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Post by bastardnumber1 on Oct 25, 2016 9:07:07 GMT -5
www.musicweek.com/news/read/liam-gallagher-signs-with-coda-music-agency/066336Former Oasis and Beady Eye frontman Liam Gallagher has signed with Coda Music Agency. The rock singer is set to release his debut solo album in 2017 via Warner Bros. Records and will be represented on the live circuit by Coda agent and partner Alex Hardee. “Coda is proud to announce one of the true music legends of our time joins our ranks,” said Hardee, whose personal roster includes the likes of Bastille, Jess Glynne and Jake Bugg. “With a new record deal with Warners, exciting times lay ahead.” The London-based agency is already home to acts such as Take That, The Prodigy, Ellie Goulding, Bon Iver and The xx, as well as All Saints, band of Gallagher’s ex-wife Nicole Appleton. Gallagher, 44, is being managed by his girlfriend Debbie Gwyther and UROK Management. While with Beady Eye, he was booked by Oasis agent Ben Winchester of Primary Talent International - who also reps Noel Gallagher’s High Flying Birds - and latterly by David Levy of WME. The reissue of Oasis’ 1997 album Be Here Now went in at No.4 in this week’s Official Albums Chart, with sales of 12,492.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 25, 2016 9:14:34 GMT -5
It sounds as though we no longer have to worry about delays due to having the same management.
Hooray!
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Post by Deleted on Oct 25, 2016 9:45:22 GMT -5
The reissue of Oasis’ 1997 album Be Here Now went in at No.4 in this week’s Official Albums Chart, with sales of 12,492. liam signing a record deal is exciting news indeed, and not to derail the thread or anything but 12,000 units... is the music industry really in that much trouble? EDIT: just noticed it's the agency he signed with, and not the record label.
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Post by Lennon2217 on Oct 25, 2016 10:11:10 GMT -5
The reissue of Oasis’ 1997 album Be Here Now went in at No.4 in this week’s Official Albums Chart, with sales of 12,492. liam signing a record deal is exciting news indeed, and not to derail the thread or anything but 12,000 units... is the music industry really in that much trouble? EDIT: just noticed it's the agency he signed with, and not the record label. Yeah. The record industry is dead. It's gonna turn away so many future artists because the lack of money to sustain your career might not be there. Right now we are seeing the end of long established acts who can still push some units just because of the brand name but bands coming up now? Good luck. Few, if any, will go platinum or multi plantinum. I'm still shocked Adele was able to break Be Here Now's record. Why did all those people buy albums in record numbers??? Already declining sales for artists across the board and massive piracy.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 25, 2016 10:53:04 GMT -5
What are the differences between Debbie, Warner Bros and Coda? Could somebody explain? I still don't know how it works, just like Oasis: Big Brother, Ignition, Marcus Russell?
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Post by Mean Mrs. Mustard on Oct 25, 2016 11:02:09 GMT -5
What are the differences between Debbie, Warner Bros and Coda? Could somebody explain? I still don't know how it works, just like Oasis: Big Brother, Ignition, Marcus Russell? Debbie Gwyther and Marcus Russell are the managers. Ignition and Coda are the agencies. Warner Bros and Big Brother are the record companies.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 25, 2016 11:12:17 GMT -5
liam signing a record deal is exciting news indeed, and not to derail the thread or anything but 12,000 units... is the music industry really in that much trouble? EDIT: just noticed it's the agency he signed with, and not the record label. Yeah. The record industry is dead. It's gonna turn away so many future artists because the lack of money to sustain your career might not be there. Right now we are seeing the end of long established acts who can still push some units just because of the brand name but bands coming up now? Good luck. Few, if any, will go platinum or multi plantinum. I'm still shocked Adele was able to break Be Here Now's record. Why did all those people buy albums in record numbers??? Already declining sales for artists across the board and massive piracy. did she actually break it? I thought she didnt manage it in the end? again though it doesnt matter, different times, BHN managed those numbers in a time without the ease of downloading tracks from your own front room. cant play two separate games with different rules and say the one with more sales opportunities beat the other one, basically cheating.
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Post by The Escapist on Oct 25, 2016 11:15:00 GMT -5
Yeah. The record industry is dead. It's gonna turn away so many future artists because the lack of money to sustain your career might not be there. Right now we are seeing the end of long established acts who can still push some units just because of the brand name but bands coming up now? Good luck. Few, if any, will go platinum or multi plantinum. I'm still shocked Adele was able to break Be Here Now's record. Why did all those people buy albums in record numbers??? Already declining sales for artists across the board and massive piracy. did she actually break it? I thought she didnt manage it in the end? again though it doesnt matter, different times, BHN managed those numbers in a time without the ease of downloading tracks from your own front room. She did and didn't. She sold more in a "calendar week" i.e before the next Monday, but that gave her more time than Oasis. Over the first seven days, Oasis sold more. So, really, Be Here Now is still the fastest selling album ever.
