playing the hits, but I hate the Ryan Adams wonderwall he does- either do it as it is or drop it tbh. Also if he does add falling down that’ll be fucking mega, but I have a feeling if he does do it, it’ll replace GLIO which I also can’t wait to hear. Wouldn’t kill him to drop a cheeky b-side every now and then, but Noel’s gonna Noel I guess.
I love Liam's version in the Oasis hay-day but now I just don't think Liam actually needs to do it. I think him doing Live Forever acoustic covers it. If Noel was still doing it exactly the same way that he did on the last tour (where he basically did the Ryan Adam's version) then I'd agree with you, but if you listened the other night or have seen vids (i'm sure you will have done), then he's actually switched it up again. The structure is the same, but Jess' backing vocals and Mikey's keys are adding a lot too it, and while I'd rather see Falling Down (or insert B-side here) in the set, I'm at least happy he's switched it up a bit and is doing it differently. It's still a great piece of music. HTAW - I bloody love that tune, but ffs yeh, I do think it needs to go. He's not doing anything new with it. It's a great singalong but I don't think he needs it in this set. Liam didn’t even do wonderwall when I went to see him, so that’s why I’d rather Noel do it the original way because it’ll be the first time I’ll see/hear the song being sung live. I’m sure it’ll go down well anyway. I agree with HTWA, nice enough song, but I think LBL fills the role of “big singalong” quite well, so he could easily do something else. |
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Post by Officer Jim Kurring on Apr 17, 2018 17:14:23 GMT -5
I don't think he should do an entire gig's worth of Oasis songs as the initial post suggested (so, as in 6-7 songs of the 20-21 that are Oasis), that are only b-sides/obscure tracks. I do want him to do more, but I also don't see what's wrong with playing the hits. I think one of Wonderwall or HTWA could be dropped without too much impact, but TIOBI and LBL are both great singalong moments, and DLBIA has to be in there. He's playing Go Let It Out, which hasn't been done in 15 years, but people weren't happy with it. He's also doing a cover he'd performed only twice in his career before this tour. And I'm sure if he plays Falling Down, which he's now soundchecking, people will criticise that as well Liam really hasn't mixed it up that much, though once making a few changes. I'm sure there'll be 2 or 3 come the summer, but by the looks of it there could be for Noel as well. I don't see a problem with either of their approaches. I understand the frustration, but also don't expect that he has to play loads of obscure songs - which he has actually done anyway, just perhaps not as many as we'd all like, but not every NG fan is as full on as we are. I haven’t got a problem with him playing the hits, but I hate the Ryan Adams wonderwall he does- either do it as it is or drop it tbh. Also if he does add falling down that’ll be fucking mega, but I have a feeling if he does do it, it’ll replace GLIO which I also can’t wait to hear. Wouldn’t kill him to drop a cheeky b-side every now and then, but Noel’s gonna Noel I guess. I'd like you to be my 'and one' at the Royale wedding this summer.... Thanks. |
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Post by crisppacket on Apr 17, 2018 17:16:09 GMT -5
I haven’t got a problem with him playing the hits, but I hate the Ryan Adams wonderwall he does- either do it as it is or drop it tbh. Also if he does add falling down that’ll be fucking mega, but I have a feeling if he does do it, it’ll replace GLIO which I also can’t wait to hear. Wouldn’t kill him to drop a cheeky b-side every now and then, but Noel’s gonna Noel I guess. I'd like you to be my 'and one' at the Royale wedding this summer.... Thanks. !Pervert! |
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Post by bt95 on Apr 17, 2018 17:23:09 GMT -5
Having seen both Noel and Liam play Wonderwall (NG once, Liam twice), for me, Noel's new version is better.
I love Liam's version in the Oasis hay-day but now I just don't think Liam actually needs to do it. I think him doing Live Forever acoustic covers it. If Noel was still doing it exactly the same way that he did on the last tour (where he basically did the Ryan Adam's version) then I'd agree with you, but if you listened the other night or have seen vids (i'm sure you will have done), then he's actually switched it up again. The structure is the same, but Jess' backing vocals and Mikey's keys are adding a lot too it, and while I'd rather see Falling Down (or insert B-side here) in the set, I'm at least happy he's switched it up a bit and is doing it differently. It's still a great piece of music. HTAW - I bloody love that tune, but ffs yeh, I do think it needs to go. He's not doing anything new with it. It's a great singalong but I don't think he needs it in this set. Liam didn’t even do wonderwall when I went to see him, so that’s why I’d rather Noel do it the original way because it’ll be the first time I’ll see/hear the song being sung live. I’m sure it’ll go down well anyway. I agree with HTWA, nice enough song, but I think LBL fills the role of “big singalong” quite well, so he could easily do something else. Ah, that's fair enough. Yeh, he played it at Leeds Fest last year and then again when I saw him in Amsterdam in March. First time I'd seen DYKWIM, BHN was at Leeds Fest, and then first time seeing Cigs and Alcohol and (electric) Supersonic (though I saw Noel's version in 2012 and do really like that version as well) was in Amsterdam. |
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