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Post by Deleted on Jul 15, 2017 19:52:54 GMT -5
Agree with this. Noel throwing an "as you weren't" dig was him basically admitting hes on Liam's level now. This is two brothers on the same level of success going at each other. He would never have done anything like that while Liam was in Beady Eye. Not a chance. Wait, huh? When did Liam accumulate 2 platinum albums, a year plus run in the album charts, two arena tours, a performance on the BRITS, and three top 30 singles? I mean, Noel's doing a stadium tour with U2 right now. A stadium tour. Liam's been exclusively playing festivals. I don't want to do a brother comparison, but I don't think there's anything that backs up the above statement. Liam has a long way to go before he's as successful in his solo career, as Noel's been. It obviously could happen. But, Liam hasn't even released his album yet, and you're saying that he's had the same level of success as someone who's about to release their third? It's not like the people who visit those concert come for Noel. He is just supporting them. And that doesn't have to mean he is doing something good since it's because Noel and U2 are close friends. |
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Post by spaneli on Jul 15, 2017 19:58:42 GMT -5
Wait, huh? When did Liam accumulate 2 platinum albums, a year plus run in the album charts, two arena tours, a performance on the BRITS, and three top 30 singles? I mean, Noel's doing a stadium tour with U2 right now. A stadium tour. Liam's been exclusively playing festivals. I don't want to do a brother comparison, but I don't think there's anything that backs up the above statement. Liam has a long way to go before he's as successful in his solo career, as Noel's been. It obviously could happen. But, Liam hasn't even released his album yet, and you're saying that he's had the same level of success as someone who's about to release their third? Stats tells only part of the story. There are things that couldn't be reflected in those. When you talk about something great, first thing comes up won't be how many platinum albums sold. You talk about how they give you goosebumps, how they electrify the scene. The fact Liam is able to create this much buzz before releasing an album, to get so much love from fans even after Beady Eye, is something Noel can never match. And Noel knows that. Noel needs numbers to prove himself more than Liam. You mean, like when Noel had his press conference to announce his solo career?  I think people forget that Noel came out firing. The press conference was mega news. His face was plastered everywhere, not to mention that he had already pre-planned interviews, so every day there were literally 4-5 interviews coming out. I mean, that stretch, from the moment he announced his solo album to the Brit Awards was probably the best promotion a Gallagher has done since BHN. Noel completely and utterly capitalized on his first post-Oasis release, and create "buzz" as you say. And yea, platinum albums do prove buzz. So, I don't get your point. Is selling 800k+ albums in the UK your first time out not indicative of buzz? If buzz doesn't translate to your sales...then what's the point? Honestly. Sales are indicative of you capitalizing on that buzz. If this thing that Liam has that Noel doesn't, as you say, doesn't translate to sales, then clearly Liam's most likely wasted his chance. How about Liam actually releases an album before we try to make comparisons that we have no solid proof of. |
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Post by spud on Jul 15, 2017 20:13:41 GMT -5
No chance of a reunion happening in the next ten years imo.
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Post by spaneli on Jul 15, 2017 20:17:12 GMT -5
And Sarah is another factor. I actually think Noel might have thought about the matter seriously at least a couple of times but i reckon she might not want him to go through the trouble of being around Liam again often and for the sake of a stable family life he sticks with solo. I´m happy NG has a happy marriage but he fucking changed so much due to her. It´s like he does everything she wants. That´s never what a relationship should be about, you should just remain yourself.There are more than one reasons, we could be here all night making them up. Can people stop doing this? Do you know his wife? Have you been at their family dinners? If Noel doesn't want to rejoin Liam, it's because of Noel. It amazes me how often people on this forum are always willing to shift the blame to some unknown party. Noel is clearly happy in his marriage, and his relationship with Liam was fucked before Sara. Stop making her into some Yoko Ono scapegoat. |
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Post by themightyeye on Jul 15, 2017 20:21:09 GMT -5
