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Post by PsychedelicElvis on Aug 21, 2008 15:28:33 GMT -5
Nevermind style. Watch and mark my words lol
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Post by thuperthonic on Aug 21, 2008 16:20:19 GMT -5
nevermind had choruses. noel said this album doesn't have many. so no lol
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Post by PsychedelicElvis on Aug 21, 2008 16:41:36 GMT -5
nevermind had choruses. noel said this album doesn't have many. so no lol Whats so funny? Not you. sorry
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Post by henrod89 on Aug 21, 2008 19:39:53 GMT -5
They aren't going to be big in America. Get over it. TSOTL may gain some popularity. But in order to be 'BIG', you need to dish out hit after hit after hit. And considering Noel said they'd be lucky to find another song to release after TSOTL, I'm going with no. And remember, he's talking about UK radio.
With DBTT, they somewhat had a chance because I think some of those songs could have made it. Maybe not 'BIG'. But I think some of the songs could have gotten them some popularity again.
But with this album, no chance . . .
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Post by jasonbourne on Aug 21, 2008 21:30:37 GMT -5
No fucking way. Oasis had their chance.
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Post by Oasis39 on Aug 21, 2008 21:40:35 GMT -5
Oasis wont ever be as big here in America as they are in say the UK, they had there chance indeed, but they still can be a pretty big act over here in the states. Alot of people here Love Oasis. Everyone i introduce Oasis to likes them, they just dont hear much about them here. Noel and Liam arent household names here like they are in the UK, but Oasis can still be a pretty big act here in the states for sure. They just dont get promoted enough. Alot of people here in the states dont even know if Oasis is still makin music
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Post by shoofee on Aug 21, 2008 21:45:21 GMT -5
Nevermind style. Watch and mark my words lol Are you nuts? Nevermind was a slow burn. It came out in September and didn't even hit the top 40 until November and hit the top in January 92. This album will debut high just as DBTT debuted relatively strong. I dont think top 10 or even top 5 is out of the question, however following that it will plummet. It will end up selling more than the last 3 Oasis albums, but in no way will it be even close to the phenomenon commercially that Nevermind was. Nevermind also had 3 legitimate hits (Come as you Are, Teen Spirit, Lithium) and 4 if you count In Bloom. It remains to be seen if this album will have even 1 in this country crossover to top 40.
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Post by oasis21128 on Aug 22, 2008 7:51:25 GMT -5
first off...nevermind was a freak instance. "smells like...' was the signal of a changing time in music....and it kicked off a entire new movement, much like britpop in the UK....but it doesn't happen often.
As for being 'big in america'...trust me, i live here and it doesn't mean anything...
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Post by BASIK on Aug 23, 2008 0:28:03 GMT -5
European people can't undestand why in USA Oasis aren't so big after the 90's. In Europe Oasis are one of the biggest band of all time: like Pink Floyd, like Led Zeppelin, like The Doors... For example, there's no difference between U2 and Oasis about the fame. The same thing is in Japan, in Canada and in the rest of the world. In Italy every single person knows Oasis, also the old people.
Why not in the US? In the 90's they were very famous in your country: Morning glory arrived in 3rd position of the chart and Be here now in 2nd. Last year I met an american guy who said me: "Everybody in the US knows Wonderwall". Is it true? Why USA is the only country where Oasis are not big?
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Post by A on Aug 23, 2008 1:01:46 GMT -5
In America, people like love songs, and songs that you can sing along to in the car. Most of the media doesn't like Oasis because they see them as being arrogant. Fuck the media. When Hannah Montana is the biggest musical act in the country, then no good music gets through. And honestly, I kinda don't want them to get big over here. There would be a shit-load of posers who would say they always loved them.
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Post by Mad4it on Aug 23, 2008 1:21:09 GMT -5
European people can't undestand why in USA Oasis aren't so big after the 90's. In Europe Oasis are one of the biggest band of all time: like Pink Floyd, like Led Zeppelin, like The Doors... For example, there's no difference between U2 and Oasis about the fame. The same thing is in Japan, in Canada and in the rest of the world. In Italy every single person knows Oasis, also the old people. Why not in the US? In the 90's they were very famous in your country: Morning glory arrived in 3rd position of the chart and Be here now in 2nd. Last year I met an american guy who said me: "Everybody in the US knows Wonderwall". Is it true? Why USA is the only country where Oasis are not big? it's to do with the attitude of noel and liam they hate.. back in the 90's oasis had a big chance to be big as u2 in america but they fucked up with (tours,mtv awards,unplugged etc) yes every knows wonderwall...but thats about it really. Oasis's bigget selling markets are 1-uk 2-japan 3-italy 4-brazil/argentina/mexico 5-germany
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Post by mostdefomaybe on Aug 23, 2008 4:05:17 GMT -5
who cares...