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Post by bastardnumber1 on Oct 25, 2016 11:19:26 GMT -5
Yeah. The record industry is dead. It's gonna turn away so many future artists because the lack of money to sustain your career might not be there. Right now we are seeing the end of long established acts who can still push some units just because of the brand name but bands coming up now? Good luck. Few, if any, will go platinum or multi plantinum. I'm still shocked Adele was able to break Be Here Now's record. Why did all those people buy albums in record numbers??? Already declining sales for artists across the board and massive piracy. did she actually break it? I thought she didnt manage it in the end? again though it doesnt matter, different times, BHN managed those numbers in a time without the ease of downloading tracks from your own front room. cant play two separate games with different rules and say the one with more sales opportunities beat the other one, basically cheating. Officially she broke it but BHN was released on a thursday so they only had 3 days for charting - Adele had a week. Edit: www.musicbusinessworldwide.com/adele-scrubbed-oasiss-now-uk-record-books-bit-complicated/
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Post by joladella on Oct 25, 2016 11:32:52 GMT -5
What are the differences between Debbie, Warner Bros and Coda? Could somebody explain? I still don't know how it works, just like Oasis: Big Brother, Ignition, Marcus Russell? Debbie Gwyther and Marcus Russell are the managers. Ignition and Coda are the agencies. Warner Bros and Big Brother are the record companies. According to that article: Liam: Management: Debbie Gwyther and UROK Booking Agency: Coda Label: Warner UK Noel: Management: Marcus Russell (Ignition) Booking Agency: Primary Talent International Label: Sour Mash With the Booking Agency responsible for touring? At least, that's how I read it.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 25, 2016 11:40:16 GMT -5
Im sure debbie can manage Liam, afterall she did a great job of "managing" him on the BE tour...
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Post by Deleted on Oct 25, 2016 12:03:25 GMT -5
liam signing a record deal is exciting news indeed, and not to derail the thread or anything but 12,000 units... is the music industry really in that much trouble? EDIT: just noticed it's the agency he signed with, and not the record label. Yeah. The record industry is dead. It's gonna turn away so many future artists because the lack of money to sustain your career might not be there. Right now we are seeing the end of long established acts who can still push some units just because of the brand name but bands coming up now? Good luck. Few, if any, will go platinum or multi plantinum. I'm still shocked Adele was able to break Be Here Now's record. Why did all those people buy albums in record numbers??? Already declining sales for artists across the board and massive piracy. Adele sold 3.38 Million copies in a week in the US. She has sold over 8 million in the US alone at this point and 15+ million worldwide. "...as of October 2016, has sold over 3.1 million copies [in the UK]..." So she sold more in the US in a week, then she did in the UK in a year. Funny thing is I haven't heard anything of her in like 9 months!
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Post by Lennon2217 on Oct 25, 2016 12:09:42 GMT -5
did she actually break it? I thought she didnt manage it in the end? again though it doesnt matter, different times, BHN managed those numbers in a time without the ease of downloading tracks from your own front room. She did and didn't. She sold more in a "calendar week" i.e before the next Monday, but that gave her more time than Oasis. Over the first seven days, Oasis sold more. So, really, Be Here Now is still the fastest selling album ever. Unfortunately history will record this differently. She did break Oasis' record. If Oasis wanted to really pad their lead they shouldn't have done the bizarre Thursday release. That's on them. Adele is now the champion.
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Post by Mean Mrs. Mustard on Oct 25, 2016 12:20:11 GMT -5
Debbie Gwyther and Marcus Russell are the managers. Ignition and Coda are the agencies. Warner Bros and Big Brother are the record companies. According to that article: Liam: Management: Debbie Gwyther and UROK Booking Agency: Coda Label: Warner UK Noel: Management: Marcus Russell (Ignition) Booking Agency: Primary Talent International Label: Sour Mash With the Booking Agency responsible for touring? At least, that's how I read it. I was talking about Oasis though, not Noel solo. Anyway, I don't know.
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Post by guigsysEstring on Oct 26, 2016 6:14:59 GMT -5
Debbie Gwyther and Marcus Russell are the managers. Ignition and Coda are the agencies. Warner Bros and Big Brother are the record companies. According to that article: Liam: Management: Debbie Gwyther and UROK Booking Agency: Coda Label: Warner UK Noel: Management: Marcus Russell (Ignition) Booking Agency: Primary Talent International Label: Sour Mash With the Booking Agency responsible for touring? At least, that's how I read it. That's right, with the booking agency involved in the detailed work for tours (logistics, promotions, insurance, etc.) , although I would assume Noel and probably Liam will be their own actual promoters in the same way Noise and Confusion (Touring) Ltd paid the costs and took the bulk of the monies for Oasis tours.
