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Post by carlober on Apr 26, 2020 15:21:51 GMT -5
My top 10 of u2 songs. Or atleast for now Where the streets have no name One A sort of Homecoming Bullet the blue sky With or without you Beautiful Day Moment of Surrender Bad Lemon Please The Unforgettable Fire Where The Streets Have No Name Running To Stand Still One Until The End of The World Ultraviolet Lady With The Spinning Head Lemon Hold Me, Thrill Me, Kiss Me, Kill Me Discotheque Beautiful Day Great lists Manualex glider mkoasis Lennon2217 matt. Here's mine (in alphabetical order): A Sort of Homecoming Beautiful Day Even Better Than the Real Thing Gone I Will Follow New Year's Day Pride (In the Name of Love) The Unforgettable Fire Ultraviolet (Light My Way) Where the Streets Have No Name
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Post by theyknowwhatimean on Apr 26, 2020 16:27:00 GMT -5
Controversial opinion time....... but having just been reading the apparent rivalry between the two bands, I will never understand The Beatles v Stones debate. It shouldn’t be a rivalry let alone a debate. The Beatles were so far superior, for the quality and frequent beauty of their songs, their emotional depths, innovations, variety, arrangements and vocal harmonies. All this was lacking in The Stones music which was just derivative RnB sung by a technically mediocre singer, albeit with attitude and swagger. Putting The Stones on a pedestal with The Beatles simply makes them the most overrated band of all time. This is very harsh. I don't know how you can dismiss the likes of 'Paint It Black' and 'Sympathy for the Devil' as derivative of RnB. The first is one of the most unique pop records of all time, one of 1960s psychedelic rock's finest moments; the second is a musical and lyrical tour de force that resists categorisation as forcibly as anything The Beatles did. They might not have pushed the envelope as often as Jagger would have liked--Keith's musical traditionalism getting in the way perhaps--but that doesn't mean they never did, or that they couldn't.
Also, while Mick's voice was never the Stones' strongest point, he's actually very good technically. That's why he still has a voice left, unlike McCartney. Listen to their new tune 'Living in a Ghost Town', or the blues covers album they released in 2016. No doubt there's been some digital manipulation there, but he's still doing his job admirably. He obviously knows about singing in the mask, because there's plenty of nasality to his voice which makes it cut through nicely; and that forward placement means his voice isn't worn down the same as if he was constantly putting pressure on his throat (like Macca or our Liam).
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Post by World71R on Apr 26, 2020 18:21:15 GMT -5
The Unforgettable Fire Where The Streets Have No Name Running To Stand Still One Until The End of The World Ultraviolet Lady With The Spinning Head Lemon Hold Me, Thrill Me, Kiss Me, Kill Me Discotheque Beautiful Day Great lists Manualex glider mkoasis Lennon2217 matt . Here's mine (in alphabetical order): A Sort of Homecoming Beautiful Day Even Better Than the Real Thing Gone I Will Follow New Year's Day Pride (In the Name of Love) The Unforgettable Fire Ultraviolet (Light My Way) Where the Streets Have No Name I'll jump in too because I love U2. These are off the top of my head (in alphabetical order): A Sort of Homecoming Bad I Will Follow Lady With the Spinning Head (and by extension, the two songs it spawned; The Fly and Ultraviolet) Lemon New Year's Day Staring at the Sun (or Mofo) Until the End of the World Walk On Where the Streets Have No Name
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Post by glider on Apr 26, 2020 19:28:43 GMT -5
My top 10 of u2 songs. Or atleast for now Where the streets have no name One A sort of Homecoming Bullet the blue sky With or without you Beautiful Day Moment of Surrender Bad Lemon Please No order Stay (Faraway, So Close!) In A Little While Who's Gonna Ride Your Wild Horses Love Comes Tumbling Bad Staring At the Sun The First Time Walk On Until the End of the World Walk to the Water Revised after binging U2 again this weekend, and ranked: 1. Stay (Faraway, So Close) - just one of the most amazing love songs ever crafted, effortlessly put together during the chaotic creative journey of the Achtung-Zooropa-Pop era. 2. Until the End of the World 3. Who's Gonna Ride Your Wild Horses (Achtung Baby album mix) 4. Bad 5. A Sort Of Homecoming 6. The First Time 7. Love Comes Tumbling 8. Like A Song 9. Walk to the Water 10. Luminous Times (Hold On To Love) Also, if Your Blue Room was released under the U2 name rather than the Passengers project, it'd be ranked in my top 5. Incredible track.
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Post by Beady’s Here Now on Apr 27, 2020 14:45:25 GMT -5
These lads are criminally underrated.
