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Post by Velo on Aug 21, 2017 0:38:07 GMT -5
I expect musicians to make reasonable mistakes. No band plays perfectly every night. Just doesn't happen. From a musician's standpoint, the mistakes they make on a night-to-night basis is unacceptable from professional musicians. It's pretty difficult to notice poor musicianship at a gig because usually you're too into the show to notice. At the Lolla aftershow, it was noticeable. And really, this isn't even a matter of technical ability. Oasis in the beginning lacked a lot of technical ability, but they knew how to play their songs. People can bury their heads in the sand, but this band is bad. Liam is the only person who makes each performance salvageable or many times, great. really doesn't help matters that we took Oasis and Beady Eye's live show for granted. Bonehead, Guigsy and Tony were rock solid. Even mk2 were great, there's a reason they sounded great in stadiums. I've defended Liam's band before but it's pretty clear now they haven't exactly tightened up after multiple shows together. Jay's really the only bad apple but I wonder if Liam will stick with it or change it up before the second round of tour dates?
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Post by Velo on Aug 15, 2017 11:42:07 GMT -5
After listening to this, I'm really convinced Liam was at "fault" for the band (Beady Eye) splitting up again and being very difficult to work with... I think they didn't want it directly pinned on Liam being at fault again like when Noel said and put it all on Liam saying he couldn't go on a day longer working with Liam, therefore the cause of the breakup never directly being answered. Liam admitting he would rather have the 90's lineup now makes me think something went sour with Gem and Andy. Also never hearing from Gem and Andy mentioning Liam or wishing him luck for his solo career... I really wonder what goes on behind the scenes that we don't know, as the GQ interviewer even wrote he wouldn't be able to follow or do a world tour with Liam. When Liam did One Love at Manchester Andy Tweeted something along the lines of "YES LG!" Liam was at fault. It's called a divorce. I doubt what happened was really that awful given Gem and Andy have publicly supported Liam's career but between his infidelity and Gem's injury, it's pretty easy to see why they called it a day. I doubt Liam wants to revisit that era so quickly.
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Post by Velo on Aug 15, 2017 11:39:06 GMT -5
Half of Definitely Maybe and Morning Glory have pitched up vocals if we're being real here... It's good to see that he really went hard for the live performance but given that this was right before Chicago, it's clear how much going all out had an impact on his vocals. Who knows what the issues were in Chicago. Could be voice. Could be personal. Could be something else. Oh definitely without a doubt there's more to it that none of us will be privy to know. Hopefully he saves his energy for Reading.
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Post by Velo on Aug 15, 2017 11:32:01 GMT -5
Pretty sure he posted this on his Instagram a year or so right when he got his new guitars. It looks great though and judging from the live videos, has made a big difference.
Really wish he'd bust out the Jazzmaster tho!
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Post by Velo on Aug 15, 2017 11:30:04 GMT -5
one thing that really irritates me is the notion that singing higher=better singer eg. ariana grande doing extended vocal runs to show off her notes, from MY point of view, liam belting out the words sounds far better than his falsetto, this bullshit way of judging vocals (probably stemming from the likes of Xfactor) is likely why FWIW was recorded so damn high, some pop music loving idiot producer probably told liam to "give it your best!", the chorus sounds awful compared to the live version, which actually sounds like a classic oasis power ballad. might seem like a pointless thing to rant about but i fucking hate how liam did this just to pander to the plebs. music doesnt have to be high pitched to sound good for fucks sake, ian curtis is one of my favourite vocalists and hes likened to homer simpson ok rant over, ill be listening to this version of FWIW on repeat if anyone needs me Half of Definitely Maybe and Morning Glory have pitched up vocals if we're being real here... It's good to see that he really went hard for the live performance but given that this was right before Chicago, it's clear how much going all out had an impact on his vocals.
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Post by Velo on Aug 14, 2017 12:46:57 GMT -5
Yes. And that's kinda weird, imo. Agreed. Way to sap all the energy from your album from your loyal fanbase on release date. it goes without saying that we're very much in the minority here and most of the fanbase likely hasn't listened to live footage or scoured for demos or soundchecks. i do think it is strange they've released three songs so far, and likely one or two more, this early on though. but clearly Liam's team is seeing something in this strategy and it's clearly working. Was Beady Eye in the press this much before DGSS?
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Post by Velo on Aug 11, 2017 3:02:44 GMT -5
that second verse is really fucking good. and the middle eight is dope. i've gotten way too used to dodgy lyrics thanks to BDI and even Wall of Glass and Chinatown so hearing a relatively straightforward song lyrically was a pleasant surprise.
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Post by Velo on Aug 9, 2017 13:02:34 GMT -5
TBH I'm surprised that none of the songs have leaked with so many people hearing it already and having it. I'm happy it hasn't but still surprised by it also shocked we've not seen a barrel of 'leak is imminient' posts now that we have confirmation the album is done and people are listening to it... i wonder when we'll start getting reviews?