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Post by matt on Oct 26, 2016 7:16:38 GMT -5
did she actually break it? I thought she didnt manage it in the end? again though it doesnt matter, different times, BHN managed those numbers in a time without the ease of downloading tracks from your own front room. She did and didn't. She sold more in a "calendar week" i.e before the next Monday, but that gave her more time than Oasis. Over the first seven days, Oasis sold more. So, really, Be Here Now is still the fastest selling album ever. Yeah, that looks a good a sticker on the album more than anything actually meaningful. Just like her music, the marketing is shallow crap that doesn't reveal anything groundbreaking.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 26, 2016 7:36:18 GMT -5
it just shows the magnitude of be here now though tbh, the fact that adeles record only just managed to beat it in 2015 a full 18 years after the release of BHN with all the added marketing opportunities nowadays such as youtube, itunes, facebook, twitter blah blah along with the different extended release days and calender chart positions is actually quite laughable.
I can understand there being more piracy with the internet etc and maybe things like youtube actually hurt sales so in that respect its still impressive the numbers she pulled in but BHN released in the stone age in comparison, music has never been so easy to get hold of.
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Post by Lennon2217 on Oct 26, 2016 7:55:01 GMT -5
it just shows the magnitude of be here now though tbh, the fact that adeles record only just managed to beat it in 2015 a full 18 years after the release of BHN with all the added marketing opportunities nowadays such as youtube, itunes, facebook, twitter blah blah along with the different extended release days and calender chart positions is actually quite laughable. I can understand there being more piracy with the internet etc and maybe things like youtube actually hurt sales so in that respect its still impressive the numbers she pulled in but BHN released in the stone age in comparison, music has never been so easy to get hold of. It's all relative though. In 1997 Oasis saturated the market place. Promotions everywhere. TV, radio, magazines, billboards. Yes no social media and a basic internet but that just means the avenues I mentioned earlier had more power, more eyeballs on them. Oasis ran those outlets to death. I'm still impressed Adele was able to do that kind of business in 2016. I guess people wanted to take part in the hype and madness of her new LP.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 26, 2016 7:59:49 GMT -5
it just shows the magnitude of be here now though tbh, the fact that adeles record only just managed to beat it in 2015 a full 18 years after the release of BHN with all the added marketing opportunities nowadays such as youtube, itunes, facebook, twitter blah blah along with the different extended release days and calender chart positions is actually quite laughable. I can understand there being more piracy with the internet etc and maybe things like youtube actually hurt sales so in that respect its still impressive the numbers she pulled in but BHN released in the stone age in comparison, music has never been so easy to get hold of. It's all relative though. In 1997 Oasis saturated the market place. Promotions everywhere. TV, radio, magazines, billboards. Yes no social media and a basic internet but that just means the avenues I mentioned earlier had more power, more eyeballs on them. Oasis ran those outlets to death. I'm still impressed Adele was able to do that kind of business in 2016. I guess people wanted to take part in the hype and madness of her new LP. FOMO. In the case of Adele... the internet aided her massively. Roughly 50% of all her first week album sales were digital sales. Something like 400,000 downloads on iTunes alone. Ease of purchase matters. I read that they shipped something like 3 million physical copies of the record in the US, and she sold 3.38 million.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 26, 2016 8:56:04 GMT -5
i'll just leave this here:
BE HERE NOW >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 25
thanks.
