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Post by Columbus Egg on Jun 28, 2008 23:44:40 GMT -5
I've been thinking of getting a turntable and grabbing some of my favorite music on vinyl, but I'm not sold on it yet because if it's not that great a difference it's a waste of money ... it's just been ages since I've heard anything off a record.
For the most part, is there any real superiority in sound with bands that produce like Oasis do as compared to older bands?
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Post by MEANSTREAK on Jun 29, 2008 12:39:43 GMT -5
if you like the crackly, sort of scratchy sounds started and ending a record preoduces it's better. Otherwise it's all just nostalgia IMHO...as for the money I would think you're better off buying some high end digital equipment and getting music on superbit DVD releases.
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Post by nyr401994 on Jun 29, 2008 18:40:02 GMT -5
it depends on everyone's tastes. some people i know like digital audio the best, which is much cleaner and more defined. however, i, for myself, like the warmth of vinyl better. vinyl's sounds could never be fully replicated on any other format.
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Post by mimmihopps on Jun 30, 2008 0:27:29 GMT -5
it depends on everyone's tastes. some people i know like digital audio the best, which is much cleaner and more defined. however, i, for myself, like the warmth of vinyl better. vinyl's sounds could never be fully replicated on any other format. Agreed.
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Post by MEANSTREAK on Jun 30, 2008 3:54:44 GMT -5
it depends on everyone's tastes. some people i know like digital audio the best, which is much cleaner and more defined. however, i, for myself, like the warmth of vinyl better. vinyl's sounds could never be fully replicated on any other format. define "warmth of vinyl" por favor I like Ford trucks, and everytime I sit in a Chevy or Dodge I don't like it because something about Ford trucks just feels better. You can't really define it, like you said it's all about personal preferences. If you are kinda old school and like rock n' roll you tend to prefer vinyl for the classic feel to it. No doubt today's very high end diamond tipped turntables can sound amazing, but for the money I would prefer a more future proof digital set-up.
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Post by adamhannah on Jul 1, 2008 0:23:00 GMT -5
The sound is different, maybe better depending on your taste. Its the album art, putting the needle on, listening to it the whole way through. Its taking you back to a different time. If you want better sound for the same price, go digital high end, if you want pure awesome, stick on Sgt Peppers on vinyl and go on a trip through time.
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Post by mrmojorisen on Jul 3, 2008 18:03:07 GMT -5
vinyl does win the battle but once those glitches start appearing it does get annoying. But for overall sound vinyl is the bollocks.
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Post by nyr401994 on Jul 4, 2008 15:47:49 GMT -5
it depends on everyone's tastes. some people i know like digital audio the best, which is much cleaner and more defined. however, i, for myself, like the warmth of vinyl better. vinyl's sounds could never be fully replicated on any other format. define "warmth of vinyl" por favor I like Ford trucks, and everytime I sit in a Chevy or Dodge I don't like it because something about Ford trucks just feels better. You can't really define it, like you said it's all about personal preferences. If you are kinda old school and like rock n' roll you tend to prefer vinyl for the classic feel to it. No doubt today's very high end diamond tipped turntables can sound amazing, but for the money I would prefer a more future proof digital set-up. sure thing. digital has a more clear cut sound where it sounds a lot brighter than what you would hear on vinyl. this is because most modern recordings ('90s onward) were recorded digitally. meanwhile, older recordings were analog. that's why, i think, vinyl is considered more warm. it's like comparing a humbucker to a lipstick pickup, in guitar terms (the humbucker is warmer and the lipstick is brighter). analog and the remasters of analog recordings onto digital formats just don't cut it for me. i just always liked analog recordings better.
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Post by MEANSTREAK on Jul 8, 2008 12:54:15 GMT -5
The sound is different, maybe better depending on your taste. Its the album art, putting the needle on, listening to it the whole way through. Its taking you back to a different time. If you want better sound for the same price, go digital high end, if you want pure awesome, stick on Sgt Peppers on vinyl and go on a trip through time. like I said vinyl rules in terms of nostalgia! I do agree the album art is cooler to have in the big size though.
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Post by caro on Jul 8, 2008 13:52:41 GMT -5
Vinyls look great for the sake of a collection
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Post by stirling on Jul 8, 2008 15:40:23 GMT -5
The sound frequency range for cd are only those frequencies audiable to the human ear. This is save space on the discs to so they can fit more music on.
With vinyl sound frequencies are present that are not audiable to the human ear, and while the human ear cannot hear these, it does affect the dynamic of the sound, and so will be a truer representation of the soungs being played in the studio.
