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Post by gdforever on Jun 9, 2013 16:17:33 GMT -5
Since Liam said so, duh. I don't think fact plays much of a role when Liam is truly on a rant. Indeed but he'd certainly know what happened to Bonehead and Guigsy better than anyone at this forum. It's not like there aren't stories going all the way back to 99 that Noel was fed up of Bonehead taking Liam out on booze ups while they were recording. lol. You'll believe anything Liam says about anything. Yeah...I'm sure Noel fired Guigs
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Post by olesiadudnik on Jun 9, 2013 16:30:39 GMT -5
Indeed but he'd certainly know what happened to Bonehead and Guigsy better than anyone at this forum. It's not like there aren't stories going all the way back to 99 that Noel was fed up of Bonehead taking Liam out on booze ups while they were recording. lol. You'll believe anything Liam says about anything. Yeah...I'm sure Noel fired Guigs Wha? You were there too!??
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Post by thomas09 on Jun 9, 2013 18:04:54 GMT -5
Indeed but he'd certainly know what happened to Bonehead and Guigsy better than anyone at this forum. It's not like there aren't stories going all the way back to 99 that Noel was fed up of Bonehead taking Liam out on booze ups while they were recording. lol. You'll believe anything Liam says about anything. Yeah...I'm sure Noel fired Guigs The only people who know are the ones who were there. Anything else people say is just speculation so I'd take Liam's word for it just as much as Noel's.
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Post by cloudburster on Jun 9, 2013 18:06:18 GMT -5
I may be being naive here, but how would the drugs fuck up his voice in the long run? Surely doing coke every now and then wouldn't be that bad, the smoking must be worse? Or would the effect on his nasal cavity affect his voice? Just curious..
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Post by agnhi on Jun 9, 2013 18:25:27 GMT -5
lol. You'll believe anything Liam says about anything. Yeah...I'm sure Noel fired Guigs The only people who know are the ones who were there. Anything else people say is just speculation so I'd take Liam's word for it just as much as Noel's. This this this. It's ok to question what they say, but to make it sound like the people who actually were there and went through it all don't know the truth as well as some random fans on an online forum... It's like the thing about some of Noel's songs being about Liam. Just because you can't see it, it doesn't mean Liam hasn't got more insight to it than you do.
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Post by J-200 on Jun 9, 2013 18:45:44 GMT -5
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Post by xo0oo0ox on Jun 9, 2013 19:04:40 GMT -5
Liam's always seemed to have a bit of a persecution complex. Regardless of whether Noel actually was plotting to leave the band, fired Bonehead/Guigsy, etc., I suspect Liam does legitimately believe these things...
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Post by Deleted on Jun 9, 2013 19:28:43 GMT -5
The only people who know are the ones who were there. Anything else people say is just speculation so I'd take Liam's word for it just as much as Noel's. This this this. It's ok to question what they say, but to make it sound like the people who actually were there and went through it all don't know the truth as well as some random fans on an online forum... It's like the thing about some of Noel's songs being about Liam. Just because you can't see it, it doesn't mean Liam hasn't got more insight to it than you do. Now this is the best post I've read on this topic in awhile... I know it's a forum and we all have the right to say anything as has been proven here without a doubt , But since the inception of the " team posters " and side takers. It's a joke how easy to see who will post what when Liam or Noel gets quoted both pro and con . Which people will " like " the post that slam or praise a brother ,,tFUCKING unreal how people can take such stances when they know absolutely as little about it as anyone ,whether you read and dissected every quote known to print or not . If you were not there Liam or Noel's version is much more believable or acceptable than what' " team side " you selected and thus defend. Just as if you were not inside Noel's head you have no fucking clue what or who he was writing a tune about . Yes this is a forum and you will bounce ideas here off like minded people and not like minded people which is great , but when you constantly pick the same side to voice your opinion pro and con then its obvious your opinion is simply blinded by your team loyality not facts . And in that case I'm sure since he was there Liam has more insight than you or any other player on your " team " or yourself . As does Noel . You can debate it all you like but that's just the fact yes Liam talks outta both sides maybe even more than Noel , I can say it I love both .. But even a clock is right twice a day ( bad pun ) maybe this is one of those times for Liam , maybe not , but ill take his word over the guesses of forum theorists ANYDAY
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Post by GIMH on Jun 10, 2013 12:36:35 GMT -5
Indeed but he'd certainly know what happened to Bonehead and Guigsy better than anyone at this forum. It's not like there aren't stories going all the way back to 99 that Noel was fed up of Bonehead taking Liam out on booze ups while they were recording. lol. You'll believe anything Liam says about anything. Yeah...I'm sure Noel fired Guigs I didn't say I believed it, just that none of us know what went on. Not hard is it??
