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Post by AdidasNG72 on Aug 14, 2019 14:17:28 GMT -5
Liam may not have been affected by fame and changed him as much as Noel, but whether he is the same `good' lad is debatable. Whether Liam was ever a `good' lad is the real point here. By the things he comes out with on Twitter, throwing abuse at Noel's family, and the endless hell-raising stories during the Oasis years, I don't think Liam was ever a saint, and a thoroughly decent human being. You're right. He probably hasn't changed as much as Noel. Of course, hell-raising is what we wanted from our rock stars back then growing up. It doesn't sit that well anymore when a man reaches his late 40's, and becomes a responsible parent (from various different women). There seems to be a holier-than-thou attitude by certain Liam fans on here, that they just can't bring themselves to put him in a negative light, and instead try to and focus all their negative attitude towards Noel. Bottom line - they are probably both not very nice blokes if you spent time in their company. Noel has turned into a pretentious twat, and Liam is probably still Liam - slightly unhinged, unpredictable, aggressive - the kind of bloke you would avoid in a pub when he starts getting too pissed. And they can both probably be dead sound, too. Y'know, just like people are. People make mistakes. They do stupid stuff and say stupid stuff. Nowadays - though maybe it has always been about, it's just now everyone can voice an opinion (ourselves included) - there's this thing with fandoms (whether it's music, artists, football clubs, players, actors, or whatever) that they can do no wrong. Or that everything is black and white. We saw this with the whole ugly business on Twitter a few weeks back. Yes, I don't think what Noel did in publicising was a mature or responsible thing to do. But the main thing was Liam sending that stupid text. You then have people (only a few) twisting it all back around to the point where one comment was "he didn't threaten to kill her." It's really weird. I think they're both probably dead sound if they like you. If they don't like you, or you don't like them or whatever, they're probably not people you'd want to ever be around. But like you've said, they live in a completely different world and have done for 25 years. People seem to think Noel's changed but he hasn't. He's always been ruthless. He's grown up. Same goes for Liam. He's grown up. He's mellowed (mostly). But both still have that mad streak that made them what they were and still are. That desire and determination to keep on going and getting bigger and better. I do laugh when I see people claim Liam is some completely normal guy, just down to earth. They'll then use an example of an interview or a film about him to show how normal he is. I don't think having a documentary broadcasting how 'normal' you are is normal. And same goes for Noel. Though the difference with Noel is he hasn't been marketed by frankly a genius in Debbie. I mean, he didn't need it. He knew how to do it himself. Always has done. So he can come across as a dick but he doesn't care. Liam doesn't give a fuck either. But he's marketed in a way now that he can say dickish things and people will lap it up, because he's one of the true great rock stars left and by God does this world need them. I still like their music - Noel for taking his career into a different direction, and Liam for still giving us Oasis fans a blast from the past with his rock songs, but as human beings I am growing weary of the pair of them. I still take an interest in reading a funny Liam interview, or watching Noel's latest thing on YouTube, but as this pathetic Twitter spat turns more and more uglier by the week, I don't find it endearing for either brother. The whole thing has turned into some kind of warped social media family soap opera. I still haven't even watched Liam's new documentary yet. In the past I would have been watching these films immediately as they are released, yet now I don't clamour for this kind of material anymore, whether it is Liam or Noel's latest thing.
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Post by AdidasNG72 on Aug 14, 2019 12:10:03 GMT -5
Noel Gallagher is one of my biggest inspirations, and it fucking sucks seeing him this bitter and sad. He could be having the success of his brother, but he's choosing to make this music which just alienates him from a lot of his fans (not saying it's all bad!). Still, looking forward to see him in November but a lot of respect has been lost I don't see at all Noel being bitter for Liam's success. I think it's that he's pissed at Liam. You can take it back to the lawsuit, which he made a number of comments on around that time. Now it's all the comments Liam makes on his Twitter and the going after his kids. I can't say I blame Noel for that. But then he turns around and acts just as childish as Liam saying stuff that he thinks will hurt or annoy him. Personally, I wish Peggy would give them both a good clip upside the head and tell them both to start acting like the adults they are. As for the music Noel's making, he's pretty much said that he doesn't care if it's as big as Oasis was. He's enjoying doing something different. And if you've seen him on tour supporting "Who Built the Moon," it's obvious when he's on stage how much he's enjoying that music and touring with his current band. While he could have definitely had more tact with how he said it, if you don't like the cosmic pop, you still have the Oasis albums to listen to. For me, personally, while I love the Oasis stadium rockers and wouldn't complain if he went back to that some day, I am enjoying seeing this different musical side to Noel, although I can understand why some Oasis fans don't. This sounds like a very well rounded, well balanced, intelligent post, without any petty, childish bitchiness towards either brother. What the hell are you playing at? I'm going to report this quickly to the mods in case we get more posts like this on here. We can't have these threads turning into intelligent discussions now can we.
