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Post by LightsOffInside on Nov 5, 2015 4:20:48 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Nov 5, 2015 4:37:48 GMT -5
I'm glad that Noel AND Liam will be in it. I hope Gem and Bonehead too
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Post by carryusall on Nov 5, 2015 5:53:19 GMT -5
I want a one hour uninterrupted interview with Guigsy, complete with bass solo and accusations that Noel re-recorded his bass parts on DM after pussying out on Guigsy's boundary-pushing original dub-reggae/free jazz basslines.
And Jimmie Nicol interviewing Scott McLeod.
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Post by theyknowwhatimean on Nov 5, 2015 8:16:37 GMT -5
How am I just hearing about this now!? Incredible news. Does that mean that it'll get a cinema release like Amy and Senna did? The thought of seeing and hearing the Gallagher brothers on the big screen is something quite marvellous.
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Post by Mean Mrs. Mustard on Nov 5, 2015 9:17:56 GMT -5
Great that they'll both be in it!
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Post by Noeldemort on Nov 5, 2015 10:13:55 GMT -5
Great that they'll both be in it! Even greater if they can appear together! I know it's not likely, but still hope they might have something like Lock The Box interview
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Post by carryusall on Nov 5, 2015 13:37:09 GMT -5
Great that they'll both be in it! Even greater if they can appear together! I know it's not likely, but still hope they might have something like Lock The Box interview I would be so excited for this I would poo
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Post by davidjay on Nov 5, 2015 13:43:18 GMT -5
Haven't seen Senna but Amy was an excellent documentary, very poignant and with an amazing range of archive footage. Great to see some of the recording session footage in there, leading into the final mixes of tracks like Tears Dry on Their Own. I think we're in for a treat with the Oasis doc.
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Post by guigsysEstring on Nov 5, 2015 14:04:36 GMT -5
Haven't seen Senna but Amy was an excellent documentary, very poignant and with an amazing range of archive footage. Great to see some of the recording session footage in there, leading into the final mixes of tracks like Tears Dry on Their Own. I think we're in for a treat with the Oasis doc. Senna is equally as quality David, so hopefully if they continue with their methods of producing these sort of films we should have (at last) an excellent and in depth documentary on Oasis.
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Post by davidjay on Nov 5, 2015 15:35:12 GMT -5
Haven't seen Senna but Amy was an excellent documentary, very poignant and with an amazing range of archive footage. Great to see some of the recording session footage in there, leading into the final mixes of tracks like Tears Dry on Their Own. I think we're in for a treat with the Oasis doc. Senna is equally as quality David, so hopefully if they continue with their methods of producing these sort of films we should have (at last) an excellent and in depth documentary on Oasis. Ah sounds great, I'll check out the Senna doc asap. Looking forward to the new Oasis doc. Of earlier Oasis documentaries, I think Dick Carruthers' one on Definitely Maybe was great and always hoped there would be a follow-up for Morning Glory and Be Here Now.
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Post by welshylad on Nov 6, 2015 3:11:37 GMT -5
I hope it's gonna be good... But it will probably be Noel telling the same old stories.
Hopefully some new live footage will surface from it
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Post by Norbert Gallhager on Nov 6, 2015 4:18:08 GMT -5
Great that they'll both be in it! Even greater if they can appear together! I know it's not likely, but still hope they might have something like Lock The Box interview If the producers manage to arrange that...they might as well be given the Nobel Peace Price for their extraodinary achievements.
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Post by jupi on Nov 6, 2015 6:49:50 GMT -5
Personally I'm not that interested. Yes, it's the period where the band did their meteoric rise but at the same time it's the period that has been covered the most. After all the books, articles, documentaries and making-ofs I doubt there's hardly anything we didn't already know. Hope the doc is good but I'll keep waiting for anything that covers years 1999-2009.
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Post by theyknowwhatimean on Nov 6, 2015 7:12:23 GMT -5
Personally I'm not that interested. Yes, it's the period where the band did their meteoric rise but at the same time it's the period that has been covered the most. After all the books, articles, documentaries and making-ofs I doubt there's hardly anything we didn't already know. Hope the doc is good but I'll keep waiting for anything that covers years 1999-2009. Unfortunately, due to a combination of factors, the band's work from 1999 to 2009 was rarely anything other than bang average. Nothing particularly interesting happened, they just went through the motions.
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Post by andrewmattcoles on Nov 9, 2015 6:59:22 GMT -5
I'm not sure about this at all. Amy was popular because of her tragic end and insight into battle with drugs and people/public stil had an interest...Senna with a god like persona taken in an instant.
