redlandsman87
Oasis Roadie
Because something is happening here, But you don't know what it is...Do you, Mister Jones ?
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Post by redlandsman87 on Jun 11, 2011 23:44:21 GMT -5
Tsk tsk, Noel.  Course, he was a drop out.  |
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Post by spaneli on Jun 11, 2011 23:49:44 GMT -5
Tsk tsk, Noel. Course, he was a drop out. My exact point from the previous thread. Noel's lyrical prowess has dropped off significantly.  |
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Post by Gas Panic on Jun 12, 2011 2:04:39 GMT -5
no he's correct: if u say without the "You" its the the death of me which sounds right.
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Post by MasterplanMatt on Jun 12, 2011 4:17:18 GMT -5
no he's correct: if u say without the "You" its the the death of me which sounds right. No, it's definitely You and I. That's what I got taught at school anyway. Sounds correct as well. |
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Post by instantkarma84 on Jun 12, 2011 5:22:07 GMT -5
no he's correct: if u say without the "You" its the the death of me which sounds right. No, it's definitely You and I. That's what I got taught at school anyway. Sounds correct as well. Sorry to go all grammar-nazi on you but You and Me is correct: It's "You and I" when they are the *subject* of the sentence (that is, they're performing an action) You and I are going to the park today.It's "You and Me" when they are the *object* of the sentence (that is, something is being done to them) I can't believe they robbed you and me.Generally you don't see " you and me" because it's usually replaced by " us" while " you and I" is replaced by " we" We are going to the park today and I can't believe they robbed us.If you can use " we", you would use You and IIf you can use " us", you would use You and Me"The Death of We" or "The Death of Us" The second is correct of course, therefore can be subsituted with You and Me. Another test is just to take out the word 'you' and whichever still sounds grammatically correct would be the right usage: "The Death of I" or "The Death of Me" Again, the second. Grammatically speaking, the title " The Death of You and Me" is correct The more you know  and now back to your regularly scheduled thread... |
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Post by rcknrollstar on Jun 12, 2011 6:34:25 GMT -5
No, it's definitely You and I. That's what I got taught at school anyway. Sounds correct as well. Sorry to go all grammar-nazi on you but You and Me is correct: (.......) The more you know and now back to your regularly scheduled thread... Reading this comment on a Oasis fan forum just made my day. xD |
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Post by Marcos on Jun 12, 2011 8:46:20 GMT -5
No, it's definitely You and I. That's what I got taught at school anyway. Sounds correct as well. Sorry to go all grammar-nazi on you but You and Me is correct: It's "You and I" when they are the *subject* of the sentence (that is, they're performing an action) You and I are going to the park today.It's "You and Me" when they are the *object* of the sentence (that is, something is being done to them) I can't believe they robbed you and me.Generally you don't see " you and me" because it's usually replaced by " us" while " you and I" is replaced by " we" We are going to the park today and I can't believe they robbed us.If you can use " we", you would use You and IIf you can use " us", you would use You and Me"The Death of We" or "The Death of Us" The second is correct of course, therefore can be subsituted with You and Me. Another test is just to take out the word 'you' and whichever still sounds grammatically correct would be the right usage: "The Death of I" or "The Death of Me" Again, the second. Grammatically speaking, the title " The Death of You and Me" is correct The more you know and now back to your regularly scheduled thread... K+ my friend. |
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Post by bwilder on Jun 12, 2011 10:11:20 GMT -5
As a high school English teacher, I can verify that "The Death of You and Me" is grammatically correct. 'Of you and me' is a prepositional phrase therefore, 'me' is the object of the preposition and the correct form.
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Post by alwaysnow on Jun 12, 2011 11:10:48 GMT -5
I like this thread ;D
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Post by deasy on Jun 12, 2011 11:15:03 GMT -5
Tsk tsk, Noel. Course, he was a drop out. Epic fail |
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Post by kimallenbewick on Jun 12, 2011 11:58:39 GMT -5
Is weird you guys have doubts on it and I, despite I am not english, would write without any doubt ''The death of you and me'' instead of ''The death of you and I'' because that's how I have been taught.
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Post by Let It Bleed on Jun 12, 2011 12:20:27 GMT -5
'The death of you and I' doesn't even sound correct when spoken, it's awkward.