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Post by mkoasis on Apr 27, 2020 18:43:04 GMT -5
Also, I can't take seriously any Best of U2 list that doesn't have A Sort of Homecoming or Numb on it. The former for its steady, uncertain, ethereal beauty, and the latter for its unnerving, unsettling brilliance. A sort of homecoming was #11 in my list. Brilliant piece of music. That album is my favourite U2 album. Even though Joshua Tree has the big hitters, The Unforgettable Fire is a more consistent and enjoyable listen from start to end for me. As great as Joshua Tree is, it has the unfortunate effect of being very top-heavy.
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Post by underneaththesky on Apr 27, 2020 19:26:04 GMT -5
some weird talk about the Stones from few people around here
go listen to Sticky Fingers and OTHER stuff .. means NO Satisfaction or start me up or out of my cloud or whatever you think the Stones ARE
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Post by glider on Apr 27, 2020 20:14:10 GMT -5
Also, I can't take seriously any Best of U2 list that doesn't have A Sort of Homecoming or Numb on it. The former for its steady, uncertain, ethereal beauty, and the latter for its unnerving, unsettling brilliance. A sort of homecoming was #11 in my list. Brilliant piece of music. That album is my favourite U2 album. Even though Joshua Tree has the big hitters, The Unforgettable Fire is a more consistent and enjoyable listen from start to end for me. As great as Joshua Tree is, it has the unfortunate effect of being very top-heavy. Elvis Presley and America is a gem. 6 minutes and 25 seconds of Bono singing anything that comes to mind with a hypnotic jam in the background.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 27, 2020 20:27:45 GMT -5
I didn't realise this song was from 1965. I was somehow sure it was from the 1967 psychedelic wave but it seems to actually precede it.
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Post by mimmihopps on Apr 30, 2020 5:16:25 GMT -5
What happened to The Coral these days? I was expecting them to tour in Europe when the new album came out, but the last time when I saw them was 4 years ago. I've seen them 4 times and still love "The Butterfly House". Hope to see them soon again.
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Post by underneaththesky on Apr 30, 2020 6:53:17 GMT -5
What happened to The Coral these days? I was expecting them to tour in Europe when the new album came out, but the last time when I saw them was 4 years ago. I've seen them 4 times and still love "The Butterfly House". Hope to see them soon again. the singer played Married With Children (lockdown version) few days ago
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Post by mimmihopps on Apr 30, 2020 8:07:02 GMT -5
What happened to The Coral these days? I was expecting them to tour in Europe when the new album came out, but the last time when I saw them was 4 years ago. I've seen them 4 times and still love "The Butterfly House". Hope to see them soon again. the singer played Married With Children (lockdown version) few days ago Oh nice. Gonna check it.
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Post by Lennon2217 on Apr 30, 2020 9:49:38 GMT -5
What happened to The Coral these days? I was expecting them to tour in Europe when the new album came out, but the last time when I saw them was 4 years ago. I've seen them 4 times and still love "The Butterfly House". Hope to see them soon again. They are working on a new album. Should be out soon. A new single at least. You think you got it bad? I had tickets to see The Coral at the Mercury Lounge in NYC back in September 2007. A week before they canceled their USA tour and supporting slot for the Arctic Monkeys in America. No Coral for me. I don't think they have been to America since like 2005.
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Post by mimmihopps on Apr 30, 2020 13:04:02 GMT -5
What happened to The Coral these days? I was expecting them to tour in Europe when the new album came out, but the last time when I saw them was 4 years ago. I've seen them 4 times and still love "The Butterfly House". Hope to see them soon again. They are working on a new album. Should be out soon. A new single at least. You think you got it bad? I had tickets to see The Coral at the Mercury Lounge in NYC back in September 2007. A week before they canceled their USA tour and supporting slot for the Arctic Monkeys in America. No Coral for me. I don't think they have been to America since like 2005. Are they well known in the US? I doubt to be honest.
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Post by matt on Apr 30, 2020 13:55:21 GMT -5
One of the best covers ever of Blondie from Franz Ferdinand.
