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Post by jilliam on Feb 21, 2005 21:02:48 GMT -5
Well I've done it now. I went out last night to Guitar center on the Sunset Strip right over my house and bought my 1st guitar. For years of wanting one I went out and bought a starter accoustic Fender DG-8S. Yeah I bought a guitar in box. Im gonna be playing with Noel Gallagher (on all my oasis dvd's) everyday til I fig. it out how to actually play it. I called her "Sally" Just thought Id share. Any tips?
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Post by nyr401994 on Feb 21, 2005 21:32:54 GMT -5
good job! get yourself a chord book, learn from that, play with your favorite music, try and learn the solos you want to learn, fiddle around, and develop your own style. that's what it's all about.
if you have any help, just pm me, and i'll give you tips on whatever you need guitar-wise.
here's a good hint, not sure if this is too early to give: watch concert movies of your favorite guitarists (i watched a lot of b.b. king, srv, noel, jimi, and pete- a LOT of pete) and see what they do. try and work it out into what you do, and it'll sound really cool when you mesh those sounds together.
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Post by jilliam on Feb 21, 2005 22:22:21 GMT -5
Hey thx Im acutally well gutted that some one actually repsonded with kind words and not some smart ass joke or remark. Thx I'll do all that you said. I'll keep you posted on my progress.
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Post by shakrmakr on Feb 21, 2005 23:33:39 GMT -5
Learning from Noel will teach you proper chords not just power chord shit. Pete Townshend and Noel Gallagher are two great chord progression players. For soloing I look at Slash and Jimmy Page and Jimi Hendrix. BB King will help you with some good starter blues solos or licks.
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Post by StepOut on Feb 22, 2005 1:50:41 GMT -5
I think Noel is a good all around guitarist. Can play rhythm and lead very well.
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Post by Eggy on Feb 22, 2005 10:38:49 GMT -5
go to www.guitartabs.cc and look for your fav songs. try to play from your sheet. its just for a start
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Post by wankinginthebushes on Feb 22, 2005 12:45:39 GMT -5
best peice of advice i ever got was...
there will be a few times when you think your not learning anything and its to hard. i wanted to throw the damn thing outta my window quite a few times....DONT. just keep at it. practice practice and you guessed it, practice.
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Post by BigStar on Feb 22, 2005 13:38:40 GMT -5
Welcome to the world of guitar! Cheesy as it sounds I'm excited for you. I remember how freaking hard it was at first but, here's some things I found that helped.
Learn the "cowboy" chords first. That's all the first position "open string" chords E-F-G-A-B-C-D. And be prepared cuz F and B are gonna hurt, though if you stay with it you'll get it. Start with E-A-D or G-D-C and you'll figure out about 1 million songs right there. Easy guitar books usually have these and I find they developed my ear better than actual spot on transcriptions because I had to find what wasn't in there. Also, you'll start to hear that all transcriptions are not created equally, this is important to add your own feel to songs. Get something easy you know. I had an ELO one twenty-odd years ago and since I knew the melodies and could sing them, my playing developed much quicker.
Learn how to count and keep time. A drum machine is great but, be able to do it in your head. 1-2-3-4, 1-2-3-4. This is so critical because I've played with a million guitar players who were technically proficient in the bedroom but, fell apart when they had to feel the beat and interact with others. Nothing is worse than someone who consistently speeds up or "rushes" the beat. Drummers will kill you if you don't listen to them. And if they speed up, get another drummer.
Find a chord poster or chart. One of those cheesy one's you can get at Walmart are awesome. Once you get the hang of adding one simple finger to make a sus 4 and whatnot you're off and running.
Two string chords are the best freaking cheat ever invented. I once saw a guy doing this on electric and I said, that's it? You don't have to play at least four strings? Put your index finger on a low string and your ring finger two frets up on the higher string. Then slide them around. Then drop your index finger down one fret and notice how that sounds. There's another million songs and everything in the Cars catalog. But, while punk is awesome it's not gonna get you the minor 7th beauties in an Oasis song.
Now for soloing get yourself a pentatonic scale chart. It's a relatively simple (though it looks like a beast at first) five pattern fret positions that allow you to solo all over the neck. The great thing about guitar is if you want play in "A" you start on the fifth fret, if you want to play in "B" you simply move the same patterns two frets up. If you get this you can jam with anybody anytime and learn most every rock solo out there by ear.
Next find somebody to play with. This really helps because they can show you stuff and you can learn stuff by jamming. I took my nine-year old put him on keyboard and said, just play the white keys as I banged out a rythm for G-D-C. We did a twenty minute jam. He said, man that was kind of long. I said, that's how you do it and by the way you had three of four good ideas in there.
