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Post by The Crimson Rambler on Apr 12, 2020 4:13:08 GMT -5
Personal preference time but I prefer PW's version of 'One Way Road' Totally. It wasn't apparent to me what a good song it was until I heard this version. It's the best Oasis cover I can think of off the top of my head, not that there's many.
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Post by World71R on Apr 12, 2020 13:35:44 GMT -5
I'd agree that it's superior lyrically. Musically, this feels too rushed compared to the slow build of LTBL. I feel like if you combine the tempo and flow of It's a Crime with the instrumentation of LTBL, you get the best version of this song. It's a Crime in this form sounds very unfinished musically, but the lyrics/vocal melody and tempo sounds more developed than LTBL (which is strange given the time between this demo and LTBL on DBTT) while the keyboard-heavy instrumentation on LTBL builds upon It's a Crime's ideas well. Although, I do enjoy how lovely LTBL sounds. I just wish it had kept building into Liam's verse after the mellotron interlude following Noel's middle 8. Slowing down for Liam's final verse nixes the energy a bit, as does the false ending. The studio version is far far too slow. Feels like I’m going back in time. I get that. I think that's what prevents me from listening to it more frequently. It's a pretty tune and a nice listen if you're in the right mood, and it fit well at the end of DBTT, a very feel-good album, as a sign of stability and optimism returning to the band (at least at the time). They should've put I Can See it Now after LTBL, however. That would've been a nice cherry on top. For more playbacks/listens, combining the LTBL instrumentation with the It's a Crime tempo, lyrics, and flow would've done it well. Just acoustic guitars and keyboards until Noel's middle 8, and then drums and the whole works from there on out with one whole outro and no false endings. That would've been the best version of the song.
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Post by Beady’s Here Now on Apr 12, 2020 14:37:58 GMT -5
The studio version is far far too slow. Feels like I’m going back in time. I get that. I think that's what prevents me from listening to it more frequently. It's a pretty tune and a nice listen if you're in the right mood, and it fit well at the end of DBTT, a very feel-good album, as a sign of stability and optimism returning to the band (at least at the time). They should've put I Can See it Now after LTBL, however. That would've been a nice cherry on top. For more playbacks/listens, combining the LTBL instrumentation with the It's a Crime tempo, lyrics, and flow would've done it well. Just acoustic guitars and keyboards until Noel's middle 8, and then drums and the whole works from there on out with one whole outro and no false endings. That would've been the best version of the song. Still think Noel missed a trick here - he intentionally kept LTBL stripped down, but he should have thrown the kitchen sink at it like WPTWOTWOMS. But perhaps then it wouldn’t have fit on DBTT? Needed another Noel verse too, and cut that annoying extended outro. LTBL had so much undeveloped potential.
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Post by World71R on Apr 12, 2020 15:29:52 GMT -5
I came up with an edit of Keep the Dream Alive, you can check it out here (fill in the spaces and the dots however):
https: // drive google com / file/ d / 1gps97Ap0tayaGROTsz9RLFLeIDKIhqoN / view?usp=sharing
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Post by The Thieving Magpie on Apr 12, 2020 16:20:53 GMT -5
I like Some Might Say 2002 version, it is more Anthem than original key, imo.
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Post by modxxii on Apr 13, 2020 6:13:47 GMT -5
Magic Pie: the only Oasis tune I struggle to not skip.
Edit: it's not true, also All Around the World is TOOOOOOOOOO LOOOOOOOOOOOOONG.
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Post by Beady’s Here Now on Apr 13, 2020 8:15:42 GMT -5
This is actually really good, the ending aside.
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Post by Derrick on Apr 13, 2020 19:49:31 GMT -5
This is actually really good, the ending aside. WTF did I just listen to?!? 😱🙉
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Post by Beady’s Here Now on Apr 14, 2020 14:47:20 GMT -5
I always thought the SCYHO version at MTV Superdry was this best. Nope.
Top of the Pops 2002, absolutely flawless.
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Post by themanwholivesinhell on Apr 14, 2020 17:00:39 GMT -5
I always thought the SCYHO version at MTV Superdry was this best. Nope. Top of the Pops 2002, absolutely flawless. What i like about this version is how Noels call-and-response backing vocals are a bit more natural. The telephone-like effect the album mix puts on them bring it down IMO, as they sound a bit of a novelty and it limits the verses' emotional effect. I do miss the choir during the solo though.
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Post by Zingbot on Apr 15, 2020 10:11:23 GMT -5
Im off to listen to DM. That album truly is fantastic. It'll always be underrated, because nobody has come up with words to adequately praise it.
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Post by GlastoEls on Apr 16, 2020 16:25:03 GMT -5
Im off to listen to DM. That album truly is fantastic. It'll always be underrated, because nobody has come up with words to adequately praise it. True enough, those 10/10 reviews it got probably should have been 11s.