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Post by matt on Apr 30, 2020 13:56:21 GMT -5
They are working on a new album. Should be out soon. A new single at least. You think you got it bad? I had tickets to see The Coral at the Mercury Lounge in NYC back in September 2007. A week before they canceled their USA tour and supporting slot for the Arctic Monkeys in America. No Coral for me. I don't think they have been to America since like 2005. Are they well known in the US? I doubt to be honest. Dreaming Of You is a bit of a cross-over hit I think Lennon2217? Heard it on quite a few US TV shows. That first album of theirs in particular is great. On that note, I read that The Coral's mainstay studio Parr Street Studios (where the Bunnymen did Ocean Rain, Coldplay did Rush of Blood, and Doves did Last Broadcast) is facing demolition. Hope they save it - the desecration of cultural heritage for the sake of luxury flats is sickening. www.nme.com/news/music/liverpool-legendary-parr-street-studios-look-set-to-be-demolished-2657247
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Post by Deleted on May 1, 2020 4:39:31 GMT -5
I love Brian Jonestown Massacre. Woke up from my friends' couch this morning while they were playing Strung Out In Heaven album. What a great way to start your day I don't think I've even heard this one but it already sounds like a classic to me, love their discography.
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Post by Mean Mrs. Mustard on May 1, 2020 11:47:46 GMT -5
I didn't realise this song was from 1965. I was somehow sure it was from the 1967 psychedelic wave but it seems to actually precede it. Written by Graham Gouldman who would later go on to be in 10CC. He also wrote For Your Love, and some other 60s classics such as No Milk Today. It's actually a shame so little people know he was such a succesful songwriter back then.
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Post by igotflair on May 1, 2020 13:14:29 GMT -5
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Post by guigsysEstring on May 1, 2020 17:20:38 GMT -5
Speaking of 'Butterfly House' I had that and 'Roots & Echoes' on today, both still great albums for me
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Post by mystoryisgory on May 1, 2020 18:30:27 GMT -5
Also, I can't take seriously any Best of U2 list that doesn't have A Sort of Homecoming or Numb on it. The former for its steady, uncertain, ethereal beauty, and the latter for its unnerving, unsettling brilliance. A sort of homecoming was #11 in my list. Brilliant piece of music. That album is my favourite U2 album. Even though Joshua Tree has the big hitters, The Unforgettable Fire is a more consistent and enjoyable listen from start to end for me. As great as Joshua Tree is, it has the unfortunate effect of being very top-heavy. The Unforgettable Fire is a great shout. Some days it's also my favorite U2 album. Recently, I've shifted quite far in favor of Zooropa being their strongest work though. Its themes of technology taking over our lives were more than just a little prescient, there's a far greater overflowing of creativity than seen before or after, the production is sleeker and more adventurous than Achtung Baby, and sounds more finished and complete than anything on Pop. It's all too often overlooked and underrated because it's much more a texture/mood/experimental album than the anthems U2 is famous for, but it was here that U2 finally shed The Joshua Tree creatively and made the anti-U2 album, not on Achtung Baby. People have been seeing Pop is a better light lately, and it's about time we do the same for Zooropa too. Bono and the rest of the band shit on Zooropa, but I think that's because they know they'll never top it.
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Post by World71R on May 1, 2020 23:10:56 GMT -5
A sort of homecoming was #11 in my list. Brilliant piece of music. That album is my favourite U2 album. Even though Joshua Tree has the big hitters, The Unforgettable Fire is a more consistent and enjoyable listen from start to end for me. As great as Joshua Tree is, it has the unfortunate effect of being very top-heavy. The Unforgettable Fire is a great shout. Some days it's also my favorite U2 album. Recently, I've shifted quite far in favor of Zooropa being their strongest work though. Its themes of technology taking over our lives were more than just a little prescient, there's a far greater overflowing of creativity than seen before or after, the production is sleeker and more adventurous than Achtung Baby, and sounds more finished and complete than anything on Pop. It's all too often overlooked and underrated because it's much more a texture/mood/experimental album than the anthems U2 is famous for, but it was here that U2 finally shed The Joshua Tree creatively and made the anti-U2 album, not on Achtung Baby. People have been seeing Pop is a better light lately, and it's about time we do the same for Zooropa too. Bono and the rest of the band shit on Zooropa, but I think that's because they know they'll never top it. I love '90s U2 so much. Like, TJT is great and all, but it's just so much fun diving into such a different sound for U2 and all the unique textures that many other rock bands weren't really touching on, as this was the decade to go more raw with the sound. U2 was out there dabbling in electronica, trip hop, techno, and even opera, while still staying true to some of their ambient and rock trappings. It was a great time for the band sonically. Whenever I listen to one track from any of those albums, I find myself putting on at least one or two other tracks from the album after that. It's just great to dive into. The irony present, the sonic landscapes, I love it. Everyone who says U2 made the same shit for 30 years needs to go listen to their progression from Boy to Pop, and be amazed.