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Post by Deleted on Jun 10, 2013 12:51:29 GMT -5
lol. You'll believe anything Liam says about anything. Yeah...I'm sure Noel fired Guigs I didn't say I believed it, just that none of us know what went on. Not hard is it?? Yea man ...it's just like a bad break up or marriage ya know ? We all had them ... Your friends will hear one side and say the other person is a dick , then hear the next version from other partner and feel the same .... Sure my exes have tons to slag on me , but so do I ...and after hearing my mom and dad. Snipe about each other as a neutral I do t know how rhey were married 25 years , if what they say about each other true they both should be ashamed Truth is in middle as always no matter what anyone here wants to believe , been like that since day 1 whether a sexual relationship ,or buisness / sibling man
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Post by thetruth on Jun 10, 2013 16:15:21 GMT -5
Indeed but he'd certainly know what happened to Bonehead and Guigsy better than anyone at this forum. It's not like there aren't stories going all the way back to 99 that Noel was fed up of Bonehead taking Liam out on booze ups while they were recording. lol. You'll believe anything Liam says about anything. Yeah...I'm sure Noel fired Guigs Seriously were you there ? Are you intimate with the Gallaghers ? With Guisgy and Bonehead ? With Whitey ? No ? Then how on earth can you speak like you know anything about that. YOU DON'T KNOW ANYTHING, YOU'RE NOT A MEMBER OF OASIS , LIAM WAS !!!!! You're the one who think everything Noel says is the truth. The thing we know about Bonehead leaving is that he had a fight with Noel during SOTSOG and then he left. That's it ! So maybe just maybe Liam knows more than you do since he was actually there, just maybe... Then Noel actually sacked McCarroll and it's quite obvious that Whitey got sacked. For Whitey, we don't know by who, maybe the all band, maybe just Noel. There never were any explanation about it, Liam said it's Noel, it's possible, I wasn't there and Noel never gave any explanation about it. As for Guisgy, he had already left once during MG tour, he never seemed to hate the slightest idea of how he managed to be in this huge band, when all he wanted was a band to play after work at the boardwalk, anyway it's the way I see it and Noel once told it like that. I don't think Noel fired him but I don't think Noel did anything to keep him in the band once Bonehead left.
And after spending 10 years in the same band as Bonehead and Guisgy, Noel said he had hardly spoken 10 words to them in his life, when he even lived at Bonehead at a time and shared those years of struggling and then success with them. Bonehead and Guigsy and Liam are the reason he ever had a band, therefore his huge success and finally they came from the same city, they have the same roots, they've known all of this Oasis incredible journey together. Of course they owe Noel everything. But Noel had zero respect for them when he was saying things like "it's hardly Paul Mccartney leaving the beatles" or that he had never spoken 10 words to them in his life. Liam has the right to his point of vue on those things and since neither of you were actually there, I believe what he says as much as Noel, there's not truth better than another, there's two visions of things. And the fact that you prefer Noel's song doesn't mean he says the truth at all
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Post by cloudburster on Jun 10, 2013 17:54:38 GMT -5
funny how in the comments section of that interview everyones just slagging him off, why do people waste their life reading an interview about a man they hate? grow the fuck up and avoid it if you hate him so much . This reviewer sums it up perfectly "Much of the critical huffing that's greeted BE has hovered around the question: why should we care? Why should we care what Liam gets up to on his gardening leave before that 2015 reunion. Well, we should have cared, because idiots hate them automatically, and there's great cultural value in a critical whipping boy. People who get worked up about Beady Eye, as opposed to just not liking or not listening to them, are people who like to be thought of as clever, and radical, and forward-thinking. Not people who are those things, but like to define themselves as those things, which is very different." People think it's cool to hate Liam, so they go out of their way to post vitriol about him everywhere they can. Its weird, I don't like Kaiser Chiefs, and if someone asks me I'll say they're shite, but I have never commented on a story about them voicing my dislike. Or