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Post by Dominic on Jun 27, 2005 5:07:57 GMT -5
has anyone seen this about the Guildford Four? Danial Day Lewis stars as Gerard Conlon, powerfull film, and its scary to thing that whole episode wasnt all that look ago. "His Only Crime Was Being Irish - And In The Wrong Place"
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Post by globe on Jun 27, 2005 5:09:46 GMT -5
Great film.
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Post by Dominic on Jun 27, 2005 5:56:01 GMT -5
eye opening
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Post by globe on Jun 27, 2005 6:00:24 GMT -5
Not half, I cant believe the police involved didnt get charged with any offences. They're all on police pensions probably living a life of luxury while those guys spent 20 years of their lives in jail for something they didnt do. It wasnt just those guys it happened to either, you had the Birmingham six etc too. Scary stuff.
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Post by Dominic on Jun 27, 2005 6:04:16 GMT -5
shocking like, its slightly simplified in the film, but how the police and the establishment kept the statement of a nun hidden which cleared all members is absolutly criminal, and Gerard Conlon only got out in the last 15 years, quite unbeleiveable
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Post by globe on Jun 27, 2005 6:16:18 GMT -5
shocking like, its slightly simplified in the film, but how the police and the establishment kept the statement of a nun hidden which cleared all members is absolutly criminal, and Gerard Conlon only got out in the last 15 years, quite unbeleiveable It seems being a young man from Northern Ireland living on the mainland in the 1970's was a crime in itself in the eyes of some police officers / politicians.
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Post by Dominic on Jun 27, 2005 6:30:54 GMT -5
and its strange that its not read about in the ciriculim, or seen on TV, everything i know about what went on ive been told through family or word of mouth, i think more should be done to show what the establishment did to the young men whose only crime was being Irish
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Post by Currian on Jun 27, 2005 13:16:06 GMT -5
Just a question, whas that the film about these guys who are accused of bombing this place where a lotta people died? And with this guy who's father Guiseppe dies in the prison? And that this guy who actually did it came in there and attacked some guards with a flamethrower? 'Cause if that's the case then it's a beatiful film which I saw couple of years ago and I'll buy it on DVD right now.
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Post by Dominic on Jun 27, 2005 13:33:41 GMT -5
thats the one
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Post by globe on Jun 27, 2005 13:40:51 GMT -5
Just a question, whas that the film about these guys who are accused of bombing this place where a lotta people died? And with this guy who's father Guiseppe dies in the prison? And that this guy who actually did it came in there and attacked some guards with a flamethrower? 'Cause if that's the case then it's a beatiful film which I saw couple of years ago and I'll buy it on DVD right now. Aye the very one. I have to say that Pete Postlewait gives a brilliant performance as Guiseppe in the film
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Post by Currian on Jun 27, 2005 14:04:58 GMT -5
Yes man it's the best film I ever watched I think. But I forgot the fucking name eh? ;D
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Post by Dominic on Jun 27, 2005 14:52:46 GMT -5
Just a question, whas that the film about these guys who are accused of bombing this place where a lotta people died? And with this guy who's father Guiseppe dies in the prison? And that this guy who actually did it came in there and attacked some guards with a flamethrower? 'Cause if that's the case then it's a beatiful film which I saw couple of years ago and I'll buy it on DVD right now. Aye the very one. I have to say that Pete Postlewait gives a brilliant performance as Guiseppe in the film he recently spoke out about tony blairs pathetic apology to the family of the four, Pete Postlewait obviously got into the role, i know many people who honestly would never trust an english person again because of cases like that, its sad really, people are still bitter, but hopefully with time people are forgiven but considering the irish character, never forgotton
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Post by Dominic on Jun 27, 2005 14:53:33 GMT -5
its 4.99 on play.com and deilivery is free, i might get that
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Post by globe on Jun 27, 2005 15:02:04 GMT -5
Aye the very one. I have to say that Pete Postlewait gives a brilliant performance as Guiseppe in the film he recently spoke out about tony blairs pathetic apology to the family of the four, Pete Postlewait obviously got into the role, i know many people who honestly would never trust an english person again because of cases like that, its sad really, people are still bitter, but hopefully with time people are forgiven but considering the irish character, never forgotton Yeah I read about that actually, but I'd like to see it being be the police officers who framed them who are doing the apologies though.