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mmario
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Post by mmario on Jun 12, 2011 15:36:58 GMT -5
Reminds me of: " But you and I, we live and dieThe world's still spinning round We don't know why" On a side note: Liam was also referring to CS lately. Coincidence? |
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Post by bwilder on Jun 12, 2011 16:11:37 GMT -5
Reminds me of: " But you and I, we live and dieThe world's still spinning round We don't know why" On a side note: Liam was also referring to CS lately. Coincidence? "I" is the subject in that sentence, therefore Noel is correct again. However, if anyone is really, really interested in a time when Noel was grammatically incorrect: "Lately, did you ever feel the pain in the morning rain.." It should be, "Lately, have you ever felt the pain..." But melodically, that doesn't sound right to the ear which is my guess why he changed it. Good move, Chief.. |
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Post by gdforever on Jun 12, 2011 17:43:08 GMT -5
Reminds me of: " But you and I, we live and dieThe world's still spinning round We don't know why" On a side note: Liam was also referring to CS lately. Coincidence? "I" is the subject in that sentence, therefore Noel is correct again. However, if anyone is really, really interested in a time when Noel was grammatically incorrect: "Lately, did you ever feel the pain in the morning rain.." It should be, "Lately, have you ever felt the pain..." But melodically, that doesn't sound right to the ear which is my guess why he changed it. Good move, Chief.. LOL...I don't think he was saying anything about grammar. He was saying that the title reminds him of a line from CS. You guys are funny when you are singlemindedly focused on grammar. |
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Post by Plantpot on Jun 13, 2011 7:32:57 GMT -5
Now this is the kind of thread I enjoy reading. Cheers!
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Post by putthisin ® on Jun 13, 2011 7:46:05 GMT -5
Let's talk about more things that don't matter at all!
It should be "Death of You and Me". I don't like the "The" It's too generic and clearly a response to "The Morning Son" because it also features a "The" in the title! Shame on you Noel
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Post by shoes222 on Jun 13, 2011 10:38:34 GMT -5
Sorry to go all grammar-nazi on you but You and Me is correct: (.......) The more you know and now back to your regularly scheduled thread... You just got K+'d my friend. |
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Post by Beady’s Here Now on Jun 13, 2011 11:28:42 GMT -5
I haven't read through this entire thread, but I'm sure it's been corrected now. It's "You and Me" in this case.
Simple trick: Remove the first half and see if it makes sense:
The death of I? Nope.
The death of me? Yup.
Bonkers and I love Oasis:
I love Oasis. Yup.
Me love(s) Oasis. Nope.
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Post by bonkers on Jun 13, 2011 11:30:20 GMT -5
I haven't read through this entire thread, but I'm sure it's been corrected now. It's "You and Me" in this case. Simple trick: Remove the first half and see if it makes sense: The death of I? Nope. The death of me? Yup. Bonkers and I love Oasis: I love Oasis. Yup. Me love(s) Oasis. Nope. oi!! |
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Lester
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Standing in the sunshine, tanning in the moonlight
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Post by Lester on Jun 14, 2011 8:50:17 GMT -5
However, if anyone is really, really interested in a time when Noel was grammatically incorrect: "Lately, did you ever feel the pain in the morning rain.." It should be, "Lately, have you ever felt the pain..." But melodically, that doesn't sound right to the ear which is my guess why he changed it. Good move, Chief.. Round Are Way says hello as well. |
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Post by Beady’s Here Now on Jun 14, 2011 11:28:17 GMT -5
The one that gets me is in TIOBI: "Cos it don't stop raining".....it's should be "won't", which would fit in identically. No idea why Noel went with 'don't'
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Lester
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Post by Lester on Jun 14, 2011 13:23:44 GMT -5
He does sing it correctly live, though.
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Post by petedaley on Jun 14, 2011 13:40:34 GMT -5
Bwilder, I'm an English teacher in Massachusetts, too. What town/city do you teach in?
For the record, "The Death of You and Me" is right. But tell that to Jim Morrison: "Till the stars fall from the sky / for you and me" would just sound awful.
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Post by bonkers on Jun 14, 2011 13:48:46 GMT -5
actually all of you are wrong!!!! it should be The death of Beadyeyeunofficial
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Course, he was a drop out. 
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