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Post by Jonny on Aug 23, 2008 6:18:45 GMT -5
Of course you lot all know it's not gonna be a success because you can all see into the future. Ace.
Just wait and fucking see.
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Post by BASIK on Aug 23, 2008 7:23:05 GMT -5
Nevermind style. Watch and mark my words lol Oasis have got their Nevermind yet. They've got two: Definitely maybe and (What's the story) Morning glory?.
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Post by Oasis39 on Aug 23, 2008 11:50:37 GMT -5
In America, everyone knows the song "Wonderwall".....and I mean everyone. Its a very popular song. Most people I have listen to Oasis like them and Ive gotten many of my friends mad into Oasis. When you play people an Oasis song, they will be like 'This is good". I dont think people in America think Oasis is bad, they just dont bother with them for one reason or another. Rap and Hip Hop is very popular over here in the States. You go to a party, you wont ever hear anything Oasis. Ill put on Champagne Supernova and people love that aswell. the most popular Oasis songs in the US are probably 1. Wonderwall 2. Champagne Supernova Some people know DLBIA but even that song alot of people dont know. And noone knows Live Forever unless your a fan
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Post by vespa on Aug 23, 2008 11:58:07 GMT -5
oasis are big in america an there last tour proved it,they sold more tickets than coldplay on the same kinda tour but coldplay are a records sales band.the stones dont sell that many albums in states anymore but still shift 2 million tickets.the fact that also the last few albums have recieved no promotion whatsoever does play a part in poor album sales.they are a big band an are on the up again,with the critics and radio stations,from what weve heard of the songs they are pretty radio friendly as in foo fighters style,falling down could be big.but the shock of the lightning will prove a big hit.its a classic track
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Post by Beady’s Here Now on Aug 23, 2008 15:04:32 GMT -5
I'm big in America, if you know what I mean
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Post by Oasis39 on Aug 23, 2008 16:31:46 GMT -5
Oasis' problem in America is that they are not promoted well at all. If the Oasis camp took time to try and make them big in America, it could happen
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Post by mbe3204m on Aug 23, 2008 19:39:12 GMT -5
People know Live Forever, DLBIA, Champagne Supernova (that song was HUGE here in 96, and was released as a single in the US; they only released it as a promo single in the UK), and Wonderwall. Some know Supersonic; Some Might Say not so much because it was never a single here like it was in the UK.
There are plenty of people in their 20s and 30s who loved the first two Oasis albums back in the day, and know every song on WTSMG? and some on DM. BHN, not so much, but some would be able to identify Don't Go Away and All Around The World (shortened version for radio but mostly it was played on MTV).
If you look back at 95 and 96, the media loved Oasis fore a while, and they were all over the news here. They certainly weren't portrayed in a great light later on, because they weren't media darlings, so they got a reputation for being snobby Brits who hated everyone but themselves and the Beatles. The American public doesn't respond well to that. They were a very polarizing band; the kids I knew in HS who loved Pearl Jam and Live and all those other bands HATED Oasis, for the most part (though some of them, strangely, came around when BHN was released).
They're not as big here as in other countries; however, the last tour taught me something: plenty of people still know them well enough to want to see them live in concert. They filled much larger venues during their last tour than they ever have in the US. That tells me it's more about the promotion at this point than about the media coverage.
Everyone is afraid of Noel saying there are no obvious singles on the record besides the first one, but I think if they have a strong follow up single to TSOTL in the US, the album could be huge, not in terms of sales necessarily but in terms of getting a lot of positive press. I think in terms of a tour, they should be able to sell just as many seats, if not moreso than last time. This is just the stage of career they're in; they'll never chart to #2 again, but the fact that they are around and selling out larger venues in the US, to me, is good enough. Can't do much better in a country that listens to Hannah Montana and second place American Idol finishers.