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Post by The Invisible Sun on Oct 26, 2016 10:19:23 GMT -5
Awesome
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Post by Lennon2217 on Oct 26, 2016 10:26:20 GMT -5
It's all relative though. In 1997 Oasis saturated the market place. Promotions everywhere. TV, radio, magazines, billboards. Yes no social media and a basic internet but that just means the avenues I mentioned earlier had more power, more eyeballs on them. Oasis ran those outlets to death. I'm still impressed Adele was able to do that kind of business in 2016. I guess people wanted to take part in the hype and madness of her new LP. FOMO. In the case of Adele... the internet aided her massively. Roughly 50% of all her first week album sales were digital sales. Something like 400,000 downloads on iTunes alone. Ease of purchase matters. I read that they shipped something like 3 million physical copies of the record in the US, and she sold 3.38 million. Ease of purchase definitely matters. Back in the 90s CDs were everywhere. I had 3 music stores at my mall growing up. None exist now. You could also buy CDs at Best Buy, Walmart, target, blockbuster, Starbucks/coffee shops and the grocery store. In 2016 you can easily just google an album name and download it in 20 min. It's all relative.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 26, 2016 16:23:03 GMT -5
FOMO. In the case of Adele... the internet aided her massively. Roughly 50% of all her first week album sales were digital sales. Something like 400,000 downloads on iTunes alone. Ease of purchase matters. I read that they shipped something like 3 million physical copies of the record in the US, and she sold 3.38 million. Ease of purchase definitely matters. Back in the 90s CDs were everywhere. I had 3 music stores at my mall growing up. None exist now. You could also buy CDs at Best Buy, Walmart, target, blockbuster, Starbucks/coffee shops and the grocery store. In 2016 you can easily just google an album name and download it in 20 min. It's all relative. yes sir. nowadays when i want to buy a cd i just get it off amazon. i don't even waste my time going to a best buy store, because i know they won't have it. that being said, i'm going to a record show this sunday, i'm fucking pumped! 'record show days' are like christmas mornings to me man, i love them.
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Post by ninestonecowboy on Oct 28, 2016 17:59:40 GMT -5
it just shows the magnitude of be here now though tbh, the fact that adeles record only just managed to beat it in 2015 a full 18 years after the release of BHN with all the added marketing opportunities nowadays such as youtube, itunes, facebook, twitter blah blah along with the different extended release days and calender chart positions is actually quite laughable. I can understand there being more piracy with the internet etc and maybe things like youtube actually hurt sales so in that respect its still impressive the numbers she pulled in but BHN released in the stone age in comparison, music has never been so easy to get hold of. It's all relative though. In 1997 Oasis saturated the market place. Promotions everywhere. TV, radio, magazines, billboards. Yes no social media and a basic internet but that just means the avenues I mentioned earlier had more power, more eyeballs on them. Oasis ran those outlets to death. I'm still impressed Adele was able to do that kind of business in 2016. I guess people wanted to take part in the hype and madness of her new LP. Yeah, plus Adele did that amount of sales in an era of streaming services, illegal downloads etc. Her music is cack, but the amount of records she sold in this era is astounding. At the end of the day though, her music has mass appeal to squares of all ages and definitely appeals to a bunch of mid 40's and 50's people who have sex in the missionary position only and still by CD's in Sainsbury's from the top 20 shelf. In general though, the record industry is dead. 12,000 sales to get you in the top 5 would have been unheard of before.
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Post by spaneli on Oct 29, 2016 0:59:55 GMT -5
it just shows the magnitude of be here now though tbh, the fact that adeles record only just managed to beat it in 2015 a full 18 years after the release of BHN with all the added marketing opportunities nowadays such as youtube, itunes, facebook, twitter blah blah along with the different extended release days and calender chart positions is actually quite laughable. I can understand there being more piracy with the internet etc and maybe things like youtube actually hurt sales so in that respect its still impressive the numbers she pulled in but BHN released in the stone age in comparison, music has never been so easy to get hold of. I would say Adele beating the record is far more impressive than Oasis setting the record. Oasis existed in a moment where selling 10 million albums was "relatively" easy. How many artists actually sell 10 mill+ albums today? Earlier you mentioned that Adele has more avenues. However, fans have more avenues to NOT pay for music. In Oasis' time you were forced to buy the album if you wanted to own it. That's the only marketing tool one needs. The control of supply for a demand. Oasis operated in a time where the artist could control the supply. That is not the case now. The fans control the supply. Whereas before you could easily reach any audience because of group think, audiences have been formed into cliques which require more targeted strategies. The internet has given more options for promoting, but that also means more bases you have to cover and more detail in how you approach audiences. It has its own set of challenges, some greater than what was faced in the 90's. The fact that so many people decided to buy an album rather than stealing it when stealing it was only a few clicks away is astounding. That freedom just wasn't present in the 90's. That's a game changer that can't be brushed aside. That outweighs whatever social media attack you have. People have a real choice not to buy your album. That choice wasn't there in the 90's. Hence, higher album sales. Be Here Now wasn't even the highest selling in 1997 in the UK. What does that tell you? It says that albums were selling like hot cakes. Be Here Now held that record for a long time, but it might have held that record more because of declining sales making it ever more impossible to match it. The market place created a long standing record. If record sales had stayed at their peak in the 90's well into the 2000's, I'm pretty sure that record would have fallen much quicker. So, I don't think it accurately shows the magnitude of BHN, more the magnitude of the decline of record sales to the point where BHN could almost never be matched. If album sales stayed relatively the same throughout the 2000's, hell, a band like Coldplay would have had a great chance to beat. What Adele did was stunning. No two ways about it.
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