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Post by Dominic on Jun 27, 2005 15:24:13 GMT -5
he recently spoke out about tony blairs pathetic apology to the family of the four, Pete Postlewait obviously got into the role, i know many people who honestly would never trust an english person again because of cases like that, its sad really, people are still bitter, but hopefully with time people are forgiven but considering the irish character, never forgotton Yeah I read about that actually, but I'd like to see it being be the police officers who framed them who are doing the apologies though. i doubt we'll ever see that, as you said, probably off enjoying theyre nice pention
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Post by globe on Jun 27, 2005 15:29:11 GMT -5
Yeah I read about that actually, but I'd like to see it being be the police officers who framed them who are doing the apologies though. i doubt we'll ever see that, as you said, probably off enjoying theyre nice pention Oh aye, there is no way that will ever happen, but it would be good to see the bastard squirm.
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Post by feckarse on Jun 27, 2005 17:56:48 GMT -5
quite right lads, it's a top film... and top job by Danny D
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Post by Dominic on Jun 27, 2005 18:03:21 GMT -5
this film has annoyed mer actually, be researching similar cases all day, and spoke to my dad and older people about it, its unbeliveble to think that they only got freed in my life time, its bearly history and yet seems to be never adressed
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Post by feckarse on Jun 27, 2005 18:18:14 GMT -5
this film has annoyed mer actually, be researching similar cases all day, and spoke to my dad and older people about it, its unbeliveble to think that they only got freed in my life time, its bearly history and yet seems to be never adressed very true however, you do always need to be careful not to be too influenced by specifics in the film I'm not claiming to know much about what the particular details of what actually happened, but whenever films are made, they are made to target an audience rather than tell a 100% truthful story & please don't get me wrong, i'm not saying that none of this happened, or any of that shite - the essence of the story was depicted correctly... i just think sometimes it's important to remember that it is a film, not a documentary (eg in Michael Collins, if you've seen it, there's a great scene with a car bomb exploding........ set pre-1920........ car bombs weren't invented until the 50's!) Although from the sounds of it you have been doing your research, which makes me wonder why i'm even making this point !
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Post by Dominic on Jun 27, 2005 18:21:53 GMT -5
this film has annoyed mer actually, be researching similar cases all day, and spoke to my dad and older people about it, its unbeliveble to think that they only got freed in my life time, its bearly history and yet seems to be never adressed very true however, you do always need to be careful not to be too influenced by specifics in the film I'm not claiming to know much about what the particular details of what actually happened, but whenever films are made, they are made to target an audience rather than tell a 100% truthful story & please don't get me wrong, i'm not saying that none of this happened, or any of that shite - the essence of the story was depicted correctly... i just think sometimes it's important to remember that it is a film, not a documentary (eg in Michael Collins, if you've seen it, there's a great scene with a car bomb exploding........ set pre-1920........ car bombs weren't invented until the 50's!) Although from the sounds of it you have been doing your research, which makes me wonder why i'm even making this point ! oh i know, there are things simplified in the film, such as gerry and guseippi never shared a jail cell, and the whole evidence thing was more complacted
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Post by Dominic on Jul 12, 2005 15:12:29 GMT -5
I'm an innocent man. I spent 15 years in prison for something I didn't do. I watched my father die in a British prison for something he didn't do. And this government still says he's guilty. I want to tell them that until my father is proved innocent, until all the people involved in this case are proved innocent, until the guilty ones are brought to justice, I will fight on. In the name of my father and of the truth!
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Post by Currian on Jul 12, 2005 15:22:06 GMT -5
That's right.
Will it ever happen?
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Post by Dominic on Jul 12, 2005 15:23:15 GMT -5
never, as globe said, probably living on a nice police pention now, rest of there lives in comfort
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Post by nyr401994 on Jul 12, 2005 18:45:17 GMT -5
i gotta see this movie
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