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Post by DixonHill on Aug 22, 2005 15:42:55 GMT -5
seeing as no-one else has...
Gaza settler evacuation completed
The removal of 8,500 Israelis from 21 settlements in the Gaza Strip is complete, Israel's army commander in the region has said. "Right now there are no Israeli settlements in the Gaza Strip," said Maj-Gen Dan Harel.
He was speaking after the last Jewish settlement - Netzarim - was evacuated following tearful prayers by residents.
Stiff resistance is expected in the West Bank, when forced eviction starts at two settlements on Tuesday.
Thousands of troops are now being redeployed to the West Bank for the final piece of the operation.
After the Gaza pull-out, the Israeli and Palestinian leaders spoke by phone - their first conversation for two months.
Palestinian Prime Minister Mahmoud Abbas had called Ariel Sharon and expressed hope the withdrawal would open a new page in relations, Mr Sharon's office said.
President George W Bush hailed the Gaza evacuation as an "historic step" that would bolster the search for peace in the Middle East.
Defiance
Netzarim was one of the first settlements to be erected in Gaza.
Israeli police and soldiers moved into the settlement without any resistance, going door-to-door telling settlers it was time to go.
Then everyone gathered in the synagogue for more than three hours of emotional singing, chanting, prayers and speeches.
The protesters, many of whom were almost in a state of hysteria, allowed themselves to be carried onto the waiting buses.
Some held banners aloft saying: "You can destroy our homes, but not our spirit."
"We are leaving against our will, but we are not going with our heads bowed," said Rabbi Zion Tawil.
"The saplings which are being uprooted here, we will replant throughout the country until we make our return to Netzarim."
This settlement of Netzarim was among the most hated by the Palestinians, who have been kept away from its walls and fences by guns and acres of bulldozed land.
"They are very bad neighbours," said Saadi Helo, a Palestinian farmer quoted by the Associated Press news agency.
"They turned our lives into nightmares. They occupied the land, levelled our farms, demolished our houses, killed our beloved and spared no effort to attack us."
'Painful situation'
Israeli Prime Minister Ariel Sharon, the architect of the withdrawal plan, earlier visited some of the troops involved in the emotional clearances from Gaza and praised their work.
Mr Sharon also praised the way settlers had dealt with the operation, in what he called a "very difficult and painful situation".
Residents of two West Bank settlements due to be evacuated have already left, but an estimated 2,000 activists have gathered at two others - Sanur and Homesh - and are expected to mount fierce resistance.
The military says armed troops may be deployed to clear the two settlements, a shift from the policy in Gaza where all troops were unarmed.
But the BBC's Matthew Price, in Sanur, reports that settlers have handed in their weapons and have pledged to resist eviction fiercely but without violence.
Israeli bulldozers have been demolishing homes in the empty Gaza settlements.
The demolition work - expected to take several weeks - is being carried out in agreement with the Palestinian Authority, which will assume responsibility for the land once the Israeli army has left.
The final departure of troops is expected within about a month, once army bases and military installations have been dismantled.
The Palestinian Authority is expected to use much of the land to build new housing for Gaza's overcrowded population.
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Post by wash25 on Aug 22, 2005 15:47:26 GMT -5
LOL they called them "extremists."
Yasser Arafat wasn't even called an "extremist." Not even the suicide bombers are called extremists. Hamas isn't even called extremist! But the people pissed off about being kicked out of their house are "extremists." HAHA.
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Post by giggergrl on Aug 23, 2005 16:44:44 GMT -5
read it, seems 2 be step in right direction... only my 2 cents.. for the roadMAP 2 peace...this has been in the works 4 long time and other factors over time... i do not give the dubya any credit 2 be honest...
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Post by wash25 on Aug 23, 2005 18:10:42 GMT -5
While we're at it I think the U.S. should give America back to the Indians. And Tibet. Come on China let's follow a roadmap to peace hahahaha.
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Post by wash25 on Aug 23, 2005 18:12:07 GMT -5
And what about the visigoths man? What's up with stealing their land?
Oh, but that's an immature argument, isn't it? After all, we all know there's a statute of limitations on stealing land. If you can keep it long enough, like the U.S., the U.K., France, and every other existing nation on Earth has-- the land you steal is eventually considered yours.
