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Post by Poshbird05 on Oct 9, 2009 10:26:35 GMT -5
I'm sure you all know by now that Obama won the Nobel Peace Prize. Utterly ridicules, apparently using hope as a campaign buzz word can get you a nobel prize. "The Norwegian Nobel Committee said it honored Obama for his "extraordinary efforts to strengthen international diplomacy and cooperation between peoples. ... Nominations for the prize had to be postmarked by February 1 -- only 12 days after Obama took office. The committee sent out its solicitation for nominations last September -- two months before Obama was elected president." www.cnn.com/2009/WORLD/europe/10/09/nobel.peace.prize/index.html
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Post by supersonic1983 on Oct 9, 2009 10:30:21 GMT -5
What a joke. It clearly ought to have been awarded to Bono.
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Post by NYR on Oct 9, 2009 11:47:02 GMT -5
i don't get why he won it. he hasn't done anything yet. there's only one other person in recent times i feel didn't deserve it, and it's yasser arafat.
edit: interestingly, there was a quote from the head of the nobel committee, thorbjørn jagland: “the question we have to ask is who has done the most in the previous year to enhance peace in the world. and who has done more than barack obama?”
not so sure anybody has really done anything great for peace this year. maybe us americans are so jaded from him, but outside this country, i guess our president really means something to them. what that something is, i'm not so sure of right now, but maybe it's the ideals of what they think america and the world should and can be.
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Post by caro on Oct 9, 2009 12:05:29 GMT -5
yeah it is real BS note that when the nominations were closed he had been in office for 11 days...
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Post by Beady’s Here Now on Oct 9, 2009 12:09:35 GMT -5
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Post by Cast on Oct 9, 2009 15:34:32 GMT -5
he hasn't done shit. The fact that he was only in office for 11 days is shocking. No way in hell does this guy deserve the Prize. But then again the Prize is worthless these days anyway. Muhammad Yunus though is truly deserving fellow I'm glad he won the award when he did. Obama doesn't serve this right now but that doesn't mean in the future he won't be.
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Post by globe on Oct 11, 2009 9:56:33 GMT -5
It is a bit of a joke, but if it annoys NL4E then it has to be a good thing surely?
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Post by NYR on Oct 11, 2009 17:33:43 GMT -5
i personally would have given it to morgan tsvingarai, given all the hardships he had to endure over the past year, but i'm a little disheartened at how "disgusted" and "appalled" certain americans are that their president won the nobel peace prize. he might not have deserved it as much as others, but nothing can be done to change it. while some of us agree that he didn't do enough to deserve it, he wasn't undeserving of it.
personally, i see this prize as a way to advance and promote the promises he made during the campaign.
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Post by halftheworld on Oct 11, 2009 19:08:18 GMT -5
personally, i see this prize as a way to advance and promote the promises he made during the campaign. but that makes the award a bit absurd, don't it? i mean it should not be a political instrument to put pressure on a person to fulfill honorable promises. and besides that i don't think it will help obama with his political agenda - you know how the right wing is going to react on that. and the problem is they somewhat have a point (unlike the dull campaign against his health care policy with this hitler bla bla...).
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Post by NYR on Oct 11, 2009 21:14:50 GMT -5
i understand. the thing is, we'll never know what was running through these people's minds when voting. furthermore, a majority of people against obama winning it are the people who, to paraphrase rush limbaugh, want to see him fail. add this to the list of complaints we've heard.
remember all the hoopla from the right wing when al gore won it two years ago?
edit: just so some of you know, the nominations were 11 days after he was sworn in. the official voting was recently. maybe a month or two ago. big difference.
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Post by caro on Oct 12, 2009 22:47:03 GMT -5
it is disturbing because he didnt do a whole lot for it but also because of the pressure lever they are exerting on him with this "prize"... hence who it should be awarded for actions and not intentions... the man takes decisions that have influence over a lot more people than the good citizen of good old US of A the guy is commander in chief, need i say more?
it is so wrong and i dont think reps are the only people not very happy with this, I mean look at you NYR ;D
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Post by Beady’s Here Now on Oct 13, 2009 0:00:22 GMT -5
i understand. the thing is, we'll never know what was running through these people's minds when voting. furthermore, a majority of people against obama winning it are the people who, to paraphrase rush limbaugh, want to see him fail. add this to the list of complaints we've heard. remember all the hoopla from the right wing when al gore won it two years ago? edit: just so some of you know, the nominations were 11 days after he was sworn in. the official voting was recently. maybe a month or two ago. big difference. Erm. No. Every single one of my liberal friends thought it was strange. Majority of liberal pundits thought it was strange. There's not many who think Obama should have gotten it.
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Post by Beady’s Here Now on Oct 13, 2009 0:02:28 GMT -5
Also - he got it for making statements? How weak.
So if I stand in front of the White House and say: "War is bad, peace is good. Booo Bush." I should get nominated, too?
Actions are what matter, not rhetoric. And he's done fuck all when it comes to accomplishments.
And if Obama had dignity he would have rejected it. He already said he didnt deserve it, so why the fuck did he accept it? What a joke.
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Post by halftheworld on Oct 13, 2009 0:45:08 GMT -5
the problem is: while every normal human being is wondering why this JURY awarded him the prize, some right wing nuts turn it into obamas fault.
just as a sidenote to that right wing uproar: did rush limbaugh really call him a kenian? i read it in the newspaper yesterday. is that guy THAT stupid or is he the modern joseph goebbels of the united states?
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Post by NYR on Oct 13, 2009 1:01:24 GMT -5
i understand. the thing is, we'll never know what was running through these people's minds when voting. furthermore, a majority of people against obama winning it are the people who, to paraphrase rush limbaugh, want to see him fail. add this to the list of complaints we've heard. remember all the hoopla from the right wing when al gore won it two years ago? edit: just so some of you know, the nominations were 11 days after he was sworn in. the official voting was recently. maybe a month or two ago. big difference. Erm. No. Every single one of my liberal friends thought it was strange. Majority of liberal pundits thought it was strange. There's not many who think Obama should have gotten it. you have friends? in seriousness, enough people thought he should win. that's why he won. strange? yes. it is so wrong and i dont think reps are the only people not very happy with this, I mean look at you NYR ;D i'm not unhappy with this. i'm happy to see anybody looking at this country in a positive light. (especially after the past eight years.) i think it's premature, but i'll take it. And if Obama had dignity he would have rejected it. He already said he didnt deserve it, so why the fuck did he accept it? What a joke. because other people thought he deserved it? you know, the voters? and what do you know about dignity?
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Post by puretone on Oct 13, 2009 9:25:29 GMT -5
Yes staying quiet during the gaza massacre in the process of upping the ante in afghansthan yes obama cares greatly for world peace. American are the single biggest threat to world peace.
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Post by digsyssupper on Oct 13, 2009 11:58:02 GMT -5
its obvious he only got it coz hes the first black president, no other reason.
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Post by NYR on Oct 13, 2009 12:13:02 GMT -5
trolls are taking over!
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Post by puretone on Oct 13, 2009 12:39:45 GMT -5
Someone has a different opinion to you so there trolls.
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Post by NYR on Oct 13, 2009 15:18:18 GMT -5
Someone has a different opinion to you so there trolls. he wasn't president when the war in gaza was taking place. in fact, it ended two days before he took office. it's irrelevant. he didn't win it for being black, either. if that was the case, than there would be a lot more world leaders who won it due to the color of their skin. a troll is someone who posts incendiary comments that are usually irrelevant to discussion. that makes you...
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