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Post by Velo on Aug 9, 2017 10:48:31 GMT -5
He says he can do justice to about 80% of Oasis' songs, but that some are better left to 24-year-old Liam. Which ones do you think he might be talking about? I think he may have wanted to do Rocking Chair this time out and decided his voice is now too deep to handle the chorus. The fact he has yet to play Cigarettes and Alcohol speaks volumes.
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Post by Velo on Aug 8, 2017 13:43:15 GMT -5
no wonder they haven't played it live yet, it sounds like a tough vocal to do.
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Post by Velo on Aug 8, 2017 13:36:57 GMT -5
from the sounds of it, he was also involved with the rolling stone interview so im' really excited to see what questions he had in that.
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Post by Velo on Aug 5, 2017 16:10:12 GMT -5
clearly the shit we gave him about his windbreaker went to his head.
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Post by Velo on Aug 4, 2017 14:50:04 GMT -5
You guys are nuts. You are acting like Liam's voice totally went out on him. It wasn't even raspy. Sounded like it has the whole tour. He obviously came into Chicago pissed and just wanted to leave for whatever reason. his tone is pretty similar and consistent but it sounds like he just couldn't hit any notes. WoG was already badly handled live and here he just avoided the high notes completely
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Post by Velo on Aug 4, 2017 14:30:08 GMT -5
It's a shame cause the band was more solid this time and they were sounding really good. Did they sack the sound man and hired a new one? Fuck me, Greedy Soul was sounding AMAZING. And even that fucking Jay lad managed to deliver decent solos this time. Terrible harmonies from Drew though. He fucked up the bit "in my mind my dreams are real" in RNR Star and the "Well" in MG (out of tune). I think Liam had just a vocal problem (stressed by too many gigs), I don't think there was a problem with the crowd tbh, Liam wouldn't have hidden it in his tweet. would def agree drew fucked up the Well in MG but he's been doing those harmonies in RnR Star from the beginning. it's a lot tighter - dude would sound fucking awful if he was doing the looser harmonies Noel did a lot.
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Post by Velo on Aug 3, 2017 17:41:05 GMT -5
Whoah, what? Like is that why Noel refuses to perform certain songs?
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Post by Velo on Aug 3, 2017 15:50:39 GMT -5
i'm still shocked china town was added onto the album on such short notice.
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Post by Velo on Aug 3, 2017 15:42:38 GMT -5
UK here (Scotland) Just checked, Apple Music is only showing times for 'Wall of Glass', 'For What Its Worth' and 'Chinatown' Same here. iTunes UK store. Just wanted to disprove the theory about Greedy Soul being a UK Single/FWIW a US Single. Looks like we're eating next week, boys!
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Post by Velo on Aug 3, 2017 14:02:56 GMT -5
can someone in the UK confirm that Greedy Soul's time is now displayed on Apple Music/iTunes?
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Post by Velo on Aug 3, 2017 11:31:02 GMT -5
i always assumed they taped the Colbert performance to coincide when the single came out closer to the album and thus, NA tour.
maybe they're hoping the single will have longer legs than wall of glass?
in any case, that one dude who's been posting about FWIW will be pleased.
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Post by Velo on Aug 3, 2017 11:26:56 GMT -5
^ has there been any interviews with nicole that touch on the split? i know there was a song or two on the new All Saints album about Liam or implied...
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Post by Velo on Jul 27, 2017 23:56:56 GMT -5
i feel like all those guys are finally at a point where their respective ages finally got to them. noel was already old as fuck in oasis but he looks the part of "The Chief." gem and andy look ancient nowadays.
i feel like liam, being the youngest of the bunch, has got maybe a few years left before he hits that too.
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Post by Velo on Jul 24, 2017 18:53:55 GMT -5
this means we're getting a new song, correct?
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Post by Velo on Jul 20, 2017 1:24:24 GMT -5
I think Noel has always been underrated as a guitarist (mainly again because he puts himself down too much). Okay no Oasis songs require hendrix but i think its been shown time and time again when other guitarists do Noels parts, it just never lives up. Even when Andy did Noels parts for Beady Eye, i didnt think it was as good. And we always talk about how much of a better guitarist he is. Really? I never saw any of that, personally, but those Oasis songs always seemed totally fine for what they were worth, they weren't bad, they weren't exceptional. Totally fine. Kinda reminded me of the 2000 shows played without Noel where Gem did a pretty good job approximating all of Noel's parts.
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Post by Velo on Jul 17, 2017 22:36:21 GMT -5
yeah, apart from that awful period where he carried over his post DOYS awful haircuts, he's always looked pretty decent in BE. This is cool but hardly exceptional for him.
...At least he's not wearing those awful green parkas again. Somebody must have convinced him black was proper.
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Post by Velo on Jul 17, 2017 11:24:15 GMT -5
more people like morning glory than definitely maybe so you're not wrong.
i prefer definitely maybe but their latest stuff is more polished and more set in stone so i get why people don't exactly like it.
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