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Post by matt on May 2, 2020 6:00:37 GMT -5
Controversial opinion time....... but having just been reading the apparent rivalry between the two bands, I will never understand The Beatles v Stones debate. It shouldn’t be a rivalry let alone a debate. The Beatles were so far superior, for the quality and frequent beauty of their songs, their emotional depths, innovations, variety, arrangements and vocal harmonies. All this was lacking in The Stones music which was just derivative RnB sung by a technically mediocre singer, albeit with attitude and swagger. Putting The Stones on a pedestal with The Beatles simply makes them the most overrated band of all time. This is very harsh. I don't know how you can dismiss the likes of 'Paint It Black' and 'Sympathy for the Devil' as derivative of RnB. The first is one of the most unique pop records of all time, one of 1960s psychedelic rock's finest moments; the second is a musical and lyrical tour de force that resists categorisation as forcibly as anything The Beatles did. They might not have pushed the envelope as often as Jagger would have liked--Keith's musical traditionalism getting in the way perhaps--but that doesn't mean they never did, or that they couldn't.
Also, while Mick's voice was never the Stones' strongest point, he's actually very good technically. That's why he still has a voice left, unlike McCartney. Listen to their new tune 'Living in a Ghost Town', or the blues covers album they released in 2016. No doubt there's been some digital manipulation there, but he's still doing his job admirably. He obviously knows about singing in the mask, because there's plenty of nasality to his voice which makes it cut through nicely; and that forward placement means his voice isn't worn down the same as if he was constantly putting pressure on his throat (like Macca or our Liam).
I admit that’s as sensationalist a quote as I’ve ever written, and I don’t deny their impact or greatness. I like a handful of their songs, but they just never spark the imagination. One of my biggest problems is the fact they just plunder the American songbook - where Jaggers singing American accent comes from I don’t know. I like The Beatles identity a lot more, even in their Beatlemania phase when even then they utilised influences far more wide ranging in their songs than The Stones. There was nothing contrived and they never ran away from their heritage either. They were far more original, sang in their English accents, weren’t scared of tapping into old English pop culture for inspiration, whether it be music hall or Lewis Carroll. Just far more imaginative and colourful than anything The Stones ever did.
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Post by The Crimson Rambler on May 2, 2020 7:43:40 GMT -5
I've recently been listening The Velvet Underground to fill in some gaps which very much needed to filled and it's amazing to hear how far ahead of they really were. Some parallels that immediately came to mind...
The Gift - White Light/White Heat [1968]
The Murder Mystery - The Velvet Underground [1969]
The riff and laid back talking over it is very late/80s early 90s. Slint, Sonic Youth, etc. In fact the riff reminds me of this:
Sister Ray - White Light/White Heat [1968]
Proto-punk, The Stooges. Contemporary to that movement. The future of what was was to come.
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Post by matt on May 2, 2020 10:05:19 GMT -5
The Unforgettable Fire is a great shout. Some days it's also my favorite U2 album. Recently, I've shifted quite far in favor of Zooropa being their strongest work though. Its themes of technology taking over our lives were more than just a little prescient, there's a far greater overflowing of creativity than seen before or after, the production is sleeker and more adventurous than Achtung Baby, and sounds more finished and complete than anything on Pop. It's all too often overlooked and underrated because it's much more a texture/mood/experimental album than the anthems U2 is famous for, but it was here that U2 finally shed The Joshua Tree creatively and made the anti-U2 album, not on Achtung Baby. People have been seeing Pop is a better light lately, and it's about time we do the same for Zooropa too. Bono and the rest of the band shit on Zooropa, but I think that's because they know they'll never top it. I love '90s U2 so much. Like, TJT is great and all, but it's just so much fun diving into such a different sound for U2 and all the unique textures that many other rock bands weren't really touching on, as this was the decade to go more raw with the sound. U2 was out there dabbling in electronica, trip hop, techno, and even opera, while still staying true to some of their ambient and rock trappings. It was a great time for the band sonically. Whenever I listen to one track from any of those albums, I find myself putting on at least one or two other tracks from the album after that. It's just great to dive into. The irony present, the sonic landscapes, I love it. Everyone who says U2 made the same shit for 30 years needs to go listen to their progression from Boy to Pop, and be amazed. And one of the most fascinating things is they achieved such progression despite being a technically limited band. And yet they prove that doesn't deter great art. What The Edge lacks in technique he makes up for in vision and inventiveness. Like a great artist that doesn't have to be a great painter, The Edge is also a great guitarist for that vision and unique style. Reading his interviews from back in the day, he comes off as an extremely intelligent when placing so much emphasis on the aesthetics of their sound. His ability to craft soundscapes and weave various textures throughout the music really is peerless. Without that creative instinct, U2 wouldn't have evolved and would have just remained a post-punk band with their angular guitar riffs from the first three albums (although I think Boy is the perfect example of a great album without great musicianship where it's rawness gives it such an energy).
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