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Post by russiangenius on Jun 11, 2017 1:26:32 GMT -5
I don't care about Liam's voice right now, but you uploaded in your YouTube channel Live Forever in Astoria 2005. And the main treasure is Headshrinker from this gig. If you could describe how did it sound like, we would absolve you haha
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Post by underneaththesky on Jun 11, 2017 1:29:35 GMT -5
hhhHhHhHhHHHhhHhHhHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAHhHhHhHH playpen this nonesense delete this bastard numbah 2 from this place go listen to some BIEBER, he does sound fucking good, I tell you
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Post by liammuc on Jun 11, 2017 2:55:15 GMT -5
It sounded good to me and that is all I care about. He isn't as good live anymore and he never will be but there is no point getting hung up on it. Dylan sounds shit, McCartney sounds bad but people still come because of the songs and who they are. Liam's voice has always been a select taste, his 90's vocals appealed to more people but the majority of people in the world think The X Factor has good singers. At least he still sounds good on record and if he sings as good as One Love I'll be a happy chappy. Same here. Last time i saw him live was in 2009 with Oasis in Munich. Not only did he looked strange with his hair back then but he sounded really bad to my taste. He sounds much better right now - so no complaints here.
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Post by scyhopath on Jun 11, 2017 3:06:26 GMT -5
How is your YouTube account and/or being an Oasis fan since 1994 legitimating what you say in any way? Like honestly - who gives a shit? We're all Oasis fans. This is an Oasis forum. We're not here by sheer coincidence mate. You made a fair point though - Liam's voice has declined big time since the 1990s and potential Oasis fans could be discouraged after hearing what he sounds like now. At the same time, I don't believe that he cares much about what the casual fans think anyway. To get hooked on Liam is to be able to understand that he is not just about the vocals - he also has charisma and attitude, and that is what escapes many casual fans. Simple as that.
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Post by mouth on Jun 11, 2017 3:33:39 GMT -5
EDIT: Because of several aggressive yes-men replies not focusing on the actual facts but instead interpreting an earlier name of this thread literally (typical extremist behaviour), I have now changed the name (however, I don't even know what would be the "correct" name given that Liam's voice has probably not sounded worse since he was born). you have to accept that this place is a fan forum. the majority doesn't seem to judge free from their fandom. it sometimes amazes and scares me at the same time (e.g. that people around here actually thought that he sounded good at the olympics; he sounded horrible and you must be either covered in fandom or deaf to not hear that). his voice is pretty okay now compared to the years before, cos he actually tries to sing again, but it's really NOWHERE near to what it was when oasis were the biggest band in the world. and everyone that thinks that it's the best in 20 years is a bit delusional.
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Post by thomaslivesforever on Jun 11, 2017 3:48:08 GMT -5
EDIT: Because of several aggressive yes-men replies not focusing on the actual facts but instead interpreting an earlier name of this thread literally (typical extremist behaviour), I have now changed the name (however, I don't even know what would be the "correct" name given that Liam's voice has probably not sounded worse since he was born). you have to accept that this place is a fan forum. the majority doesn't seem to judge free from their fandom. it sometimes amazes and scares me at the same time (e.g. that people around here actually thought that he sounded good at the olympics; he sounded horrible and you must be either covered in fandom or deaf to not hear that). his voice is pretty okay now compared to the years before, cos he actually tries to sing again, but it's really NOWHERE near to what it was when oasis were the biggest band in the world. and everyone that thinks that it's the best in 20 years is a bit delusional. You would do well to accept that to.
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Post by mouth on Jun 11, 2017 3:56:20 GMT -5
you have to accept that this place is a fan forum. the majority doesn't seem to judge free from their fandom. it sometimes amazes and scares me at the same time (e.g. that people around here actually thought that he sounded good at the olympics; he sounded horrible and you must be either covered in fandom or deaf to not hear that). his voice is pretty okay now compared to the years before, cos he actually tries to sing again, but it's really NOWHERE near to what it was when oasis were the biggest band in the world. and everyone that thinks that it's the best in 20 years is a bit delusional. You would do well to accept that to. so you're telling me that, because this is a fan forum, you shouldn't openly discuss an opinion which differs from the majority around here? awesome! just because one is a fan, doesn't mean that he as to be delusional about everything liam related. that's ridiculous. escpecially since everyone is calling the guy that created this thread a troll, even though he's just stating his opinion on liam's voice, which is absolutely valid. maybe you should accept that there are fans out there, which have a bit of a critical opinion. no?
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Post by carlober on Jun 11, 2017 4:07:29 GMT -5
You would do well to accept that to. so you're telling me that, because this is a fan forum, you shouldn't openly discuss an opinion which differs from the majority around here? awesome! just because one is a fan, doesn't mean that he as to be delusional about everything liam related. that's ridiculous. escpecially since everyone is calling the guy that created this thread a troll, even though he's just stating his opinion on liam's voice, which is absolutely valid. maybe you should accept that there are fans out there, which have a bit of a critical opinion. no? How can you take someone's opinion seriously if he starts a thread named "Liam, the worst he has sounded in 25 years"? You just can't. It smells trolling from miles away.
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Post by Diamond in The Dark on Jun 11, 2017 4:09:34 GMT -5
Liam sings better every day. The haters can hear Lady Gaga if they want!
