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Post by calioasis on Aug 17, 2008 21:49:13 GMT -5
Something I have never understood: Oasis is continually bashed by the music press for "bad" lyrics and yet Radiohead always gets a free pass.
Radiohead is progressive because of their sound, but unlike Pink Floyd they frequently have AWFUL lyrics. I can never tell what the hell they are singing about, even after reading the lyric sheet. I have listened to OK computer and the Bends many times and I can't tell you off the top of my head a lyric that meant that much to me. Contrast that with Pink Floyd's 'Time' off of Dark Side.
Now I'm sure if I geek out and study them there is something there, but that usually means the songwriter hasn't done his job. And who has the time or interest to do that? Music critics! they love it.
Don't confuse simple with bad in this case. The Shock lyrics perfectly transmit the idea and vibe the song is trying to get across, and complement the energy and sound of the music. Those are great lyrics! Contrast this with 'I can see a liar, sitting by the fire'. In that case it is simple and bad. Though with Liam singing it still sounds cool of course.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 18, 2008 0:09:30 GMT -5
Let's go for a direct comparison. I call this Round 1 TSOTL vs True Love Waits
TSOTL: Love is a litany, A Magical Mystery
True Love Waits: And true love lives On lollipops and crisps
Which is worse? You decide!
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Post by Deleted on Aug 18, 2008 1:33:10 GMT -5
The eye does something to the journalists.
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Post by mbe3204m on Aug 18, 2008 7:44:30 GMT -5
It's a fair point; because Oasis' music is more accessible to the mainstream, they don't get the pass that Radiohead (read: media darlings) get in their lyrics and music. I won't go so far as to say Oasis' lyrics are deeper or more meaningful than those of Radiohead, I think people just need to realize that Oasis' job was never to dream up complex lyrics for people to decode. You have to remember, too, that Noel doesn't usually talk about what his lyrics mean or who might have inspired them (with the exception of Wonderwall & Cast No Shadow, maybe a couple of others). Thom Yorke isn't out there saying "this means this, that lyric is a reference to [fill in the blank], but sometimes it's not difficult to decipher what he's talking about, and sometimes his lyrics are simply overrated.
In fact, take a look at the dark, complex lyrics from You and Whose Army?:
Come on, come on You think you drive me crazy, well Come on, come on You and whose army? You and your cronies Come on, come on Holy Roman empire Come on if you think Come on if you think You can take us on You can take us on
You and whose army? You and your cronies
You forget so easily
We ride tonight We ride tonight Ghost horses Ghost horses
We ride tonight We ride tonight Ghost horses Ghost horses Ghost horses
Oh, so sad Oh, so sad Oh, so sad Oh, so sad
I mean...? Noel could have written that too. Ooo, a reference to the Roman Empire, Yorke is so deep!
Sorry, I love Radiohead, but I hate the morons in the press and the Radiohead fanboys always bashing bands like Oasis as if Radiohead is ultra-deep. They're not. "We write pop songs; that's what we do" - Yorke's own words from an MTV interview after Kid A was released.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 18, 2008 7:57:27 GMT -5
its music listen and enjoy, radiohead are superb
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