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Post by themanwholivesinhell on Apr 16, 2020 17:05:31 GMT -5
Im off to listen to DM. That album truly is fantastic. It'll always be underrated, because nobody has come up with words to adequately praise it. True enough, those 10/10 reviews it got probably should have been 11s. Especially when you consider that Blur's The Great Escape got 12/10.
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Post by matt on Apr 16, 2020 17:09:36 GMT -5
I always thought the SCYHO version at MTV Superdry was this best. Nope. Top of the Pops 2002, absolutely flawless. What i like about this version is how Noels call-and-response backing vocals are a bit more natural. The telephone-like effect the album mix puts on them bring it down IMO, as they sound a bit of a novelty and it limits the verses' emotional effect. I do miss the choir during the solo though. I love the telephone effect in the call and response but from Noel - makes it feel more distant and ethereal.
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Post by themanwholivesinhell on Apr 16, 2020 17:52:32 GMT -5
What i like about this version is how Noels call-and-response backing vocals are a bit more natural. The telephone-like effect the album mix puts on them bring it down IMO, as they sound a bit of a novelty and it limits the verses' emotional effect. I do miss the choir during the solo though. I love the telephone effect in the call and response but from Noel - makes it feel more distant and ethereal. I can see why youd think that way. When the song first came out i thought it sounded cool (admittedly i was 6), but now i just find it a bit distracting. To me its a bit like when they overdo the echo on vocals, and you hear the end of each line repeated three more times.
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Post by Bonehead's Barber on Apr 17, 2020 6:43:50 GMT -5
I hope my new Oasis themed avatar isn't too risque.
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Post by shamumaybard on Apr 17, 2020 8:27:25 GMT -5
I hope my new Oasis themed avatar isn't too risque. Not at all, does Bonehead's Barber tend to all of Bonehead's hair?
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Post by Bonehead's Barber on Apr 17, 2020 12:39:17 GMT -5
I hope my new Oasis themed avatar isn't too risque. Not at all, does Bonehead's Barber tend to all of Bonehead's hair? Yes.
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Post by themanwholivesinhell on Apr 17, 2020 14:25:59 GMT -5
A lot of older artists’ greatest hits albums are in the UK Albums Top 40 (The Beatles, Elton John, Bob Marley, Queen, Fleetwood Mac etc), but only one of them has a studio album on there as well (FM’s Rumours).
And yet this week Oasis have two....as well as Time Flies, both Morning Glory and Definitely Maybe are in the Top 40.
Shows how popular they still are.
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Post by Bonehead's Barber on Apr 17, 2020 15:41:58 GMT -5
Oasis have become a bigger and better band since breaking up.
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Post by themanwholivesinhell on Apr 17, 2020 16:45:38 GMT -5
Oasis have become a bigger and better band since breaking up. Interesting point....I sense there would have been a 'rediscovery' phase of sorts by now even if they'd stayed together. Its happened to plenty of artists who got so big the public tired of them, but didn't stop working and finally gained respect as older artists; Elton John (Did have some big hits, but from around 1977 until getting clean in the early 90s he wasn't really a public hero. Then in the 90s he had a comeback with his Oscar win for the Lion King, his AIDS charities got more attention and he's a complete national treasure now). Paul McCartney solo (for years he was mainly known for sappy stuff like Mull of Kintyre, Ebony and Ivory and We All Stand Together. Then with the 90s Beatles rediscovery, he also became more respected solo too with acclaimed albums like Flaming Pie and Chaos and Creation In The Backyard). The Bee Gees (1980-1987 dry spell where they were VERY 'uncool', before a comeback which gained them a new level of public respect, and in the 90s they were inducted into the R&R and Songwriting Halls of Fame before Maurice Gibb died). Madonna (she'd never been truly respected as an artist, and was so big in the 80s that from about 1990-1998 she fell out of favour. Then she released the acclaimed comeback Ray of Light album in '98, and ever since has been respected as a good pop artist, even if she's not universally loved). You can even argue Oasis' had already begun, with DBTT and DOYS getting their best reviews in years. But it probably has made them bigger, i don't think they'd be quite as iconic if there wasn't a "don't know what you got til its gone" feeling about them.
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Post by World71R on Apr 18, 2020 16:16:18 GMT -5
Oasis have become a bigger and better band since breaking up. Not to mention, both brothers are happier and doing more interesting works. Plus we get twice the output than what we'd have gotten had they kept going together as Oasis.