Maybe Noel enjoys this stadium tour with U2 and wants headline this (UK) venues again... But yes, there ist too much bad blood I think the big stadium tour with U2 will give Noel the itch for OASIS for sure. But Noel needs to also realize he's not cut to be a frontman. He's below average |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 15, 2017 20:27:58 GMT -5
And Sarah is another factor. I actually think Noel might have thought about the matter seriously at least a couple of times but i reckon she might not want him to go through the trouble of being around Liam again often and for the sake of a stable family life he sticks with solo. I´m happy NG has a happy marriage but he fucking changed so much due to her. It´s like he does everything she wants. That´s never what a relationship should be about, you should just remain yourself.There are more than one reasons, we could be here all night making them up. Can people stop doing this? Do you know his wife? Have you been at their family dinners? If Noel doesn't want to rejoin Liam, it's because of Noel. It amazes me how often people on this forum are always willing to shift the blame to some unknown party. Noel is clearly happy in his marriage, and his relationship with Liam was fucked before Sara. Stop making her into some Yoko Ono scapegoat. It´s pretty obvious when he spends countless interviews talking about his wife, how she made him do this and that. Like, who the fuck cares? You are your own person, it´s really just a matter of comparing how he was before this and how he is now, even in interviews, he just seems like a different guy. Part of it it´s because of him being older, but i doubt that´s the only reason. He gives the impression that he changes a lot to please her, and i don´t like when people do that. I might be totally wrong and i´m not saying this with 101% truth, i´m just saying that´s the idea Noel passes to me in interviews. He´s still a bit arrogant, but comes across to me as a different type of arrogant and that change as come mainly since Oasis split. I know his problems with Liam have nothing to do with Sara directly, that´s stuff that goes way beyond what happened during that fight that ended up breaking the band. |
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Post by tomlivesforever on Jul 15, 2017 20:44:42 GMT -5
I don't know why anyone wants an Oasis reunion. Don't get me wrong, I would see them live but really what would they bring given their last few albums.
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Post by eva on Jul 15, 2017 20:52:19 GMT -5
how many oasis reunion threads will you start Beady’s Here Now? why can't you just gather the same thought into one? Jesus also, what's the problem with Noel talking about his wife in interviews? is he less of a man or something? less rock n roll?! sometimes you read the most ridiculous things on this forum |
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Post by spud on Jul 15, 2017 20:57:38 GMT -5
how many oasis reunion threads will you start Beady’s Here Now ? why can't you just gather the same thought into one? Jesus also, what's the problem with Noel talking about his wife in interviews? is he less of a man or something? less rock n roll?! sometimes you read the most ridiculous things on this forum Nobody said there was a problem with him talking about his wife. |
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Post by eva on Jul 15, 2017 20:58:45 GMT -5
how many oasis reunion threads will you start Beady’s Here Now ? why can't you just gather the same thought into one? Jesus also, what's the problem with Noel talking about his wife in interviews? is he less of a man or something? less rock n roll?! sometimes you read the most ridiculous things on this forum Nobody said there was a problem with him talking about his wife. just read the previous posts |
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Post by freddy838 on Jul 15, 2017 22:40:04 GMT -5
It's certainly a lot more likely now than it was. I don't think Noel would ever do it if he felt Liam wasn't up to it, now I think it's a matter of time. Noel's about to finish his trilogy and Liam's made a statement that he can do it by himself which even though the slagging continues, Noel must have taken notice. I'd be surprised if the next Noel album sells a huge amount, still more than Liam most likely, but in comparison to an Oasis tour and album which he would probably write all of would be nothing. Im not sure who would play bass though as Andy seems to be enjoying being back with Ride.
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Post by madferitusa2025 on Jul 15, 2017 22:44:06 GMT -5
When you just don't get along with someone, even someone you think you need, and you get yourself right afterwards, you move to a better situation. Seems Liam is getting himself right.
How about maybe Liam smashes it out of the park, then says fuck off, I'm the one who's not interested anymore.
I'd be alright with that.