Oasis...for most people fizzled out after 97 and limped to their end in comparison. The only period of interests (and thus the subject of the doc) has been done to death and leaves no interesting insight
Sure if I get some unseen material I will be satisfied, but don't expect a box office hit
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Post by GasPanicNic on Nov 9, 2015 12:02:54 GMT -5
Maybe the "Britpop" era will be the main part of the documentary but despite the fact Noel will probably lie and tell the complete opposite of what Liam's saying (if it's even true they'll be sharing their memories and opinions in this) I still hope this will give us at least a few storys to laugh about. Unfortunately, I don't see the film being successful outside the UK really because at least in Germany (and probably other European countries except from Italy, maybe) most people aren't interested in Oasis anymore. And also, in Oasis nobody died so they can't make such an extremely dramatic film as Amy was, I think. The only similar thing they could do is focusing on talking about Liam and Noel hating each other.
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Post by spaneli on Nov 9, 2015 15:00:09 GMT -5
This could be a highly seminal moment for Oasis.
Those who say that this period that has been done to death are approaching this from a super fan perspective. Of course Oasis fans know everything that needs to be known about this era. However, for most of the world this era hasn't been shown enough.
The concept of a box-office hit for a documentary is somewhat minimal. Amy is a big exception, grossing 22 mill. No documentary does that, and this one certainly won't. Senna for example, only made 10 mill. worldwide. That's an extremely paltry sum, yet pretty good for a documentary. However, I think a great comparative for the success of an Oasis documentary would be Searching for Sugar Man. That's a great example of, if the story and the subject of the story is compelling enough, it can succeed. Oasis could easily do the same. The idea of success for a documentary is fleeting.
While I don't think it could ever come close to Amy, I think it could certainly pull in the same 10 mill. gross for Senna or the 9 mill. for Searching for Sugar Man. Once again, documentaries aren't meant to have "high" grosses. It's already a fairly niche market. So don't expect everyone to be running over each other no matter who the subject is for a documentary on any subject (once again, even Amy has only pulled in 22 mill). If this documentary grosses 8 mill, that's a "successful" documentary. Besides, if done correctly with that type of pull of gross, there's a decent chance (especially with the track record of those making this doc) that it could be up for Oscar contention, which for documentary can be thin some years. That in itself, would give Oasis an audience is hasn't had for some time. A world wide theater release, under the guise of respected documentarians who have been nominated for Oscars. It doesn't get much better than that.
Long of the short of it, any medium where Oasis can remind people who they once were, where they have the opportunity to remind people of the enormity of what they did, or they have a chance to reach an audience that wouldn't have normally heard of them or bought one of their albums, is a good one. This has the potential to be a nice game changer when it comes to redefining an era for those who have either never heard of it, or only barely remember it. And it could spark a re-interest in their music.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 9, 2015 16:14:16 GMT -5
This could be a highly seminal moment for Oasis. Those who say that this period that has been done to death are approaching this from a super fan perspective. Of course Oasis fans know everything that needs to be known about this era. However, for most of the world this era hasn't been shown enough. The concept of a box-office hit for a documentary is somewhat minimal. Amy is a big exception, grossing 22 mill. No documentary does that, and this one certainly won't. Senna for example, only made 10 mill. worldwide. That's an extremely paltry sum, yet pretty good for a documentary. However, I think a great comparative for the success of an Oasis documentary would be Searching for Sugar Man. That's a great example of, if the story and the subject of the story is compelling enough, it can succeed. Oasis could easily do the same. The idea of success for a documentary is fleeting. While I don't think it could ever come close to Amy, I think it could certainly pull in the same 10 mill. gross for Senna or the 9 mill. for Searching for Sugar Man. Once again, documentaries aren't meant to have "high" grosses. It's already a fairly niche market. So don't expect everyone to be running over each other no matter who the subject is for a documentary on any subject (once again, even Amy has only pulled in 22 mill). If this documentary grosses 8 mill, that's a "successful" documentary. Besides, if done correctly with that type of pull of gross, there's a decent chance (especially with the track record of those making this doc) that it could be up for Oscar contention, which for documentary can be thin some years. That in itself, would give Oasis an audience is hasn't had for some time. A world wide theater release, under the guise of respected documentarians who have been nominated for Oscars. It doesn't get much better than that. Long of the short of it, any medium where Oasis can remind people who they once were, where they have the opportunity to remind people of the enormity of what they did, or they have a chance to reach an audience that wouldn't have normally heard of them or bought one of their albums, is a good one. This has the potential to be a nice game changer when it comes to redefining an era for those who have either never heard of it, or only barely remember it. And it could spark a re-interest in their music. Everyone returns. Welcome back dude
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Post by Mean Mrs. Mustard on Nov 9, 2015 16:25:10 GMT -5
Spaneli! Hi!