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Post by giggergrl on Aug 24, 2005 0:22:30 GMT -5
DUDE, I DO SEE WHAT YA MEAN.. however, the palestinians live in squalid conditions and r overcrowded.. no jobs, no future...not to mention, the next time ppl roll into yer parent's house, take it, put you in a ghetto, that overlooks the riches of others.. u may change yer mind.. just a thought.. they don't need the strip... this is an act of some compromise.. a gesture..it cld help ..maybe not.. ppl generally don't get over this shit.. they shld however build a HUGE FUCKING WALL AROUND AND IN B/T isreal vs palestinian turf... honestly..
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Post by masterplan200 on Aug 24, 2005 0:35:33 GMT -5
Ariel Sharon, f*ck off! He lost his finance minister to this
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Post by wash25 on Aug 24, 2005 1:03:27 GMT -5
Ya fuck Ariel Sharon. Everyone who lives on stolen land should return it. So I guess we're all moving to Antarctica. Woo! HAHA.
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Post by wash25 on Aug 24, 2005 1:06:31 GMT -5
LOL ya...only thing is the American Indians were treated about 100x worse after the Americans stole their land. In fact, b4 the Europeans, there were 80 million Indians. Now there are like, 112 or something.
So ya...surely, in the interest of fairness, you also advocate that the U.S. give the land back to the Indians. I mean, why not Wyoming? Hell, the U.S. doesn't need it! The U.S. needs Wyoming about as much as Israel needs the Gaza Strip.
I mean what is the diff really? There is one, giant difference...what could it be...what could it be...
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Post by giggergrl on Aug 24, 2005 19:32:16 GMT -5
LOL ya...only thing is the American Indians were treated about 100x worse after the Americans stole their land. In fact, b4 the Europeans, there were 80 million Indians. Now there are like, 112 or something. So ya...surely, in the interest of fairness, you also advocate that the U.S. give the land back to the Indians. I mean, why not Wyoming? Hell, the U.S. doesn't need it! The U.S. needs Wyoming about as much as Israel needs the Gaza Strip. I mean what is the diff really? There is one, giant difference...what could it be...what could it be... dude, the native americans do not engage in terrorism , & not waging a war currently.. middle east is a fucking hot bed and it is affecting the rest of the world now, even the safety of europe for fuck's sake.. see the difference...
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Post by Currian on Aug 25, 2005 10:53:11 GMT -5
It's cool. Peace'll come closer.
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Post by wash25 on Aug 25, 2005 13:11:39 GMT -5
So you're telling me that, the reason the Palestinians are on their way to getting their own state-- while the Indians aren't-- is that the Palestinians engaged in terrorism and the Indians didn't?
I mean, that's it basically, ya? Stupid indians...
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Post by giggergrl on Aug 25, 2005 20:31:36 GMT -5
So you're telling me that, the reason the Palestinians are on their way to getting their own state-- while the Indians aren't-- is that the Palestinians engaged in terrorism and the Indians didn't? I mean, that's it basically, ya? Stupid indians...[/qu YES.... ONE IS HIGH PROFILE WORLD WIDE AND OTHER IS NOT... OUR GOV'T GAVE NATIVE AMERICANS LOUSY RESERVATIONS, LOTS OF GOV'T CHEESE, PEANUT BUTTER 2 GIVE EM HEART ATTACKS, PLENTY OF BOOZE, ETC ETC... IT APPARENTLY KEEPS THEM CONTAINED.. I KNOW COS I BEEN TO SEVERAL RESERVATIONS IN NY STATE, SD, MONTANA , WYOMING ETC...THEY GOT LOBBYISTS IN DC AND ALL AND THEY TRY... REALLY ASHAME BUT THE POINT HERE IS THE GAZA STRIP... FUCK WE WLD MAKE A GOOD DEBATE TEAM MAYBE...
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Post by wash25 on Aug 25, 2005 23:25:31 GMT -5
Ya a nasty dirty sex hair-pulling debate team. Yesssss! It's what I've always wanted.
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Post by nyr401994 on Aug 30, 2005 22:33:31 GMT -5
next, the golan heights... after that, tel aviv... after that, jerusalem... why not just give the arabs the whole fucking country?
they still won't be happy, for fuck's sake.
oh, and by the way, this all shows that israel is in it for peace.
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