anyone else I dislike. Its a waste of my time because I don't care about them. People say 'Liam is an irrelevant dick' but the sheer amount of views and comments every piece about him gets is testament to the fact that in fact, people do still care, and he has managed to stay in the public eye and a pretty recognisable name for 20 years, so it's all good as it keeps people listening to his music. Not many artists other than a few can expect their album to be contesting for #1 20 years after they started and when they are supposedly 'hated' by everyone. Liam and Noel are in that select few, no matter what the comments would lead you to believe, its just proof they ARE still relevant. People DO give a shit, no matter how many "NO BODY CARES LIAM OMGGGZZZ vagina!" comments you read
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Post by Gin & Tonic on Jun 10, 2013 18:01:46 GMT -5
funny how in the comments section of that interview everyones just slagging him off, why do people waste their life reading an interview about a man they hate? grow the fuck up and avoid it if you hate him so much . This reviewer sums it up perfectly "Much of the critical huffing that's greeted BE has hovered around the question: why should we care? Why should we care what Liam gets up to on his gardening leave before that 2015 reunion. Well, we should have cared, because idiots hate them automatically, and there's great cultural value in a critical whipping boy. People who get worked up about Beady Eye, as opposed to just not liking or not listening to them, are people who like to be thought of as clever, and radical, and forward-thinking. Not people who are those things, but like to define themselves as those things, which is very different." People think it's cool to hate Liam, so they go out of their way to post vitriol about him everywhere they can. Its weird, I don't like Kaiser Chiefs, and if someone asks me I'll say they're shite, but I have never commented on a story about them voicing my dislike. Or anyone else I dislike. Its a waste of my time because I don't care about them. People say 'Liam is an irrelevant dick' but the sheer amount of views and comments every piece about him gets is testament to the fact that in fact, people do still care, and he has managed to stay in the public eye and a pretty recognisable name for 20 years, so it's all good as it keeps people listening to his music. Not many artists other than a few can expect their album to be contesting for #1 20 years after they started and when they are supposedly 'hated' by everyone. Liam and Noel are in that select few, no matter what the comments would lead you to believe, its just proof they ARE still relevant. People DO give a shit, no matter how many "NO BODY CARES LIAM OMGGGZZZ vagina!" comments you read Brilliant post mate.
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Post by cloudburster on Jun 10, 2013 18:15:13 GMT -5
This reviewer sums it up perfectly "Much of the critical huffing that's greeted BE has hovered around the question: why should we care? Why should we care what Liam gets up to on his gardening leave before that 2015 reunion. Well, we should have cared, because idiots hate them automatically, and there's great cultural value in a critical whipping boy. People who get worked up about Beady Eye, as opposed to just not liking or not listening to them, are people who like to be thought of as clever, and radical, and forward-thinking. Not people who are those things, but like to define themselves as those things, which is very different." People think it's cool to hate Liam, so they go out of their way to post vitriol about him everywhere they can. Its weird, I don't like Kaiser Chiefs, and if someone asks me I'll say they're shite, but I have never commented on a story about them voicing my dislike. Or anyone else I dislike. Its a waste of my time because I don't care about them. People say 'Liam is an irrelevant dick' but the sheer amount of views and comments every piece about him gets is testament to the fact that in fact, people do still care, and he has managed to stay in the public eye and a pretty recognisable name for 20 years, so it's all good as it keeps people listening to his music. Not many artists other than a few can expect their album to be contesting for #1 20 years after they started and when they are supposedly 'hated' by everyone. Liam and Noel are in that select few, no matter what the comments would lead you to believe, its just proof they ARE still relevant. People DO give a shit, no matter how many "NO BODY CARES LIAM OMGGGZZZ vagina!" comments you read Brilliant post mate. Cheers!
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