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Post by ricardogce on Aug 24, 2017 19:25:42 GMT -5
Having spent 20 years with the muddy, low-res version of DYKWIM, the video for the Rethink blew me away. It made it feel like somehow their younger selves had traveled into the present, it was such a cool and eerie feeling.
Do we know which of their other videos were shot on 35mm film, and thus could potentially yield an HD (or better) master? DLBIA and GLIO are two I'd give anything to see remastered.
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Post by deadman on Aug 25, 2017 1:06:29 GMT -5
I'd hazard a guess that the majority of the 90s videos were shot on 16mm, which in the right hands can be given a very good HD remaster. davidjay should be able to provide more information. Might be a good project, tracking down all the directors/production companies to get more info on their holdings.
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Post by scyhopath on Aug 25, 2017 3:43:31 GMT -5
There is a list of directors for each music video on the Oasis' discography page: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oasis_discographyMost of the videos in the early to mid 90s were shot on film and if the original reels are still kept somewhere and remained in pristine condition, it should be possible to make a digital transfer of the film - pretty much like what was done with DYKWIM last year. Me, I would love to see Be Here Now era videos remastered, especially those that relied heavily on CGI and animation - "All Around the World" and "Don't Go Away". Now, while the 3D stuff can be either retrieved from the original files then beefed up to modern standards or redone using the original video as a reference, the green-screen shot scenes of Liam and Noel probably were shot with a digital camera and there's only so much you can do with the material that has the resolution of a DVD film. But we can't know this for sure - I suppose it all boils down to finding contact information to all the directors and production companies involved, and asking all the important questions
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Post by davidjay on Aug 25, 2017 4:58:06 GMT -5
Will post more on this later, but all Nigel Dick's Oasis videos were shot on 16mm, and Don't Go Away may have been 35mm. One of the issues in remastering these early 90s videos in HD is that (as far as I can tell) there was never a complete version of each promo on film. They telecined the original camera negatives, and all the editing and post-production was done on SD video. Many were commissioned by Sony and edited in US facilities, resulting in an NTSC videotape master. So to create HD versions you'd have to find all the film negatives (assuming they were kept), scan them in 2K, identify every shot used in the finished video & conform... the whole post-production process would have to be redone from scratch. In 2014 I asked Nigel Dick about some of these questions and he got back with the following: You mentioned in our previous interview that the [Live by the Sea] concert was shot on 16mm... I was wondering if this was shot at 24 frames-per-second, then telecined in NTSC (with 3:2 pulldown) for the video release? Probably. It was shot in the UK (obviously) and post-production happened in LA. (The PAL DVD I have here has some odd motion artefacts, where the image stutters every few seconds. Was thinking this might be down to an old conversion of an NTSC master tape, causing judder on the picture. Would appreciate your insight on this... any information on the shooting format and telecine transfer of the concert would be great). Shot on 16mm, transferred & edited in LA. That's all I can tell you. It was smooth the last time I saw it so I can only conclude that it's down a couple of generations now. Also, were the music videos you shot for Oasis (Wonderwall, Don't Look Back in Anger etc) post-produced in NTSC? Yes. All shot in 16mm in the UK and put through post in LA. Don't Look Back In Anger being the odd one out in that it was shot in LA. Finally, I was wondering if you might know whether the original 16mm and 35mm film footage (of Live by the Sea and any of the Oasis music videos) has been kept, enabling an HD restoration in the future. You'd have to ask Sony that. The dailies are always returned to the label immediately the job is completed. At which point they usually disappear into a big dark hole and are never seen again. FYI everything I did for Oasis was shot 16mm apart from "Don't Go Away" which might have been 35mm. (I think). Original post is on page 2 of this thread: live4ever.proboards.com/thread/79040/replica-1993-demo-cassette-picsMany thanks to Nigel for taking the time to reply to these questions.
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Post by davidjay on Aug 25, 2017 5:00:16 GMT -5
As an aside to the above it was interesting to hear from Mat Whitecross regarding the state of Sony's US archives. He wanted to use certain film rushes in Supersonic but apparently Sony's archive staff there weren't too helpful, so a lot of the music video outtakes used in the documentary had to be sourced from U-matic cassettes kept by the director Mark Szaszy. www.oasis-recordinginfo.co.uk/?page_id=1952
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