Lastly, appreciate your individual style. I grew up in the 80s and my style gravitated more towards Creedence, ZZ Top and Neil Young, which was not cool with Eddie and Yngwie and all the other shredders. I wanted to play like Eddie, learned parts of Eruption and whatnot but, just couldn't do it. Then the 90s came and when I heard Nirvana and Pearl Jam I was like, dang why didn't I do that?? But, I can play with people who are 10 or people who are 80 so, that's what I pride myself on and I've got enough style to call my own.
Now if I could ever get Steely Dan's Royal Scam down, I'd be able to die happy.
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Post by thepicturesgeneration on Feb 22, 2005 16:45:48 GMT -5
Welcome to the world of guitar! Cheesy as it sounds I'm excited for you. I remember how freaking hard it was at first but, here's some things I found that helped. Learn the "cowboy" chords first. That's all the first position "open string" chords E-F-G-A-B-C-D. And be prepared cuz F and B are gonna hurt, though if you stay with it you'll get it. Start with E-A-D or G-D-C and you'll figure out about 1 million songs right there. Easy guitar books usually have these and I find they developed my ear better than actual spot on transcriptions because I had to find what wasn't in there. Also, you'll start to hear that all transcriptions are not created equally, this is important to add your own feel to songs. Get something easy you know. I had an ELO one twenty-odd years ago and since I knew the melodies and could sing them, my playing developed much quicker. Learn how to count and keep time. A drum machine is great but, be able to do it in your head. 1-2-3-4, 1-2-3-4. This is so critical because I've played with a million guitar players who were technically proficient in the bedroom but, fell apart when they had to feel the beat and interact with others. Nothing is worse than someone who consistently speeds up or "rushes" the beat. Drummers will kill you if you don't listen to them. And if they speed up, get another drummer. Find a chord poster or chart. One of those cheesy one's you can get at Walmart are awesome. Once you get the hang of adding one simple finger to make a sus 4 and whatnot you're off and running. Two string chords are the best freaking cheat ever invented. I once saw a guy doing this on electric and I said, that's it? You don't have to play at least four strings? Put your index finger on a low string and your ring finger two frets up on the higher string. Then slide them around. Then drop your index finger down one fret and notice how that sounds. There's another million songs and everything in the Cars catalog. But, while punk is awesome it's not gonna get you the minor 7th beauties in an Oasis song. Now for soloing get yourself a pentatonic scale chart. It's a relatively simple (though it looks like a beast at first) five pattern fret positions that allow you to solo all over the neck. The great thing about guitar is if you want play in "A" you start on the fifth fret, if you want to play in "B" you simply move the same patterns two frets up. If you get this you can jam with anybody anytime and learn most every rock solo out there by ear. Next find somebody to play with. This really helps because they can show you stuff and you can learn stuff by jamming. I took my nine-year old put him on keyboard and said, just play the white keys as I banged out a rythm for G-D-C. We did a twenty minute jam. He said, man that was kind of long. I said, that's how you do it and by the way you had three of four good ideas in there. Lastly, appreciate your individual style. I grew up in the 80s and my style gravitated more towards Creedence, ZZ Top and Neil Young, which was not cool with Eddie and Yngwie and all the other shredders. I wanted to play like Eddie, learned parts of Eruption and whatnot but, just couldn't do it. Then the 90s came and when I heard Nirvana and Pearl Jam I was like, dang why didn't I do that?? But, I can play with people who are 10 or people who are 80 so, that's what I pride myself on and I've got enough style to call my own. Now if I could ever get Steely Dan's Royal Scam down, I'd be able to die happy. Thanks dad...geez
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Post by BigStar on Feb 22, 2005 17:48:20 GMT -5
Ha, you busted me. I guess that wasn't very rock n roll was it? I wonder how Liam handles it for Little James? "Here kid, have a pint, now bout that drop D tuning..."
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Post by Wireless on Feb 22, 2005 18:49:01 GMT -5
Another thing.......
It WILL hurt at first. But you gotta go through it and after a while you'll be loving it!!
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Post by jilliam on Feb 22, 2005 20:05:54 GMT -5
My fingers hurt really bad today, I mean just typing this post up hurts. But, I know Im gonna do this. Ive always wanted to learn how to play an instrument. I was 4-5yrs old and would beg my parents for a drum kit every time we went to the grocery store (you know the cheesy ones they used to have in there back in the day) Well my dad didnt think a little 4-5yr old GIRL should be messing bout with a BOYS drum kit. Well Thx for all the support. honest, thx.
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Post by thepicturesgeneration on Feb 23, 2005 1:14:39 GMT -5
yea guitar is beyond rewarding. nuff said.
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Post by BigStar on Feb 23, 2005 10:47:46 GMT -5
Make sure you drive everybody nuts by figuring out a riff and playing it over and over. Mine was Crazy on You by Heart. Sheer bliss once I got it. Have fun.
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Post by nyr401994 on Feb 23, 2005 13:32:38 GMT -5
one thing for starting guitarists- your fingers WILL hurt. the worst thing to do is to put them under water right after you play. it'll take longer to get used to playing by doing that alone.
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