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Post by AdidasNG72 on Aug 12, 2019 0:57:00 GMT -5
Just got my flight and tickets booked for the Gibraltar Music Festival
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Post by AdidasNG72 on Aug 9, 2019 12:44:45 GMT -5
Early PG was cool. I have tons of it - polo shirts, grandad collar T shirts, leather jacket, safari jacket, a really cool fur jacket, suede shoes, and a blazer.
Some of the cool stuff I wear really gets noticed, but as others have mentioned on here, the later PG stuff became rather cheap and tacky, and I stopped buying it recently.
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Post by AdidasNG72 on Aug 9, 2019 12:40:00 GMT -5
Once and Sail On are my two favorite songs of 2019 so far. Both simply don’t get old for me, no matter how many times I play them. I agree with this. Both are 9/10.
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Post by AdidasNG72 on Aug 9, 2019 12:38:39 GMT -5
Once is a great song, probably the best thing Liam has done so far in his solo career. To me its up there with the best Oasis song he wrote on the shitty DOYS album - I'm Outta Time, the only decent thing on that album.
If some of the other songs are half as good as Once on Liam's new album, then we're in for a treat.
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Post by AdidasNG72 on Aug 9, 2019 7:23:50 GMT -5
Breathtakingly arrogant statement. I'm sure their respective friends and family might have something to say about that. Isn't it great when someone can say somethin like this about people he doesn't know yet tries to claim the moral high ground. It's easy if you try.
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Post by AdidasNG72 on Aug 9, 2019 7:21:07 GMT -5
Nothing wrong with having an opinion, or having 1000 + posts (mine are nearly all about BHN)... It's just that some of your posts appeared to be a bit too preoccupied with their personal life. And at the end of the day, they are the ones making their millions, and probably wouldn't piss on any of us mere mortals even if we were on fire. Hmmmm...pretty sure you spent a considerable amount of time in another thread being exactly what you are aiming at this bloke. Seeing as you stalked my posts, which thread?
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Post by AdidasNG72 on Aug 9, 2019 0:04:02 GMT -5
Mate, you're reading way too much into the Gallagher family-life, and knowing far too much about it to make it sound rather unhealthy, bordering on obsession. Bottom line is, if you personally knew either of the 2 brothers very well, and lived through their turbulent years, you'd probably despise the pair of them. Neither of them come out smelling of roses from all the crap we hear being slung by each brother over the internet (yes, even precious Liam). They are people you or I wouldn't identify with if we spent any time with them, mainly because they are in a very different place to you or I. Fame does strange things to people, and keeps them isolated in a luxury prison that we will never identify with. The truth is, the only time both brothers were probably worth knowing was back in 1993 and 1994 when they were still normal working class blokes, just trying to make it in the world of music. 25 years later, several divorces, several band spilt ups, much drugs, money and alcohol pissed away, they are both very different people than the young cocky lads from Burnage. yeah i'm borderline obsessed but you have a 1000+ post count. whatever, i'm not arsed either way, its just my opinion. if you don't like it that's fine too. i'm sure it'll all come out one day whatever the story actually is. i'm also not arsed neila83 opinion "won". I wasn't aware it was a contest but ok thats fine too. Nothing wrong with having an opinion, or having 1000 + posts (mine are nearly all about BHN)... It's just that some of your posts appeared to be a bit too preoccupied with their personal life. And at the end of the day, they are the ones making their millions, and probably wouldn't piss on any of us mere mortals even if we were on fire.