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Post by mugsy on Aug 23, 2008 20:27:04 GMT -5
Being big in America now means being Hannah Montana or the Jonas Bros. (whoever they are). Thanks, but no thanks.
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Post by Mad4it on Aug 23, 2008 21:04:13 GMT -5
People know Live Forever, DLBIA, Champagne Supernova (that song was HUGE here in 96, and was released as a single in the US; they only released it as a promo single in the UK), and Wonderwall. Some know Supersonic; Some Might Say not so much because it was never a single here like it was in the UK. There are plenty of people in their 20s and 30s who loved the first two Oasis albums back in the day, and know every song on WTSMG? and some on DM. BHN, not so much, but some would be able to identify Don't Go Away and All Around The World (shortened version for radio but mostly it was played on MTV). If you look back at 95 and 96, the media loved Oasis fore a while, and they were all over the news here. They certainly weren't portrayed in a great light later on, because they weren't media darlings, so they got a reputation for being snobby Brits who hated everyone but themselves and the Beatles. The American public doesn't respond well to that. They were a very polarizing band; the kids I knew in HS who loved Pearl Jam and Live and all those other bands HATED Oasis, for the most part (though some of them, strangely, came around when BHN was released). They're not as big here as in other countries; however, the last tour taught me something: plenty of people still know them well enough to want to see them live in concert. They filled much larger venues during their last tour than they ever have in the US. That tells me it's more about the promotion at this point than about the media coverage. Everyone is afraid of Noel saying there are no obvious singles on the record besides the first one, but I think if they have a strong follow up single to TSOTL in the US, the album could be huge, not in terms of sales necessarily but in terms of getting a lot of positive press. I think in terms of a tour, they should be able to sell just as many seats, if not moreso than last time. This is just the stage of career they're in; they'll never chart to #2 again, but the fact that they are around and selling out larger venues in the US, to me, is good enough. Can't do much better in a country that listens to Hannah Montana and second place American Idol finishers. very true Oasis make most of their money from playing live..they played to more than 1.7million people in well over 20 countries for the DBTT tour. So they will always visit the states coz they do play in very respectable sized venues. If TSOTL keeps getting plays AND they have a strong follow up single. The album could have a decent run in the albums chart atleast.
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Post by BasementGuitarist on Aug 23, 2008 23:32:08 GMT -5
I really have a good feeling about DOYS in the US. Just the fact that it was #10 on iTunes albums the other day, just as a pre-order and among currently-available albums, shows that there is some real potential here. I think people are awakening to the fact that Oasis is still around, so if they can continue to promote the album and the shows well, I really think that a Billboard top 10 debut would not at all be out of the question.
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Post by Mad4it on Aug 24, 2008 1:19:54 GMT -5
I really have a good feeling about DOYS in the US. Just the fact that it was #10 on iTunes albums the other day, just as a pre-order and among currently-available albums, shows that there is some real potential here. I think people are awakening to the fact that Oasis is still around, so if they can continue to promote the album and the shows well, I really think that a Billboard top 10 debut would not at all be out of the question. though it has fallen down since...so i would expect that most oasis fans were to do with it being that high. And yes its possible that it will debut in the top10...but whether it has consistent sales is another thing. DBTT made #12 and it took around 2years for it to shift 200,000copies...despite starting off good with 65,000sales first week!!..And then you look at Definitely maybe only peaked at #58 in america yet has certified shipment sales of 1million...so its not just the case of how high it reaches it's the case of "can it do well, without the hardcore fans buying it first week ??" I'm going to say that i do strongly believe this album will be their best selling album in america since Be here now...but that isn't really saying that much. Like i said it all depends on how well the promo goes.
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Post by thuperthonic on Aug 24, 2008 2:41:43 GMT -5
i don't care anymore.
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Post by anthmcc on Aug 26, 2008 10:15:09 GMT -5
I've never understood the fascination with this. I personally wouldn't feel Oasis were somehow a better band if they were more popular in the US and more successful on the Billboard. The argument that Oasis lost face in 1996 because of canceled shows and arrogant behavior doesn't hold as much weight anymore either. This will be their fifth release since then, and they have had several successful tours. In fact their tours are more extensive and to a slightly larger audience than back then. You could argue that Bush were more successful in the US than the UK, and that The Killers are more successful in the UK than the US. How do you figure that out.
It is what it is.
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