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Post by megyesitomate on May 20, 2021 4:38:55 GMT -5
Once again, FUCK the acoustic set in the middle of the 1998 BHN gig setlists. These were amazing. Check out Budokan one on Youtube with Noel's version of Help or Chicago when Noel did To Be Someone, incredible. They didn’t play any of those in South America for example, did they. Nobody’s interested in Don’t Go Away or Fade In-Out acoustically. If Liam wanted a bit of a rest in the middle of the gig, Noel should’ve just played a couple of the BHN b-sides, The Masterplan. etc.
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Post by eva on May 20, 2021 5:49:50 GMT -5
These were amazing. Check out Budokan one on Youtube with Noel's version of Help or Chicago when Noel did To Be Someone, incredible. They didn’t play any of those in South America for example, did they. Nobody’s interested in Don’t Go Away or Fade In-Out acoustically. If Liam wanted a bit of a rest in the middle of the gig, Noel should’ve just played a couple of the BHN b-sides, The Masterplan. etc. they absolutely did
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Post by defmaybe00 on May 20, 2021 6:01:47 GMT -5
It's funny how many people see Noel as calmer person and Liam as lunatic and what most people seem to forget that Liam is five years younger. God knows what Noel would do if he became rich and famous before 27. He was heavy drug user from when he was 27 years old to 31 and Liam was 31 in 2003, when all madness stopped long time ago. Liam was actually more normal and calmer than Noel when he was 27,28,29,30 and 31 years old. Noel is calmer, as a person, in the sense that he's more reflective, less impulsive and with a temper not as quick The rest of it, that's obviously the point ain't it? There's no counterproof he would've been wilder than Liam if he was younger, but it's clear success had a different impact on him because of when and how he got it Noel had already worked in the biz and seen the world when they got famous, and he also was the spokerperson for the band and the one that usually managed the non musical side, so he was a bit more ready for it I always thought overall they both handled it way better than many would've, it was crazy, happened so quick and they came from nothing Yeah drugs and parties, fair enough, but normal people get stuck into them as well
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Post by dampcottage on May 20, 2021 6:35:07 GMT -5
It's funny how many people see Noel as calmer person and Liam as lunatic and what most people seem to forget that Liam is five years younger. God knows what Noel would do if he became rich and famous before 27. He was heavy drug user from when he was 27 years old to 31 and Liam was 31 in 2003, when all madness stopped long time ago. Liam was actually more normal and calmer than Noel when he was 27,28,29,30 and 31 years old. Noel is calmer, as a person, in the sense that he's more reflective, less impulsive and with a temper not as quick The rest of it, that's obviously the point ain't it? There's no counterproof he would've been wilder than Liam if he was younger, but it's clear success had a different impact on him because of when and how he got it Noel had already worked in the biz and seen the world when they got famous, and he also was the spokerperson for the band and the one that usually managed the non musical side, so he was a bit more ready for it I always thought overall they both handled it way better than many would've, it was crazy, happened so quick and they came from nothing Yeah drugs and parties, fair enough, but normal people get stuck into them as well Your quite right, I've been getting "stuck in" for a over 20 years now an I'm certainly not rich or famous! Also yes Liam is 5 years younger, but doesn't that mean that Noel had 5 years more? I'd imagine being a roadie for the inspiral carpets in the early 90s opened up a few opportunities.....
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Post by oasisserbia on May 20, 2021 7:11:06 GMT -5
Yes, Noel is calmer as a person but I am talking more about some stuff like Noel's no drinking and no drugs rules which is why Bonehead, for example, left Oasis. Yes, Liam needed to slow down but it wasn't like he was going to quit forever. As we can see, he is still drinking in 2021. Bonehead was maybe a bit of dick but I don't know, to me it seems that those were Noel's rules because he quit drugs and he had that ex-smoker complex. And Oasis were basically dead after that, Bonehead left, Guigsy left and Oasis spirit was dead. And Liam was 27 then just like Noel was when DM came out. For Noel, party was just starting when he was 27, for Liam it was over. I am not saying that they should let Liam overdose but they should all just slow down a bit. Noel was actually the one who was worse than everyone and then when he quit because he had panic attacks and everything, he made everyone to act like him. I mean, that's how we end up having Andy fucking Bell in Oasis. 31 years old Liam was more mature and calm than 31 years old Noel
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Post by His Royal Noelness on May 20, 2021 9:54:16 GMT -5
Yes, Noel is calmer as a person but I am talking more about some stuff like Noel's no drinking and no drugs rules which is why Bonehead, for example, left Oasis. Yes, Liam needed to slow down but it wasn't like he was going to quit forever. As we can see, he is still drinking in 2021. Bonehead was maybe a bit of dick but I don't know, to me it seems that those were Noel's rules because he quit drugs and he had that ex-smoker complex. And Oasis were basically dead after that, Bonehead left, Guigsy left and Oasis spirit was dead. And Liam was 27 then just like Noel was when DM came out. For Noel, party was just starting when he was 27, for Liam it was over. I am not saying that they should let Liam overdose but they should all just slow down a bit. Noel was actually the one who was worse than everyone and then when he quit because he had panic attacks and everything, he made everyone to act like him. I mean, that's how we end up having Andy fucking Bell in Oasis. 31 years old Liam was more mature and calm than 31 years old Noel Indoor think with the no drink thing it was Noel saying “if I’m not having fun then none of you can”. The recording of Be Here Now was an absolute circus and for the next album Noel wanted it to be more relaxed and structured. The only way to keep Liam off the sauce was if they were all off it and Bonehead apparently wasn’t really up for it. The fun probably was gone out of it at that stage and they probably needed to take a break but ah well. Liam and Bonehead are bad influences on each other 😂
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Post by His Royal Noelness on May 20, 2021 10:00:21 GMT -5
And poor Andy gets a lot of flack on here for no real reason. He’s the quiet one is all.