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Post by AdidasNG72 on Aug 8, 2019 23:59:41 GMT -5
Mate, you're reading way too much into the Gallagher family-life, and knowing far too much about it to make it sound rather unhealthy, bordering on obsession.Bottom line is, if you personally knew either of the 2 brothers very well, and lived through their turbulent years, you'd probably despise the pair of them. Neither of them come out smelling of roses from all the crap we hear being slung by each brother over the internet (yes, even precious Liam). They are people you or I wouldn't identify with if we spent any time with them, mainly because they are in a very different place to you or I. Fame does strange things to people, and keeps them isolated in a luxury prison that we will never identify with. The truth is, the only time both brothers were probably worth knowing was back in 1993 and 1994 when they were still normal working class blokes, just trying to make it in the world of music. 25 years later, several divorces, several band spilt ups, much drugs, money and alcohol pissed away, they are both very different people than the young cocky lads from Burnage. Geez man, we're on an Oasis forum. Reading many interviews and stories about these guys over the years, a lot of these facts are well known so I would hardly call it an unhealthy obsession. Regarding the second bolded point, his own mom has stated numerous times (latest being in 'As it Was') that Liam's never changed. That's why old pals like Bonehead and Tony have said that Liam is still the same good lad he's always been. Not to say he hasn't changed...everyone does. But he does seem to be way more grounded than Noel these days. Liam may not have been affected by fame and changed him as much as Noel, but whether he is the same `good' lad is debatable. Whether Liam was ever a `good' lad is the real point here. By the things he comes out with on Twitter, throwing abuse at Noel's family, and the endless hell-raising stories during the Oasis years, I don't think Liam was ever a saint, and a thoroughly decent human being. You're right. He probably hasn't changed as much as Noel. Of course, hell-raising is what we wanted from our rock stars back then growing up. It doesn't sit that well anymore when a man reaches his late 40's, and becomes a responsible parent (from various different women). There seems to be a holier-than-thou attitude by certain Liam fans on here, that they just can't bring themselves to put him in a negative light, and instead try to and focus all their negative attitude towards Noel. Bottom line - they are probably both not very nice blokes if you spent time in their company. Noel has turned into a pretentious twat, and Liam is probably still Liam - slightly unhinged, unpredictable, aggressive - the kind of bloke you would avoid in a pub when he starts getting too pissed.
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Post by AdidasNG72 on Aug 8, 2019 1:10:35 GMT -5
Noel constantly makes shit comments on Liam's voice after the split-up. He can't sing anymore, he's not a good singer anymore, I tolerated him up until he stopped being able to sing, blah blah. The words become bitter and more brutal after Liam's solo comeback. "the one that sounds like Adele being strangled by a premenstrual bear"-This is what the so-called Feminist said, only to insult his brother's voice. Didn't he already describe Liam singing a new song as "murdering" a couple of months ago? and then, he slags off Liam's Glastonbury gig. It's not surprising but always disgusting. Hasn't Liam dished out his fair share of criticism on Noel's solo career too? I have lost count the amount of times Liam has slagged off Noel just as much. They are both as bad as each other.
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Post by AdidasNG72 on Aug 8, 2019 1:01:04 GMT -5
You're talking about Noel's brother, and honestly you have no idea about their relationship do you? While Liam refused to acknowledge his daughter, and fought in court to avoid paying support to his own child, and only included one in his life when he had a record out and she became a convenient part of his 'redemption' story. You see how pointless this is, both sides can justifiably throw the exact same arguments at each other. To make out Liam has the high ground because he's mates with bonehead is ridiculous. Why do you never see Liam with Hem any more, eh, eh? People happily ignore examples that don't fit their narrative, however damning, while picking on the tiniest thing from the other. What's the point. You don't know them, you don't know if Liam is the great guy you believe. The desperate urge to invent theories and conspiracies to justify hating Noel is really really weird. Liam did back up Noel's story about Bonehead during SOTSOG in the past, But no doubt you have some excuse for why Liams words don't mean anything. I've seen concerts years ago where Liam (before he grew his hair out) makes fun of Oasis fans with long hair, says he's glad there's none there at one concert. Is that any different to calling them parka monkeys? I know it's harmless but the way some react to Noel here with such offence and sensitivity, I assume they'd be devastated to know what Liam thought of them some years ago. Jeez, the double standards here are utterly incredible. As I've said, I doubt I'd like Noel much as a person, as a good leftie I find some of his politics pretty nonsense these days, and he has developed some traits of those he used to hate. His interviews are still good fun though if you don't take it so seriously, I like his music, and the weird absolute hate some here have for him is odd, while being able to completely ignore Liams pretty obvious faults. Noel is a ruthless barstards, and that's why Oasis succeeded. In the end people probably did like Liam more cos he was the fun one you could party with while Noel was the boss. Someone has