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Post by Rolo on Sept 22, 2017 3:07:22 GMT -5
Yeah from the write up you'd think it got a 5.
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Post by freddy838 on Sept 22, 2017 3:41:13 GMT -5
I've never worked out what qualifies people to be music reviewers, and how many times through they actually listen to it, or what prejudices they have towards particular artists before they listen. Therefore I find it hard to trust any of them. A lot of them just come across as dickheads too.
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Post by Casino Boogie on Sept 22, 2017 11:22:20 GMT -5
4 out of 5 in the new edition of Mojo (Bowie on the cover) with a short interview. Haven't got a scanner - sorry.
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Post by elephantstone93 on Sept 22, 2017 11:27:30 GMT -5
4 out of 5 in the new edition of Mojo (Bowie on the cover) with a short interview. Haven't got a scanner - sorry. Great score that.
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Post by Rolo on Sept 22, 2017 12:11:21 GMT -5
Great scores these. 4/5 in Mojo and 7/10 in Uncut is a really good start.
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Post by themanwithnoname on Sept 22, 2017 13:08:04 GMT -5
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"John singing Julian songs". Ouch. Quite a good line though, to be fair. That review writeup was awfully snarky for an album that they supposedly concluded to be a 7/10. Am I supposed to come away with a good or bad impression of this album?? Yeah, you get the feeling the reviewer isn't keen on Liam/Oasis anyway and was never going to give it a fair go.
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Post by Rolo on Sept 22, 2017 13:23:37 GMT -5
That review writeup was awfully snarky for an album that they supposedly concluded to be a 7/10. Am I supposed to come away with a good or bad impression of this album?? Yeah, you get the feeling the reviewer isn't keen on Liam/Oasis anyway and was never going to give it a fair go. Yet still scored it 7.. it's an odd one.
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Post by Derrick on Sept 22, 2017 14:23:11 GMT -5
Yeah, you get the feeling the reviewer isn't keen on Liam/Oasis anyway and was never going to give it a fair go. Yet still scored it 7.. it's an odd one. Regarding scores, I heard from a journalist who worked for French music magazine Rock&Folk that the chief editor of the magazine tells the reviewers what score to give an album, then the journalist will write his review but the score does not necessarily match the reviewer's actual opinion on the album. That French journalist said that for instance he "gave" "Don't believe the truth" 4/5 when he reviewed that album in 2005 in Rock&Folk, but that if he'd been free to express his opinion he'd have rated only it 3/5. I was really surprised about that but according to that journalist it's common practice in journalism, & he wasn't shocked at all, because he said he'd recently launched a new music magazine of his own & he did the same, told his employees how to grade every album, then they would write their reviews. This actually explains why I regularly read reviews where the rating's a bit at odds with the review of the album (i.e. an album given 4/5 after a not-so-enthusiastic review, or a very favourable review followed by an inexplicably average score).
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Post by walterglass on Sept 22, 2017 20:41:54 GMT -5
Rock and Roll is a very direct artform. It is its strength as well. Otherwise it would not connect so viscerally.
Reviewing art is, however, a much more expansive, reflective and intricate act.
To review Rock and Roll in the usual manner is like performing an autopsy on a fucking peperami.
And I'm being serious FTR.
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Post by walterglass on Sept 22, 2017 20:44:05 GMT -5
And, yeah, I "liked" my own post.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 22, 2017 20:47:56 GMT -5
I´m actually going to review both brothers albums for a culture and arts page of expanding exposure in Portugal. It´s not a paid job, everyone works for free, it´s a community project with close to a 1 million likes but it´s a great opportunity, normally i review Cinema on a affiliate website of them but i got the invite from a friend to do this. I can translate it if anybody wants it when that time arrives.
Seeing stuff like this amazes me how people get paid to write generic stuff any guy with half a brain can write. I see way better reviews on web sites of people who don´t get paid to do that stuff, they actually go track by track and analyse it. Everything else is only half-assing.
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Post by ricardogce on Sept 22, 2017 20:54:56 GMT -5
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"John singing Julian songs". Ouch. Quite a good line though, to be fair. That review writeup was awfully snarky for an album that they supposedly concluded to be a 7/10. Am I supposed to come away with a good or bad impression of this album?? That's music journalism in a nutshell: 1. Pinch your balls and count the number of hairs you plucked out. That's your score. 2. Briefly comment on the music. Preferably a description of the general sound rather than any kind of emotional response. 3. Add two-thirds cynical/snarky commentary more based on the subject's history than on the work you're actually reviewing. I never get anything out of music reviews. It's all a bunch of people trying to out-wit each other. For PR purposes, I'll be happy to see the album get some good scores. So I guess I'm hoping for hairy-bolixed journos?
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Post by jxing on Sept 22, 2017 22:48:33 GMT -5
they're not even concerned about the album or the fans.. it's about who can get it out the fastest and get the most hits...