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Post by World71R on Nov 9, 2015 17:15:47 GMT -5
Maybe the "Britpop" era will be the main part of the documentary but despite the fact Noel will probably lie and tell the complete opposite of what Liam's saying (if it's even true they'll be sharing their memories and opinions in this) I still hope this will give us at least a few story's to laugh about. Unfortunatly, I don't see the film being successful outside the UK really because at least in Germany (and probably other European countries except from Italy, maybe) most people aren't interested in Oasis anymore. And also, in Oasis nobody died so they can't make such an extremely dramatic film as Amy was, I think. The only similar thing they could do is focusing on talking about Liam and Noel hating each other. If they're smart, and wanna earn their salt for this documentary, they should really put a little extra focus on the Japanese market. The Madferits are alive and well over there, and has been home to Oasis's strongest fanbase outside of the UK.
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Post by Beady’s Here Now on Nov 9, 2015 19:40:23 GMT -5
Frankly, I want a Taylor Swift documentary.
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Post by mystoryisgory on Nov 9, 2015 20:15:32 GMT -5
This could be a highly seminal moment for Oasis. Those who say that this period that has been done to death are approaching this from a super fan perspective. Of course Oasis fans know everything that needs to be known about this era. However, for most of the world this era hasn't been shown enough. The concept of a box-office hit for a documentary is somewhat minimal. Amy is a big exception, grossing 22 mill. No documentary does that, and this one certainly won't. Senna for example, only made 10 mill. worldwide. That's an extremely paltry sum, yet pretty good for a documentary. However, I think a great comparative for the success of an Oasis documentary would be Searching for Sugar Man. That's a great example of, if the story and the subject of the story is compelling enough, it can succeed. Oasis could easily do the same. The idea of success for a documentary is fleeting. While I don't think it could ever come close to Amy, I think it could certainly pull in the same 10 mill. gross for Senna or the 9 mill. for Searching for Sugar Man. Once again, documentaries aren't meant to have "high" grosses. It's already a fairly niche market. So don't expect everyone to be running over each other no matter who the subject is for a documentary on any subject (once again, even Amy has only pulled in 22 mill). If this documentary grosses 8 mill, that's a "successful" documentary. Besides, if done correctly with that type of pull of gross, there's a decent chance (especially with the track record of those making this doc) that it could be up for Oscar contention, which for documentary can be thin some years. That in itself, would give Oasis an audience is hasn't had for some time. A world wide theater release, under the guise of respected documentarians who have been nominated for Oscars. It doesn't get much better than that. Long of the short of it, any medium where Oasis can remind people who they once were, where they have the opportunity to remind people of the enormity of what they did, or they have a chance to reach an audience that wouldn't have normally heard of them or bought one of their albums, is a good one. This has the potential to be a nice game changer when it comes to redefining an era for those who have either never heard of it, or only barely remember it. And it could spark a re-interest in their music. While I spend only a minute at most thinking about what I'll say in my posts, every post of spaneli is a mini-essay. Great to see you back.
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Post by theyknowwhatimean on Nov 10, 2015 9:31:37 GMT -5
If somewhere in those archives, there's footage of Liam recording his vocals for What's the Story..., this movie will be better than Apocalypse Now.
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Post by matt on Nov 10, 2015 10:34:11 GMT -5
Nobody will go to see a film that charters the band's 'progress' after 1997. Anything after that year is a mere footnote, not worthy of any attention to be brutally honest. So I don't see the point in Andy & Gem being in this. I suspect they wouldn't be involved considering these films are meant to draw in the general public as opposed to just hardcore fans, and the general public don't give two flying fucks about Oasis in the 21st century.
Besides, these films work best as a snapshot that best represents the personnel - so in Senna for example, much of it focuses on the intense rivalry with Alain Prost as opposed to a career spanning retrospective. It's one of sports greatest rivalries and I've read numerous books about it but I still got something out of it as it explored Senna's enigmatic character very well. So it can't merely be the same old well trodden story and the hardcore fans not getting anything new. Like many great films, it would be great to get a strong sense of character and a strong sense of place and how the band's formative years and environment in a northern working class city shaped the individual personality and overall spirit of the band.
But with most of these documentaries to grab the general viewer, it usually needs a bit of sensationalist interpretation. So in Senna, the antagonist (or 'villian') was the cold and calculating Alain Prost who was portrayed as having the entire F1 establishment behind him, whereas the emotive and deep Senna was fighting against everything - in reality, it was a well manipulated interpretation of events as it really wasn't as straightforward as that, certainly in terms of its characterisation of Prost.
So in this film, don't be surprised to see an anatagonist involved - which of course will be either the Gallagher's father or Blur. Predictably with Blur, I can see it as a portrayal of well priveleged, southern middle class kids on a wealthy major record label up against these unprofessional working class underdogs from the north, with the latter winning.
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Post by guigsysEstring on Nov 10, 2015 10:37:43 GMT -5
Frankly, I want a Taylor Swift documentary. I've never heard one of those sort of films called that before?
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