to impose some discipline eventually, obviously they won't everyone's best mate. Who loves their boss? It was easy for Liam having no responsibility. Not knocking him, I'd do the same, but it's a bit rich to use that as a stick to beat Noel with. The band would have collapsed in a pile of meth without Noel giving a bit of leadership. Personally I'm far more bothered by how Liam has treated his wives and children than someone saying parka monkey, but I obviously have my priorities all wrong. i'm confused. liams ex-wives seem to like him more than noel. he also paid shit loads of child support and bought his one daughter and mother a house. he had macca's attorney shackleton for the case in the usa. that wasnt to get out of paying. he was paying before he even went to court. prob needed her so he wouldnt get extorted. do you have any proof that we was trying not to pay for his kids? in regard to his other brother ur right i dont know them. but what i know is what i read and what i saw on youtube. you can prob even find the video on youtube where paul himself alluded to the fact noel talked shit on him and called him a loser for living at home years ago. liam also said that noel didnt invite a single member of his family to his 50th. safe to say that means paul too. also if i remember correctly i think i saw on twitter a few months back that someone asked paul about an Oasis reunion and said "ask sara". so you are right i dont know him/them and i am reading a lot in between the lines. but where there is smoke there is fire. Mate, you're reading way too much into the Gallagher family-life, and knowing far too much about it to make it sound rather unhealthy, bordering on obsession. Bottom line is, if you personally knew either of the 2 brothers very well, and lived through their turbulent years, you'd probably despise the pair of them. Neither of them come out smelling of roses from all the crap we hear being slung by each brother over the internet (yes, even precious Liam). They are people you or I wouldn't identify with if we spent any time with them, mainly because they are in a very different place to you or I. Fame does strange things to people, and keeps them isolated in a luxury prison that we will never identify with. The truth is, the only time both brothers were probably worth knowing was back in 1993 and 1994 when they were still normal working class blokes, just trying to make it in the world of music. 25 years later, several divorces, several band spilt ups, much drugs, money and alcohol pissed away, they are both very different people than the young cocky lads from Burnage.
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Post by AdidasNG72 on Aug 8, 2019 0:49:03 GMT -5
yea, you're right. cuz when I think of oasis I immediately think of gem archer and chris sharrock. oh, and weren't those two guys in beady eye after the breakup of oasis? how's noel getting on with bonehead? how about guigs? how about tony mccarroll? how about alan white? andy bell? actually I think he gave andy a hug in atlanta at some festival a few years back after the whole staring at shoes thing. of course, andy was back with ride at that point. how's his relationship with the guy he wrote "cast no shadow" for- ya know Richard Ashcroft? talked shit on the guy for no reason. does he even speak with his older brother paul? You're talking about Noel's brother, and honestly you have no idea about their relationship do you? While Liam refused to acknowledge his daughter, and fought in court to avoid paying support to his own child, and only included one in his life when he had a record out and she became a convenient part of his 'redemption' story. You see how pointless this is, both sides can justifiably throw the exact same arguments at each other. To make out Liam has the high ground because he's mates with bonehead is ridiculous. Why do you never see Liam with Hem any more, eh, eh? People happily ignore examples that don't fit their narrative, however damning, while picking on the tiniest thing from the other. What's the point. You don't know them, you don't know if Liam is the great guy you believe. The desperate urge to invent theories and conspiracies to justify hating Noel is really really weird. Liam did back up Noel's story about Bonehead during SOTSOG in the past, But no doubt you have some excuse for why Liams words don't mean anything. I've seen concerts years ago where Liam (before he grew his hair out) makes fun of Oasis fans with long hair, says he's glad there's none there at one concert. Is that any different to calling them parka monkeys? I know it's harmless but the way some react to Noel here with such offence and sensitivity, I assume they'd be devastated to know what Liam thought of them some years ago. Jeez, the double standards here are utterly incredible. As I've said, I doubt I'd like Noel much as a person, as a good leftie I find some of his politics pretty nonsense these days, and he has developed some traits of those he used to hate. His interviews are still good fun though if you don't take it so seriously, I like his music, and the weird absolute hate some here have for him is odd, while being able to completely ignore Liams pretty obvious faults. Noel is a ruthless barstards, and that's why Oasis succeeded. In the end people probably did like Liam more cos he was the fun one you could party with while Noel was the boss. Someone has to impose some discipline eventually, obviously they won't everyone's best mate. Who loves their boss? It was easy for Liam having no responsibility. Not knocking him, I'd do the same, but it's a bit rich to use that as a stick to beat Noel with. The band would have collapsed in a pile of meth without Noel giving a bit of leadership. Personally I'm far more bothered by how Liam has treated his wives and children than someone saying parka monkey, but I obviously have my priorities all wrong. Well said mate. 100% spot on!
