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Post by gdforever on Jul 26, 2011 17:30:02 GMT -5
LIB...step off! You can be an annoying fucker sometimes! You don't have to try to shut down all the threads that you don't agree with. Some of us like the analysis!
If you aren't going to contribute something then FUCK OFF.
Thank you and God Bless!
That is all
Now I am going to go craft a response the thread...I enjoy these kinds...although I swear we have had this discussion before and I posted a gem of a comment. Oh well...
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Post by Hans Gruber on Jul 26, 2011 17:47:08 GMT -5
LIB...step off! You can be an annoying fucker sometimes! You don't have to try to shut down all the threads that you don't agree with. Some of us like the analysis! If you aren't going to contribute something then FUCK OFF. Thank you and God Bless! That is all Now I am going to go craft a response the thread...I enjoy these kinds...although I swear we have had this discussion before and I posted a gem of a comment. Oh well... you need to fucking calm down, woman. do what you want. i'm not that important, trust me. God bless. |
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Post by agnhi on Jul 26, 2011 18:07:56 GMT -5
"Show, don't tell"
It's a good rule for prose.
Poetry(and lyrics) is a different matter though(and in prose plenty of space for exceptions). I think poetry has a lot more "space" for telling before one starts missing the showing.
Mostly the rule refers to finding a details that show more information than simple telling. I think someone who writes very 'showing a story' sort of lyrics is Alex Turner. Personally I agree he's very good at it, but I'm not a big fan.
It's funny though lots of people find Liam's lyrics cold and not delivering emotions and all that, it's the opposite for me.
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Post by gdforever on Jul 26, 2011 18:16:20 GMT -5
I think Noel is a weird one because I can like them for several very different reasons. They are either abstract to the point of almost indeciferability or they can be loaded with imagery but the thing tht usually gets me is that they are intensely personal (@ his best)...THAT is what I think that LAG lack in general.
When I listen to a Noel song with lyrics...they seem like they come directly from him...even when it was Liam singing. Like I couldn't imagine anyone else writing them. Although maybe everyone is that way about their favorite artists. But in my mind Noel has a very distinct voice...
Gas Panic sounds great with Liam's voice...but I picture the tongueless ghost of sin creeping through someones curtains...it's Noel's curtains not Liam.
I could never imagine Liam looking out and beseaching someone or himself to stop crying their heart out.
Idlers Dream, Slide Away, Talk Tonight, Wonderwall, Cigarettes in Hell, Live Forever, Married with Children, Falling Down, Part of the Queue, Stay Young, Half the World Away, Don't Go Away, Lets All Make Believe.
I am familiar with the BDI lyrics...but I don't think that any of them scream to me as being the voice of their writer.
That is not to say that ALL Noels songs are like that. There are many whose lyrics are middling and serve only for the vocalist to sing to the melody. But those are obviously not Noel at his lyrical best. Doubt anyone would truly argue the lyrical merits of something like MG, Digsys Dinner, SE, PYMWYMI, THT, Lyla, TSOTL, BIU, HHL
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Post by gdforever on Jul 26, 2011 18:20:34 GMT -5
LIB...step off! You can be an annoying fucker sometimes! You don't have to try to shut down all the threads that you don't agree with. Some of us like the analysis! If you aren't going to contribute something then FUCK OFF. Thank you and God Bless! That is all Now I am going to go craft a response the thread...I enjoy these kinds...although I swear we have had this discussion before and I posted a gem of a comment. Oh well... you need to fucking calm down, woman. do what you want. i'm not that important, trust me. God bless. No...95% of the time you aren't. I don't mind your spouting nonsense in the most of the threads. It's funny most of the times. But seriously...when people are having an actual conversation there is NOTHING more annoying and frustrating than having to scroll past a dozen posts of absolute twaddle by you and the few people that take you up on it to find anything of any sustance to read. There are so many useless threads on this board or ones that have already basically been talked out plus a whole thread devoted to posting what is on your mind. When people are actually having a conversation...let yourself out quietly please like a big boy. |
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Post by Hans Gruber on Jul 26, 2011 18:35:31 GMT -5
you need to fucking calm down, woman. do what you want. i'm not that important, trust me. God bless. No...95% of the time you aren't. I don't mind your spouting nonsense in the most of the threads. It's funny most of the times. But seriously...when people are having an actual conversation there is NOTHING more annoying and frustrating than having to scroll past a dozen posts of absolute twaddle by you and the few people that take you up on it to find anything of any sustance to read. There are so many useless threads on this board or ones that have already basically been talked out plus a whole thread devoted to posting what is on your mind. When people are actually having a conversation...let yourself out quietly please like a big boy. don't fucking patronize me. i don't patronize people here. if you don't like what i say skip it, like you've said in the past. i entered the thread to give NL4E a hard time and then i got stuck and some, not all of your analytical buddies, 'lookingtothesky' and myself worked out of differences, fucking went into condescending mode when i made a bad joke. for Christ sake your above post doesn't even really say anything. that's what i've noticed about most of the analytically drunk, they lack the gift and are bitter about it or something and just over analyze everything to compensate. fuck. off. |
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Post by shoes222 on Jul 26, 2011 19:11:12 GMT -5
You made a great point about Noel's lyrics, gdforever. Those are the exact same reasons why I like them.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 26, 2011 19:39:39 GMT -5
I'm utterly hopeless at anything like this, I don't have a very analytical mind and I'm a bit thick when it comes to anything related to english literature/language so I wont be properly joining in this discussion. I never really get the meanings of lyrics or even really pay any attention to the words until I've listened to something 10/20 times, I mostly just pay attention to the music and melody. However I'm bored, not tired and there's nobody to talk to at half 1 in the morning  so I'm gonna post this pointless crap. Enjoy  Also everybody just calm the fuck down! |
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so I'm gonna post this pointless crap. Enjoy 
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