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Post by Derrick on Apr 18, 2020 17:56:20 GMT -5
A lot of older artists’ greatest hits albums are in the UK Albums Top 40 (The Beatles, Elton John, Bob Marley, Queen, Fleetwood Mac etc), but only one of them has a studio album on there as well (FM’s Rumours). And yet this week Oasis have two....as well as Time Flies, both Morning Glory and Definitely Maybe are in the Top 40. Shows how popular they still are. I don't get why Oasis have had such a massive chart success lately, this is really incredible when you look at it closely: WTSMG's original chart run was of 143 weeks between it's release in October 1995 & until July 1998, then 10 more weeks in August-September 1998 so that's 153 weeks in the top 100 at the peak of Oasismania. But since January 2017 WTSMG has stayed in the top 100 (& not in its lower end) for 170 consecutive weeks & counting!! If you start this new chart run 6 months earlier, i.e. in July 2016, you can add 22 more weeks so that's so far 192 weeks in the top 100 in the last 4 years. What is odd is that WTSMG didn't even re-enter the charts in 2009 when Oasis broke up, you have to wait till mid-2016 to get this constant surge in sales! Same goes for "Time flies": charted for 31 weeks upon release in 2010, then sporadically re-entered the bottom of the top 100 the following years, but since January 2016 it has spent a ridiculous 221 weeks (172 & counting consecutive weeks since January 2017) in the charts! Anyone has an explanation to those incredible sales since 2016? Granted, the "Supersonic" documentary has introduced Oasis to younger generations, but I'm still puzzled that this band that split more than 10 years ago has been outselling so many new albums by successful newer artists (Billie Eilish is lagging behind WTSMG), especially considering WTSMG sold shitloads during the 90's so you'd think every UK household that remotely likes Oasis already has a copy. Streaming figures alone account for these impressive chart positions for WTSMG & "Time flies" for the last 4 years?
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Post by themanwholivesinhell on Apr 18, 2020 18:32:58 GMT -5
A lot of older artists’ greatest hits albums are in the UK Albums Top 40 (The Beatles, Elton John, Bob Marley, Queen, Fleetwood Mac etc), but only one of them has a studio album on there as well (FM’s Rumours). And yet this week Oasis have two....as well as Time Flies, both Morning Glory and Definitely Maybe are in the Top 40. Shows how popular they still are. I don't get why Oasis have had such a massive chart success lately, this is really incredible when you look at it closely: WTSMG's original chart run was of 143 weeks between it's release in October 1995 & until July 1998, then 10 more weeks in August-September 1998 so that's 153 weeks in the top 100 at the peak of Oasismania. But since January 2017 WTSMG has stayed in the top 100 (& not in its lower end) for 170 consecutive weeks & counting!! If you start this new chart run 6 months earlier, i.e. in July 2016, you can add 22 more weeks so that's so far 192 weeks in the top 100 in the last 4 years. What is odd is that WTSMG didn't even re-enter the charts in 2009 when Oasis broke up, you have to wait till mid-2016 to get this constant surge in sales! Same goes for "Time flies": charted for 31 weeks upon release in 2010, then sporadically re-entered the bottom of the top 100 the following years, but since January 2016 it has spent a ridiculous 221 weeks (172 & counting consecutive weeks since January 2017) in the charts! Anyone has an explanation to those incredible sales since 2016? Granted, the "Supersonic" documentary has introduced Oasis to younger generations, but I'm still puzzled that this band that split more than 10 years ago has been outselling so many new albums by successful newer artists (Billie Eilish is lagging behind WTSMG), especially considering WTSMG sold shitloads during the 90's so you'd think every UK household that remotely likes Oasis already has a copy. Streaming figures alone account for these impressive chart positions for WTSMG & "Time flies" for the last 4 years? Since 2015, the Official Charts Company has taken the 12 most streamed tracks from one album, with the top-two songs being down-weighted in line with the average of the rest. The total of these streams is divided by 1000 and added to the pure sales of the album. Basically, plenty of the songs on an album must be streamed a lot. Thats why greatest hits albums like Time Flies stay in the charts forever; theres enough people playing the 12 most popular cuts on there as they’re all hits. And both DM and MG have many iconic tracks that aren't the two biggest hits, which im guessing are Live Forever and maybe C&A on DM, then Wonderwall and DLBIA for MG. Those aside, you've still got loads of hit singles, as well as album tracks that are well-known and popular to the public (Some Might Say, Champagne Supernova, Supersonic, Rock N Roll Star, Slide Away, Roll With It). Many will also make Spotify playlists. Id say that's pretty much it.
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Post by freek on Apr 19, 2020 5:05:34 GMT -5
The streaming rules are the most important reason, but let's not forget that Oasis has kept our attention pretty well the last couple of years: the terror attack gig in 2017, Supersonic in 2016, re-issues in 2016 and 2019 and continuously spreading rumours of an imminent reunion. Besides, they have become a real vinyl legacy act also.
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