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Post by liamgallagher1992 on Jul 15, 2017 22:48:45 GMT -5
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Post by liamgallagher1992 on Jul 15, 2017 22:50:26 GMT -5
And Sarah is another factor. I actually think Noel might have thought about the matter seriously at least a couple of times but i reckon she might not want him to go through the trouble of being around Liam again often and for the sake of a stable family life he sticks with solo. I´m happy NG has a happy marriage but he fucking changed so much due to her. It´s like he does everything she wants. That´s never what a relationship should be about, you should just remain yourself. There are more than one reasons, we could be here all night making them up. Behind every great band, there is a fucking woman ruining it for the fans. |
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Post by liamgallagher1992 on Jul 15, 2017 22:52:44 GMT -5
Agree with this. Noel throwing an "as you weren't" dig was him basically admitting hes on Liam's level now. This is two brothers on the same level of success going at each other. He would never have done anything like that while Liam was in Beady Eye. Not a chance. Wait, huh? When did Liam accumulate 2 platinum albums, a year plus run in the album charts, two arena tours, a performance on the BRITS, and three top 30 singles? I mean, Noel's doing a stadium tour with U2 right now. A stadium tour. Liam's been exclusively playing festivals. I don't want to do a brother comparison, but I don't think there's anything that backs up the above statement. Liam has a long way to go before he's as successful in his solo career, as Noel's been. It obviously could happen. But, Liam hasn't even released his album yet, and you're saying that he's had the same level of success as someone who's about to release their third? Let me stop you before you drop your Noel stat notepad. Liams album will outsell Noels last album easily. Sorry Statto |
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Post by mostlyharmless on Jul 15, 2017 23:38:20 GMT -5
Stats tells only part of the story. There are things that couldn't be reflected in those. When you talk about something great, first thing comes up won't be how many platinum albums sold. You talk about how they give you goosebumps, how they electrify the scene. The fact Liam is able to create this much buzz before releasing an album, to get so much love from fans even after Beady Eye, is something Noel can never match. And Noel knows that. Noel needs numbers to prove himself more than Liam. You mean, like when Noel had his press conference to announce his solo career? I think people forget that Noel came out firing. The press conference was mega news. His face was plastered everywhere, not to mention that he had already pre-planned interviews, so every day there were literally 4-5 interviews coming out. I mean, that stretch, from the moment he announced his solo album to the Brit Awards was probably the best promotion a Gallagher has done since BHN. Noel completely and utterly capitalized on his first post-Oasis release, and create "buzz" as you say.And yea, platinum albums do prove buzz. So, I don't get your point. Is selling 800k+ albums in the UK your first time out not indicative of buzz? If buzz doesn't translate to your sales...then what's the point? Honestly. Sales are indicative of you capitalizing on that buzz. If this thing that Liam has that Noel doesn't, as you say, doesn't translate to sales, then clearly Liam's most likely wasted his chance. How about Liam actually releases an album before we try to make comparisons that we have no solid proof of. I did not say Noel's first album didn't generate buzz. I said Liam managed to get it after Beady Eye, after people thought he had failed and out for 3 years. NGHFB "completely and utterly capitalized his first post-Oasis release" - exactly. Had Noel released two unsuccessful albums after Oasis? NGHFB was released 2 years after Oasis' split when its legacy still lingered. Now 8 years has passed. I'm not arguing who's better. We all know Noel is a great songwriter which Liam would never be. Noel's still the favored Gallagher to the general public, and rightly so. Ed Sheeran is favored by the general public. Coldplay is favored by the general public. It's just they are different and to measure their "success" pixel by pixel makes little sense. My point is, to Noel himself, Liam doesn't need the same sales to be on the same level with him. Noel has an inferiority complex. |
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Post by Beady’s Here Now on Jul 15, 2017 23:40:07 GMT -5
I fucking love this forum.
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Post by spaneli on Jul 15, 2017 23:56:52 GMT -5
You mean, like when Noel had his press conference to announce his solo career? I think people forget that Noel came out firing. The press conference was mega news. His face was plastered everywhere, not to mention that he had already pre-planned interviews, so every day there were literally 4-5 interviews coming out. I mean, that stretch, from the moment he announced his solo album to the Brit Awards was probably the best promotion a Gallagher has done since BHN. Noel completely and utterly capitalized on his first post-Oasis release, and create "buzz" as you say.And yea, platinum albums do prove buzz. So, I don't get your point. Is selling 800k+ albums in the UK your first time out not indicative of buzz? If buzz doesn't translate to your sales...then what's the point? Honestly. Sales are indicative of you capitalizing on that buzz. If this thing that Liam has that Noel doesn't, as you say, doesn't translate to sales, then clearly Liam's most likely wasted his chance. How about