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Post by leron on Sept 25, 2017 9:03:46 GMT -5
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Post by Rolo on Sept 25, 2017 9:06:50 GMT -5
Brilliant stuff!
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Post by thomaslivesforever on Sept 25, 2017 9:28:58 GMT -5
Mojo and Q on board is great news! Great that 3 of the 5 recommended are his too.
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Post by GlastoEls on Sept 25, 2017 9:42:58 GMT -5
What a year...
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Post by mancraider on Sept 25, 2017 10:06:11 GMT -5
Q say the three released songs have been streamed 22 million times. Is that considered impressive? I've never streamed a song in my life outside watching YouTube.
I assume it must be or they wouldn't mention it.
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Post by Lennon2217 on Sept 25, 2017 10:25:50 GMT -5
Q say the three released songs have been streamed 22 million times. Is that considered impressive? I've never streamed a song in my life outside watching YouTube. I assume it must be or they wouldn't mention it. Honestly it’s nothing when you look at the biggies on Spotify where some artists have 500 million streams on single songs let alone a combination of 3. It is a big deal that a 45 year old rocker from the 90s can still get millions of ears to shut up and listen.
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Post by jordan71421 on Sept 25, 2017 10:39:26 GMT -5
Q say the three released songs have been streamed 22 million times. Is that considered impressive? I've never streamed a song in my life outside watching YouTube. I assume it must be or they wouldn't mention it. Honestly it’s nothing when you look at the biggies on Spotify where some artists have 500 million streams on single songs let alone a combination of 3. It is a big deal that a 45 year old rocker from the 90s can still get millions of ears to shut up and listen. Yeah I feel the same way. I love that he gets himself onto Twitter Moments every once in a while. I’m 23 and people my age who didn’t really know who he was until the One Love concert this year retweet his rants all the time. The video of him making tea on the BBC blew UP on Twitter.
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Post by elephantstone93 on Sept 25, 2017 10:40:16 GMT -5
Q say the three released songs have been streamed 22 million times. Is that considered impressive? I've never streamed a song in my life outside watching YouTube. I assume it must be or they wouldn't mention it. Honestly it’s nothing when you look at the biggies on Spotify where some artists have 500 million streams on single songs let alone a combination of 3. It is a big deal that a 45 year old rocker from the 90s can still get millions of ears to shut up and listen. By comparison, and this is looking at Spotify only, The Roller is the most streamed Beady Eye song at 3.9 million streams, In The Heat Of The Moment is the most streamed Noel song at 13.2 million streams. Wall of Glass is already on 11.8 million streams. So as you said it’s not impressive when compared to the huge pop stars of today, but it is pretty good in general.
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Post by joladella on Sept 25, 2017 10:47:03 GMT -5
Honestly it’s nothing when you look at the biggies on Spotify where some artists have 500 million streams on single songs let alone a combination of 3. It is a big deal that a 45 year old rocker from the 90s can still get millions of ears to shut up and listen. Yeah I feel the same way. I love that he gets himself onto Twitter Moments every once in a while. I’m 23 and people my age who didn’t really know who he was until the One Love concert this year retweet his rants all the time. The video of him making tea on the BBC blew UP on Twitter. I guess that goes hand in hand with the baffling current headlines that Liam is actually called William John Paul. I'm pretty sure everyone from the Oasis/Gallagherism fandom knew that, apart from all those who only now became aware of his existence.
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Post by Mr. Sifter on Sept 25, 2017 10:51:55 GMT -5
Yeah I feel the same way. I love that he gets himself onto Twitter Moments every once in a while. I’m 23 and people my age who didn’t really know who he was until the One Love concert this year retweet his rants all the time. The video of him making tea on the BBC blew UP on Twitter. I guess that goes hand in hand with the baffling current headlines that Liam is actually called William John Paul. I'm pretty sure everyone from the Oasis/Gallagherism fandom knew that, apart from all those who only now became aware of his existence. That piece of "news" is actually shocking. I can't believe how it's being written about in all these papers all over the world. I've seen it in three different swedish ones over the weekend. Must be some weird PR fuckery going on. Good to have his name out there I guess, even if it's a non-story.
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Post by mancraider on Sept 25, 2017 11:07:37 GMT -5
Q say the three released songs have been streamed 22 million times. Is that considered impressive? I've never streamed a song in my life outside watching YouTube. I assume it must be or they wouldn't mention it. Honestly it’s nothing when you look at the biggies on Spotify where some artists have 500 million streams on single songs let alone a combination of 3. It is a big deal that a 45 year old rocker from the 90s can still get millions of ears to shut up and listen. I guess it is a generational thing. Liam's original fanbase (like me) aren't generally natural users of streaming services. It's great that he is building a younger audience for himself as well.
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Post by psj3809 on Sept 25, 2017 12:14:30 GMT -5
Bit disappointed we havent seen more reviews. With the album out a week Friday I thought a few more would be around
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