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Post by Beady’s Here Now on Jun 18, 2009 2:02:41 GMT -5
While true, this is just for fun - relax Eva! Obamaworld By Victor Davis Hanson Are you confused by all that has changed since President Barack Obama took office in January? If so, you're not alone. Perhaps, though, this handy guide to Age of Obama "logic" might be of some assistance. 1. The Budget. Wanting to cut $17 billion from the budget, as President Obama has promised, is proof of financial responsibility. Borrowing $1.84 trillion this year for new programs is "stimulus." The old phrase "out-of-control spending" is inoperative. 2. Unemployment. The number of jobs theoretically saved, or created, by new government policies - not the actual percentage of Americans out of work, or the total number of jobs lost - is now the far better indicator of unemployment. 3. The Private Sector. Nationalizing much of the auto and financial industries, while regulating executive compensation, is an indication of our new government's repeatedly stated reluctance to interfere in the private sector. 4. Race and Gender. Not what is said but who says it and about whom reveals racism and sexism. For example, an Hispanic female judge isn't being offensive if she states that Latinas are inherently better judges than white males. 5. Random violence. Some assassinations represent larger American pathologies, but others do not. When a crazed lone gunman murders someone outside the Holocaust Museum or shoots an abortion doctor, we should worry about growing right-wing and Christian extremism. But when an African-American Muslim convert brags about his murder of a military recruitment officer or an Islamic group plots to kill Jews and blow up a military jet, these are largely isolated incidents without larger relevance. 6. Terrorism. Acts of terror disappeared about six months ago. Thankfully, we live now in an age where there will be - in the new vocabulary of the Obama administration - only occasional "overseas contingency operations" in which we may be forced to hold a few "detainees." At the same time, ongoing military tribunals, renditions, wiretaps, phone intercepts and predator-drone assassinations are no longer threats to the Constitution. And just saying you're going to close the detention center at Guantanamo Bay is proof that it is almost closed. 7. Iraq. The once-despised Iraq war thankfully ended around Jan. 20, 2009, and has now transformed into a noble experiment that is fanning winds of change throughout the Middle East. There will be no need for any more Hollywood cinema exposés of American wartime crimes in Iraq with titles like "Rendition," "Redacted," "Lions for Lambs" and "Stop-Loss." 8. The West. Western values and history aren't apparently that special or unique. As President Obama told the world during his recent speech in Cairo, the Renaissance and Enlightenment were, in fact, fueled by a brilliant Islamic culture, responsible for landmark discoveries in mathematics, science and medicine. Slavery in America ended without violence. Mistreatment of women and religious intolerance in the Middle East have comparable parallels in America. 9. Media. The media are disinterested and professional observers of the present administration. When television anchormen and senior magazine editors bow to the president, proclaim him a god or feel tingling in the legs when he speaks, it is quite normal. 10. George W. Bush. Former President Bush did all sorts of bad things to the United States that only now we are learning will take at least eight years to sort out. "Bush did it" for the next decade will continue to explain the growing unemployment rate, the most recent deficit, the new round of tensions with Iran and North Korea, and the growing global unrest from the Middle East to South America. Once we remember and accept the logic of the above, then almost everything about this Age of Obama begins to make perfect sense. www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2009/06/18/obamaworld_97044.html
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Post by supersonic1983 on Jun 18, 2009 4:49:22 GMT -5
Do you not like Barack Obama then?
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Post by His Royal Noelness on Jun 18, 2009 4:58:42 GMT -5
Can we limit Obama to one thread please. He's not that important
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Post by Jazzvi on Jun 18, 2009 5:32:43 GMT -5
Can we limit Obama to one thread please. He's not that important He is that important for our friend L4E. He's obsessed with him.
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Post by Beady’s Here Now on Jun 18, 2009 6:10:34 GMT -5
Can we limit Obama to one thread please. He's not that important Don't denounce The Messiah like that! Fair point though, let's use this thread for the Obama banter (has a fitting title for it already, too!)
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Post by thomaslivesforever on Jun 18, 2009 6:55:12 GMT -5
Can we limit Obama to one thread please. He's not that important LOL He's president of a superpower mate, a fading one but a superpower all the same.
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Post by Beady’s Here Now on Jun 18, 2009 7:01:08 GMT -5
Can we limit Obama to one thread please. He's not that important LOL He's president of a superpower mate, a fading one but a superpower all the same. Fading? Nah Sure, it may appear that the US is past its prime, but nowhere near a downfall! Of course, the US, one day, will be replaced. That's just how it works. Romans + Greeks, British, etc all had their day, and all came to an end. But in 2009 the US near its end? No.