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Post by AdidasNG72 on Aug 5, 2019 16:03:41 GMT -5
People are causing This is the Place beige while enjoying Once. It's interesting to see how much the respective popularity of the brothers affects the perception of their music. Noel and Liam are fucking uneducated, rude, arrogant pricks, they always were, they both are now and they always will be. None of them are sophisticated or it ever was or will ever be. Their music too. But they had heart and soul. And Liam still has parts of it. This! Back in their heyday both Liam and Noel could get away with the arrogant comments to journos. Now they are both coming across like spoilt, uneducated wealthy has-beens, talking themselves up as though they are still ruling the roost as though its 1997, and people care about what they have to say (particularly Noel). No one cares about their BS family feud, their dirty washing being laundered in public on Twitter anymore. It's beyond sad. And how stupid is Liam, still dreaming of an Oasis reunion, yet publicly slating and attacking the one person who could make it happen at every opportunity. They are both becoming very unlikable tossers.
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Post by AdidasNG72 on Aug 5, 2019 6:55:00 GMT -5
Typical Noel interview. If the interviewer gives him a chance, he'll go off on a tangent about politics and stuff like he always has done. Nothing new there. And I have to say I agree 100% with him on Brexit and the Remainers opinion now.
With regards Liam, nothing new there either. None of us can really judge, as this is a personal family dispute between two wealthy brothers, but neither of them come out of this smelling of roses. For all those slagging off Noel and putting Liam under some kind of Halo, get real! They are as bad as each other. If Liam has been threatening his daughter or wife, then he deserves to get a slagging off from his brother. I think most people would take offence to that. What makes Liam exempt from such criticism?
By the same token, Noel sounds bitter and pathetic when judging Liam's musical career, but then again, Liam is quick to slag off Noel's new musical direction too, so deserves critical abuse being hurled back at him - but ultimately, who really gives a flying fuck! Two multi-millionaires slagging each other off via the media, while we mere mortals sit in judgement of who is right, and who is wrong.
Anyone who takes personal offence to the abuse hurled from either brother, and feels the need to urgently step in and `defend' (lol) either of them are plain fucking sad.
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Post by AdidasNG72 on Jun 29, 2019 3:01:29 GMT -5
Very average song, maybe even a bit weak. It sounds like it belongs on DOYS, which is not a good thing as I cannot stand that album. If the rest of the album sounds like what we have heard from the first 2 songs, Liam could be in trouble, as I cannot see this album appealing to a wider market. Compared to the new direction Noel is pushing towards, Liam's is starting to sound rather old, tired, dated. The fact that this new song is lacking in a strong chorus makes it stray into Beady eye territory too. Havnt we agreed he’s done a Chinatown The rest of the album will be strong - the song writers are not stupid . Warner is not going to throw money down a drain Problem is, Shockwave wasn't particularly great either. Once does sound promising though. I'm holding high hopes on that one.
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Post by AdidasNG72 on Jun 29, 2019 1:44:07 GMT -5
Very average song, maybe even a bit weak. It sounds like it belongs on DOYS, which is not a good thing as I cannot stand that album.
If the rest of the album sounds like what we have heard from the first 2 songs, Liam could be in trouble, as I cannot see this album appealing to a wider market. Compared to the new direction Noel is pushing towards, Liam's is starting to sound rather old, tired, dated.
The fact that this new song is lacking in a strong chorus makes it stray into Beady eye territory too.
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Post by AdidasNG72 on May 31, 2019 1:47:42 GMT -5
Not keen on first hearing this. I've listened to it 3 times and it hasn't grabbed me yet. I much preferred the last one to this.