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Post by stinenat on May 20, 2021 11:12:06 GMT -5
Had Noel gone through with the 'Be Here Now Rethink' idea this would've been my proposal for the album cover. I think it makes for a great serene reflection on the end of Britpop-era, edits out all of the nonsense whilst still capturing the spirit of the record. Massive love for this post! It would also be a perfect capturing of the album. This is a stronger photo than the BHN album cover which is over-composed with too many props. This photo makes a singular point and has a nice composition to it. It really would be the perfect visual metaphor for BHN Re-think.
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Post by GlastoEls on May 20, 2021 11:32:10 GMT -5
Massive love for this post! It would also be a perfect capturing of the album. This is a stronger photo than the BHN album cover which is over-composed with too many props. This photo makes a singular point and has a nice composition to it. It really would be the perfect visual metaphor for BHN Re-think. Yes, less is more definitely here!
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Post by tiger40 on May 20, 2021 12:53:15 GMT -5
I can't understand the flack which Andy Bell gets on here because he's very talented and yes, he wrote The Nature Of Reality and A Quick Peep but Turn Up The Sun, Keep The Dream Alive and Thankyou For The Good Times are all good songs.
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Post by underneaththesky on May 20, 2021 13:31:53 GMT -5
LEAVE BHN ALONE
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Post by GlastoEls on May 20, 2021 15:22:20 GMT -5
I can't understand the flack which Andy Bell gets on here because he's very talented and yes, he wrote The Nature Of Reality and A Quick Peep but Turn Up The Sun, Keep The Dream Alive and Thankyou For The Good Times are all good songs. Let alone four brilliant Ride albums. You could easily argue the best two post Oasis albums are Weather Diaries and This Is Not A Safe Place!
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Post by girllikeabomb on May 20, 2021 16:10:42 GMT -5
I always thought overall they both handled it way better than many would've, it was crazy, happened so quick and they came from nothingYeah drugs and parties, fair enough, but normal people get stuck into them as well I have a particular fascination with how people handle sudden meteoric fame from humble backgrounds, and think this POV is not explored enough when it comes to Oasis. Though much is rightfully made of the rock and roll anarchy they symbolized, they (so long as "they" means Liam and Noel) did a walk a very thin tightrope without completely imploding for an exceptionally long time. Even The Beatles only lasted 8 years ...
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Post by crisppacket on May 20, 2021 16:49:45 GMT -5
It’s good to be free at the White Room ohhhh yesssss
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Post by beatlesandstones on May 21, 2021 1:46:33 GMT -5
I was just listening in the car to the remastered WMTSMG Chasing the Sun edition.. I never have been a big fan of Dave Sardy's work but his remix of Morning Glory pisses all over the inaudible crap thats on that so called "remastered" reissue. I literally got tinnitus after that.
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Post by tiger40 on May 21, 2021 12:51:29 GMT -5
Dave Sardy's remix version of Morning Glory is ok but for me you can't beat the original version.
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Post by His Royal Noelness on May 21, 2021 15:32:56 GMT -5
Watching the 10 Years of Noise and Confusion doc and it’s so weird. Noel looks soooo young! And it’s great to see Noel and Liam getting in so well at the time too.
Steve White seems pretty cool too.
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Post by Beady’s Here Now on May 22, 2021 17:05:41 GMT -5
My psychiatrist diagnosed me with Pyschoasis. She has always known that I am #madferit.
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Post by ricardogce on May 22, 2021 23:09:51 GMT -5
Rick Beato breaking down DLBIA and explaining what makes it great is brilliant viewing.
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Post by tiger40 on May 23, 2021 12:35:49 GMT -5
I absolutely love everything about Don't Look Back In Anger and always have. It's such a great song and the same goes for Wonderwall (which I'm listening to at the moment).
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Post by mkoasis on May 23, 2021 14:21:37 GMT -5
I’ll never have a bad word to say about BHN. Yes, it is excessive and overindulgent and such - definitely not everyone’s cup of tea. But I listened to Its Getting Better Man 7 times yesterday and I still didn’t feel it was enough.
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Post by megyesitomate on May 24, 2021 13:36:40 GMT -5
Put Your Money Where Your Mouth Is has actually grown a bit on me recently. Yes, the recording isn’t the cleanest and as with half of Oasis songs, the lack of a second verse frustrates me, but it’s not as bad as I always tend to remember.
Another confession of mine is that I actually like the “I can see a liar/Sitting by the fire” bit in ICSAL. It cannot be taken seriously but it works.
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Post by His Royal Noelness on May 24, 2021 13:50:38 GMT -5
Put Your Money Where Your Mouth Is has actually grown a bit on me recently. Yes, the recording isn’t the cleanest and as with half of Oasis songs, the lack of a second verse frustrates me, but it’s not as bad as I always tend to remember. Another confession of mine is that I actually like the “I can see a liar/Sitting by the fire” bit in ICSAL. It cannot be taken seriously but it works. It’s not a brilliant line but it isn’t the worst line on that album either! The fact it’s a rocker probably helps. I don’t hate it as much as I should.
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Post by Supersonic on May 25, 2021 5:27:24 GMT -5
Done an audio remaster of Where Did It All Go Wrong. Thoughts? Also converted the video to 60fps in Premiere Pro.
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Post by The Thieving Magpie on May 25, 2021 10:38:43 GMT -5
Done an audio remaster of Where Did It All Go Wrong. Thoughts? Also converted the video to 60fps in Premiere Pro. I think if you can a bit turned up acoustic guitar in the mix by using this version, would be great.
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