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Post by eva on Jun 18, 2009 7:19:05 GMT -5
Can we limit Obama to one thread please. He's not that important thank you! that's what I've been saying all along
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Post by supersonic1983 on Jun 18, 2009 7:28:00 GMT -5
Erm, did he just compare the United States to the Roman and British empires?
The United States is a powerful country, no question, but let's not go mad.
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Post by Beady’s Here Now on Jun 18, 2009 9:17:41 GMT -5
Erm, did he just compare the United States to the Roman and British empires? The United States is a powerful country, no question, but let's not go mad. Well some of your liberal counterparts would like to liken it to an empire (conquering and invading other countries and all that ) But just as the British and Romans ruled the day, the Americans currently do right now (and for the last 70+ years or so - since circa WWII)
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Post by supersonic1983 on Jun 18, 2009 9:45:44 GMT -5
But just as the British and Romans ruled the day, the Americans currently do right now (and for the last 70+ years or so - since circa WWII) America has a lot of allies around the world, that's for sure, but you'd be advised not to mistake allegiance for servitude. You shouldn't consider yourselves world leaders purely because your political figures are able to strongarm those in mine (and others) into fighting your battles. Take the British presence in Iraq, for example, which would probably be non-existent had the general public been granted the referendum they were entitled to prior to the Allied invasion. And then there's the economic crisis. World leaders or not, America has a lot to answer for.
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Post by Beady’s Here Now on Jun 18, 2009 9:51:05 GMT -5
But just as the British and Romans ruled the day, the Americans currently do right now (and for the last 70+ years or so - since circa WWII) America has a lot of allies around the world, that's for sure, but you'd be advised not to mistake allegiance for servitude. You shouldn't consider yourselves world leaders purely because your political figures are able to strongarm those in mine (and others) into fighting your battles. Take the British presence in Iraq, for example, which would probably be non-existent had the general public been granted the referendum they were entitled to prior to the Allied invasion. And then there's the economic crisis. World leaders or not, America has a lot to answer for. The economic crisis is actually not as bad in the US as it is for the rest of the world. Plus, it's been hyped up to the extreme! People, even highly rated officials, were claiming it's the worst economic crisis since the Great Depression!! Like hell it is! It's just about as bad as 1981, and no where near the 1970s! People who say it's the worst as Great Depression (where unemployment was as high as 27% - compared to a mere 9% right now! - don't know their history!) --> The Democrats are doing with the economy with what the GOP did with terrorism - but terrorism was a real, viable, dangerous threat! It makes more sense for the public to be scared of terrorists and to be cautious than it is to scare the American public of the economy! In fact, you should ENCOURAGE the public to spend in such a time, not fear it!!!!!!
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Post by thomaslivesforever on Jun 18, 2009 10:28:35 GMT -5
Erm, did he just compare the United States to the Roman and British empires? The United States is a powerful country, no question, but let's not go mad. Well some of your liberal counterparts would like to liken it to an empire (conquering and invading other countries and all that ) But just as the British and Romans ruled the day, the Americans currently do right now (and for the last 70+ years or so - since circa WWII) America is already being dwarfed by China, how do you think North Korea are getting away with it.
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Post by Billy Davey ツ on Jun 18, 2009 12:13:38 GMT -5
Can we limit Obama to one thread please. He's not that important thank you! that's what I've been saying all along this is just for fun - relax Eva!
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Post by wankinginthebushes on Jun 18, 2009 12:46:27 GMT -5
Can someone highlight the 'fun' part for me please?
Im having a bit of trouble seeing where it is.
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Post by Beady’s Here Now on Jun 18, 2009 13:43:06 GMT -5
Can someone highlight the 'fun' part for me please? Im having a bit of trouble seeing where it is.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 18, 2009 13:46:21 GMT -5
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Post by NYR on Jun 18, 2009 14:40:06 GMT -5
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Post by Jazzvi on Jun 19, 2009 9:13:33 GMT -5
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Post by warren on Jun 19, 2009 9:17:25 GMT -5
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Post by Beady’s Here Now on Jun 19, 2009 10:20:43 GMT -5
Why is he molesting Michael Jackson?
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Post by NYR on Jun 19, 2009 11:15:57 GMT -5
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Post by joeyfrancis on Jun 19, 2009 11:24:36 GMT -5
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Post by warren on Jun 19, 2009 11:32:50 GMT -5
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Post by NYR on Jun 19, 2009 12:11:25 GMT -5
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