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Post by mouth on Jun 11, 2017 4:24:16 GMT -5
so you're telling me that, because this is a fan forum, you shouldn't openly discuss an opinion which differs from the majority around here? awesome! just because one is a fan, doesn't mean that he as to be delusional about everything liam related. that's ridiculous. escpecially since everyone is calling the guy that created this thread a troll, even though he's just stating his opinion on liam's voice, which is absolutely valid. maybe you should accept that there are fans out there, which have a bit of a critical opinion. no? How can you take someone's opinion seriously if he starts a thread named "Liam, the worst he has sounded in 25 years"? You just can't. It smells trolling from miles away. honestly, how can you take someone serious that starts a thread named "Liam, the best he has sounded in 20 years!"?
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Post by carlober on Jun 11, 2017 4:31:22 GMT -5
How can you take someone's opinion seriously if he starts a thread named "Liam, the worst he has sounded in 25 years"? You just can't. It smells trolling from miles away. honestly, how can you take someone serious that starts a thread named "Liam, the best he has sounded in 20 years!"? I agree that 20 is definitely a bit of a stretch but I guess everyone would agree that the One Love gig was arguably Liam's best vocal performance in years, probably since the early DBTT era. But saying that it's the worst he has sounded in 25 years is such an absurd statement. Just look at those shocking 2006 performances, or the BE tour. It's just nonsense and it's not hard to see why it can be regarded as trolling by many.
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Post by modxxii on Jun 11, 2017 4:38:54 GMT -5
The voice "of a generation" will never come back BUT he sings well in this tour, so far at least. Fact. The thread title is pure trolling.
And he sounds very very good on Wall of Glass.... way better than any other BE tune.
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Post by mouth on Jun 11, 2017 4:53:34 GMT -5
honestly, how can you take someone serious that starts a thread named "Liam, the best he has sounded in 20 years!"? I agree that 20 is definitely a bit of a stretch but I guess everyone would agree that the One Love gig was arguably Liam's best vocal performance in years, probably since the early DBTT era. But saying that it's the worst he has sounded in 25 years is such an absurd statement. Just look at those shocking 2006 performances, or the BE tour. It's just nonsense and it's not hard to see why it can be regarded as trolling by many. i completely agree, as stated before, that his voice sounds better than anything he did with beady eye. with that regarads, i don't agree that his voice is the worst in 25 years. but still, if it's his opinion, it's his opinion. i don't think it's very smart to counter that opinion with "go to listen to lady gaga" or "it's not a justin bieber forum" or whatever was said. that's pretty cringeworthy to me. i'd rather have someone stating a not so popular opinion than a horde of delusional fanbois with no critical opinion on anything oasis or liam related whatsoever.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 11, 2017 4:56:06 GMT -5
EDIT: Because of several aggressive yes-men replies not focusing on the actual facts but instead interpreting an earlier name of this thread literally (typical extremist behaviour), I have now changed the name (however, I don't even know what would be the "correct" name given that Liam's voice has probably not sounded worse since he was born). I have spoken to about ten non-Oasis fans about the performance on One Love Manchester. None, and I mean none, thought Liam's voice was good. Everyone though it was so nasal that it sounded like he was holding his nose while singing, that it was weak and that it was an empty shell compared to his glory days. Sure, he hit the notes better than the last couple of tours, but the voice is completely gone. It's also completely different, in a bad way. He sounds like a ghost, a shadow of his former self. Really, really, sad. I really loved his voice, even live at least sometimes, not very long ago. And back in the 90s and sometimes during 2000-2002 it was of course possibly the best live voice in rock history. But today... I mean this is just so sad. I am 100% convinced that anyone who thinks he sounded "great" is a fan that is so used to his horrible live vocals during the last 15 years that any slight improvement compared to Kermit suddenly induces comments such as "the best he has sounded in 20 years". Utter crap performance. Horrible, in fact. I do not even recognize the voice. It's like another person singing. I remember when I saw Oasis in Argentina in 2009, and some people in the audience were just looking at eachother, quite amazed, and commented in spanish on how Liam sounded like a barking dog during Slide Away and several other songs. For some reason, his voice sounded much better on Champagne Supernova and a couple of other songs, but overall it was just horrible. Not as bad as the performance in Argentina back in 2006, but still horrible. Fortunately, the fans in Argentina don't care and sing along anyway. But most agreed that his voice was utterly crap. Similarly, his performance on the Olympics were probably the worst performance by any vocalist in rock history. Even my mother was embarrased by hearing it, and she was even telling me that he felt sorry for him and the fact that he has lost his once beautiful voice. I guess many people here thought it was good because they have lowered their standards so much by listening to his crap live vocals for 15 years, but any sane person from the outside thought it was horrible. I have met hundreds of non-Oasis fans won over by Liam's old voice. I have, however, never met a single non-Oasis fan who likes his current voice. Not a single one. Maybe if you are a native english speaker, his voice sounds a bit better simply because it's your native language (that's quite common also for swedish singers), I don't know. But I cannot stand his current voice. It's not Liam singing. It's someone else. You do not have to agree. But I am not a troll. I just want Liam's management to know what actual people (not the hardcore yes-men of this forum) thinks about his vocals, if it's true that they actually read these threads. By the way, I run the Endstation account on Youtube and I am a big Oasis fan since 1994. I have seen them live in 6 countries, have all the singles as well as Liam's autograph etc etc bla bla. Honestly it's just sad that I even have to mention this. Sorry for my english. Liam's management? Why the fuck would they need to know that some people don't like his voice anymore? It's not like they could repair it.
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Post by uǝɥʇɐǝɥ on Jun 11, 2017 5:00:52 GMT -5
Oh, cheese...
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