Dreary, plodding, no catchy chorus or real uplifts. The complicated bass is the best thing on it. I'm hoping it grows on me.
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Post by AdidasNG72 on May 9, 2019 14:29:15 GMT -5
One note: the old couple from the Stand By Me single referenced several times in this thread are Brian Cannon's parents, the person who designed all the single and album covers for the first three albums.....his father's still with us, he's like 90, blind but still alive.... I disliked the Stand By Me single album cover when it came out, but years later finding out it was Brian Cannon's parents gave it some significance and grew to like it..... God bless. I thought it was his girlfriend's parents?
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Post by AdidasNG72 on May 9, 2019 2:30:36 GMT -5
Great video, probably the coolest music video I've seen in years. Like someone mentioned earlier, its a room full of the Stand By Me cover couple, along with the 1970 Isle of Wight Festival freaks spliced into the FITB single.
Brilliant idea.
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Post by AdidasNG72 on May 3, 2019 14:02:51 GMT -5
Not bad on first listen. It didn't grab me like Holy Mountain did on first hearing it. Bit too slow for my liking. The bass sounds quite good, as does the ZZ Top guitar riff, but I don't like the female backing vocals, which are becoming very irritating the more Noel uses them. Hearing them now, it reminds me of the worst parts of WBTM. I'm all for an INXS sound, but I wish he'd go for the faster, more upbeat tempo songs that INXS did, rather than the plodding `I Need You Tonight' rip off. there's a lot of things that are wrong with this song and with WBTM but female vocalists aren't one of them. Each to their own. I liked it when Noel first started using them on songs like The Right Stuff, and on some of the tracks on WBTM, but I'm growing tired of it now. I yearn for the crazy, off-his-head rocker who went hell-for-leather during 1996 and 1997, writing ridiculously upbeat, fast songs like Some Might Say, The Fame, I Hope I Think I Know and Stay Young. Holy Mountain somehow managed to capture the essence of those glory years, and I just wish he'd do more of those kind of songs. I realise I'm probably in the minority with that opinion now.
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Post by AdidasNG72 on May 3, 2019 13:41:22 GMT -5
Not bad on first listen. It didn't grab me like Holy Mountain did on first hearing it.
Bit too slow for my liking. The bass sounds quite good, as does the ZZ Top guitar riff, but I don't like the female backing vocals, which are becoming very irritating the more Noel uses them. Hearing them now, it reminds me of the worst parts of WBTM.
I'm all for an INXS sound, but I wish he'd go for the faster, more upbeat tempo songs that INXS did, rather than the plodding `I Need You Tonight' rip off.
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Post by AdidasNG72 on Jun 12, 2018 2:10:29 GMT -5
Oasis needed to change their whole ethos and sound to reflect what happened when Princess Di died, but that was never Oasis.. SOTSOG Released 4 years too late to cash in on the downward turn. And oh yes, I almost forgot. The majority of SOTSOG is utter shit too.
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Post by AdidasNG72 on Jun 12, 2018 2:05:48 GMT -5
The Stand By Me EP is superb, and is probably the best single and B sides released during BHN. I got the Fever is one of my favourite B sides. MSL is very good too, and Going Nowhere is an undisputed classic.
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Post by AdidasNG72 on Apr 29, 2018 4:35:40 GMT -5
It didn't matter what Noel would release for the third album. The appetite for rock changed overnight when the Princess died. That single event killed all the feelgood mood and Britpop movement in the UK, and Oasis suddenly became loud, aggressive, unwanted drunks at a funeral wake.
As others have said on here, had Oasis disappeared for a few years after Knebworth, then regrouped and came back a few years later, that may have had a huge impact and made their 3rd album even bigger, but I think Oasis belonged to a certain moment, frozen in time - 1994 to 1997. Celebratory, anthemic, right at the heart of Britpop, Euro 96 and Labour's landslide victory. It was like The Beatles, Revolver and England 1966 all over again.
Unfortunately those fleeting moments of euphoria don't last forever. When you reach a peak, the only way is down. The Beatles changed dramatically during their reign, as the UK around them also changed - from poppy Beatlemania to the hippy trippy Summer of Love.
Oasis needed to change their whole ethos and sound to reflect what happened when Princess Di died, but that was never Oasis.
Personally I love BHN, far more than any other Oasis record, so I am pleased we got that third album when we did, warts and all. I wouldn't have it any other way.
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