Liam actually releases an album before we try to make comparisons that we have no solid proof of. I did not say Noel's first album didn't generate buzz. I said Liam managed to get it after Beady Eye, after people thought he had failed and out for 3 years. NGHFB "completely and utterly capitalized his first post-Oasis release" - exactly. Had Noel released two unsuccessful albums after Oasis? NGHFB was released 2 years after Oasis' split when its legacy still lingered. Now 8 years has passed. I'm not arguing who's better. We all know Noel is a great songwriter which Liam would never be. Noel's still the favored Gallagher to the general public, and rightly so. Ed Sheeran is favored by the general public. Coldplay is favored by the general public. It's just they are different and to measure their "success" pixel by pixel makes little sense. My point is, to Noel himself, Liam doesn't need the same sales to be on the same level with him. Noel has an inferiority complex.The guy constantly mention him on Twitter doesn't? Woooowwwwww.  |
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Post by spaneli on Jul 15, 2017 23:59:39 GMT -5
Wait, huh? When did Liam accumulate 2 platinum albums, a year plus run in the album charts, two arena tours, a performance on the BRITS, and three top 30 singles? I mean, Noel's doing a stadium tour with U2 right now. A stadium tour. Liam's been exclusively playing festivals. I don't want to do a brother comparison, but I don't think there's anything that backs up the above statement. Liam has a long way to go before he's as successful in his solo career, as Noel's been. It obviously could happen. But, Liam hasn't even released his album yet, and you're saying that he's had the same level of success as someone who's about to release their third? Let me stop you before you drop your Noel stat notepad. Liams album will outsell Noels last album easily. Sorry Statto I would suspect that Liam's album will sell well. It does have like 6 months worth of pre order. But will it do 800k+? Probably not. Ergo, probably not as successful as Noel. So, remind me again how Liam has shown the same success statto? |
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Post by spaneli on Jul 16, 2017 0:00:50 GMT -5
And Sarah is another factor. I actually think Noel might have thought about the matter seriously at least a couple of times but i reckon she might not want him to go through the trouble of being around Liam again often and for the sake of a stable family life he sticks with solo. I´m happy NG has a happy marriage but he fucking changed so much due to her. It´s like he does everything she wants. That´s never what a relationship should be about, you should just remain yourself. There are more than one reasons, we could be here all night making them up. Behind every great band, there is a fucking woman ruining it for the fans. If you actually mean that then you're a disgusting as*hole. |
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Post by headshrinker84 on Jul 16, 2017 0:01:31 GMT -5
Wait, huh? When did Liam accumulate 2 platinum albums, a year plus run in the album charts, two arena tours, a performance on the BRITS, and three top 30 singles? I mean, Noel's doing a stadium tour with U2 right now. A stadium tour. Liam's been exclusively playing festivals. I don't want to do a brother comparison, but I don't think there's anything that backs up the above statement. Liam has a long way to go before he's as successful in his solo career, as Noel's been. It obviously could happen. But, Liam hasn't even released his album yet, and you're saying that he's had the same level of success as someone who's about to release their third? Let me stop you before you drop your Noel stat notepad. Liams album will outsell Noels last album easily. Sorry Statto  |
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Post by spaneli on Jul 16, 2017 0:07:21 GMT -5
how many oasis reunion threads will you start Beady’s Here Now? why can't you just gather the same thought into one? Jesus also, what's the problem with Noel talking about his wife in interviews? is he less of a man or something? less rock n roll?! sometimes you read the most ridiculous things on this forum The people on this forum. I wonder what their reaction would be if someone said the same thing about their marriage. |
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Post by liamgallagher1992 on Jul 16, 2017 0:07:54 GMT -5
Let me stop you before you drop your Noel stat notepad. Liams album will outsell Noels last album easily. Sorry Statto I would suspect that Liam's album will sell well. It does have like 6 months worth of pre order. But will it do 800k+? Probably not. Ergo, probably not as successful as Noel. So, remind me again how Liam has shown the same success statto? You the one who always posts lame tedious sly digs at him, oh yeah thought so. Move on Spaghetti O |
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Post by headshrinker84 on Jul 16, 2017 0:08:44 GMT -5
how many oasis reunion threads will you start Beady’s Here Now? why can't you just gather the same thought into one? Jesus also, what's the problem with Noel talking about his wife in interviews? is he less of a man or something? less rock n roll?! sometimes you read the most ridiculous things on this forum The people on this forum. I wonder what their reaction would be if someone said the same thing about their marriage. Some right nutjobs on this forum. |
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Post by liamgallagher1992 on Jul 16, 2017 0:08:56 GMT -5
Behind every great band, there is a fucking woman ruining it for the fans. If you actually mean that then you're a disgusting as*hole. LOL You still here? |
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