This is more relevant with older albums, such as the Beatles, where eveything was recorded on analog machines, rather than the digital technology used today.
I always by oasis albums on both cd and vinyl, and prefer listening to the vinyls, but obviously the cd are more practical, for the car etc.
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Post by herecomesthenice on Jul 8, 2008 17:52:34 GMT -5
Any audiophyle will tell you that it has much more to do with your receiver, cables, and speakers than it does the format. What it boils down to is this... if it is made in China, it is most likely shit. If it is an upper end Japanese product (Onkyo, Dennon, etc) it is pretty good shit. If it isnt mass produced and puts out the proper amount of power (like a rotel or mckintosh) it will sound like absolute heaven. A full Rotel system is about $4,000 and a full Mckintosh system costs about $40,000. Get a Dennon system with monster cables and both will sounds pretty good as long as your vinyl cartridge is decent.
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Post by thebeerbaron1 on Jul 9, 2008 17:25:08 GMT -5
music is played by a live band in annalogue! didgital is ok for space saving and portable devices/downloads but i would advice you to get your favourite albums on vinyl and listen to the difference, plus the covers are so cool. led zep covers says it all.
springsteens darkness is way better on vinyl! you can hear everything even studio noises in the background which i love. the cd is a poor runner up.
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Post by webm@ster on Jul 9, 2008 18:18:56 GMT -5
music is played by a live band in annalogue! didgital is ok for space saving and portable devices/downloads but i would advice you to get your favourite albums on vinyl and listen to the difference, plus the covers are so cool. led zep covers says it all. springsteens darkness is way better on vinyl! you can hear everything even studio noises in the background which i love. the cd is a poor runner up. great to see the one and only Baron posting
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Post by Let It Bleed on Oct 11, 2014 16:38:19 GMT -5
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Post by mememe26 on Oct 11, 2014 18:15:48 GMT -5
Surely music will only sound better on vinyl if it's been recorded on anologue? If it's been digitally recorded then put onto vinyl it won't sound any different?
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Post by Let It Bleed on Feb 3, 2023 5:45:35 GMT -5
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Post by megyesitomate on Feb 3, 2023 10:09:10 GMT -5
It’s (Probably) All In The Mind.
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Post by The Invisible Sun on Feb 3, 2023 11:55:54 GMT -5
If you spend thousands on high end equipment, it's probably better. But not on the low end. Still though, on the low end, it still sounds good. I swear I can sometimes hear instruments that the digital versions don't quite pick up. But really, vinyl is just good fun, listening and collecting. It's an experience. It feels like it matters in comparison to just clicking some digital file.
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Post by welshylad on Feb 3, 2023 19:04:46 GMT -5
Of youve got a good system to play it on vinyl Beats every If your going to play vinyls on like those record players in a box things then its shite, why things like this are invented puzzles me
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Post by justaroundmidnight on Feb 3, 2023 20:34:19 GMT -5
Nearly everything is made in China - even Rotel and Denon that you mention. I think you may be referring to "Chi-Fi" which has come on leaps and bounds over the last 5 or so years. Companies lie Fiio, Topping, SMSL, Loxjie etc. all make high-end products.
About Vinyl - the industry moved on, many people weren’t ready to and didn't. I recall CDs were criticised for being too clean sounding. Subsequently, the original audio tracks then were often "digitally remastered" for CD.
The biggest con going is that modern music is digitally recorded and mastered, but pressed to vinyl for analogue playback!
Even cassette is making a comeback. Nostalgia is a powerful marketing tool.
New audio equipment and file formats/media is capable of a very high resolution, detailed, clean sound, with better soundstage and imaging. For these reasons I prefer a modern-day setup.
The more you spend on your setup, the better the sound will be. Of course one has to factor in diminishing returns after a certain price point. You can spend thousands of pounds/dollars on a turntable alone. Speakers are the most important part of any set up.
When using digital audio formats, some people use tube amplification to create the warmer sound of vinyl.
Whatever floats your boat. Music is a personal thing. Experiment. You could have a system which incorporates both. It's up to you what you prefer.
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Post by mancraider on Feb 4, 2023 6:27:39 GMT -5
I've got a nice vinyl set up at home and love it. Not massively expensive, hundreds rather than thousands, but good enough for me. Denon amp, 3ft wharfdale speakers. Saying that, the vast majority of music I listen is still through my phone, while driving in car, at work etc. The amount of time I get to sit and listen to record is comparatively small. Really enjoy the tactile experience of putting a record on though.
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