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Post by Lennon2217 on Jun 5, 2022 13:52:49 GMT -5
You know when you say them HFB songs work for a festival. Can I ask how? Him and the girl shouting hey hey hey repetitively into a microphone doesn't work at a festival. Then rattling rose and most of the WBTM album have literally everyone just stood there looking bored. I don't see how they work at all. Okay if he's still flogging that album then fair game. But they're hardly doing him any favours for an enthralling set. I've never known him to go on and on like this with an album cycle before. It's been almost 5 years and yet he's still here putting setlists together as if the album was released last week, at the expense of some of his best work What shall he do? The album is most likely coming out Feb/March/April of 2023. He’s probably trying to make some cash for himself and band members after almost 2 years of no work/touring. Not many combos of songs he could select from. We all know Noel is very set in his ways once a setlist is determined.
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Post by Rolo on Jun 5, 2022 13:52:55 GMT -5
I honestly don't mind that setlist as it is without context, I wish he'd find the space for Everybody's On The Run, This Is The Place and Flying On The Ground (although this may be a tough one to do live) but other than that it's a nice bouncy set and I like it The no CY is weird, but he really seems to view it as a transition record and ITHOTM is probably the only one that would work in the context of a festival I'd also like them to experiment like they did with Let The Lord Shine A Light On Me and The Right Stuff but that's probably for the indoors gigs I have more of a problem with the Oasis catalogue HTWA, Wonderwall, DLBIA, TIOBI, even LBL I get it, they're classics and 4/5 had Noel on vocals, but he could definitely rotate SCYHO and Whatever with other songs, could be Supersonic, could be Live Forever, could be Cast No Shadow, could be Some Might Say Doesn't have to be an obscure track, just something we haven't heard from him in a while If he was promoting the album then fair enough but it's coming up 5 years since his last album and the EP's aren't exactly new any more are they? It could do with just being a lot more varied, he has some great HFB songs to pick from. I do agree with what you said about Oasis. He tends to just have about 10 songs he cycles through which is absolutely mental with the back catalogue he has.
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Post by defmaybe00 on Jun 5, 2022 14:25:38 GMT -5
I honestly don't mind that setlist as it is without context, I wish he'd find the space for Everybody's On The Run, This Is The Place and Flying On The Ground (although this may be a tough one to do live) but other than that it's a nice bouncy set and I like it The no CY is weird, but he really seems to view it as a transition record and ITHOTM is probably the only one that would work in the context of a festival I'd also like them to experiment like they did with Let The Lord Shine A Light On Me and The Right Stuff but that's probably for the indoors gigs I have more of a problem with the Oasis catalogue HTWA, Wonderwall, DLBIA, TIOBI, even LBL I get it, they're classics and 4/5 had Noel on vocals, but he could definitely rotate SCYHO and Whatever with other songs, could be Supersonic, could be Live Forever, could be Cast No Shadow, could be Some Might Say Doesn't have to be an obscure track, just something we haven't heard from him in a while You know when you say them HFB songs work for a festival. Can I ask how? Him and the girl shouting hey hey hey repetitively into a microphone doesn't work at a festival. Then rattling rose and most of the WBTM album have literally everyone just stood there looking bored. I don't see how they work at all. Okay if he's still flogging that album then fair game. But they're hardly doing him any favours for an enthralling set. It's the vibe of the tunes, it's not like he has many solo hits to pick from Fort Knox works as an opener, STMHTF and IABW work as live songs, same as BSD (which he loves as well), Holy Mountain is one of his better known solo tunes like it or not and it's real fun live The likes of Riverman or Mighty I or TDOTL for instance, or even TDOYAM, they do fall a bit flat live not just in terms of crowd reaction but of energy on the stage, the other ones at least keep it up and flow My only real complaint as I said is EOTR, and I wish he'd get rid of Wandering Star which doesn't fit nor warrant that much attention
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Post by defmaybe00 on Jun 5, 2022 14:27:53 GMT -5
I honestly don't mind that setlist as it is without context, I wish he'd find the space for Everybody's On The Run, This Is The Place and Flying On The Ground (although this may be a tough one to do live) but other than that it's a nice bouncy set and I like it The no CY is weird, but he really seems to view it as a transition record and ITHOTM is probably the only one that would work in the context of a festival I'd also like them to experiment like they did with Let The Lord Shine A Light On Me and The Right Stuff but that's probably for the indoors gigs I have more of a problem with the Oasis catalogue HTWA, Wonderwall, DLBIA, TIOBI, even LBL I get it, they're classics and 4/5 had Noel on vocals, but he could definitely rotate SCYHO and Whatever with other songs, could be Supersonic, could be Live Forever, could be Cast No Shadow, could be Some Might Say Doesn't have to be an obscure track, just something we haven't heard from him in a while If he was promoting the album then fair enough but it's coming up 5 years since his last album and the EP's aren't exactly new any more are they? It could do with just being a lot more varied, he has some great HFB songs to pick from. I do agree with what you said about Oasis. He tends to just have about 10 songs he cycles through which is absolutely mental with the back catalogue he has. I get what you're saying, but I do think he sees WBTM as a breaking point and he's only really feeling what he did from 2017 onwards, plus the band has changed a lot since the start and I think he wants to do the newer stuff with them It's all a bit odd, but this small tour probably wouldn't have even existed without Covid and we'd just be waiting for the first single off the new album
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Post by Sadie on Jun 5, 2022 14:34:21 GMT -5
WBTM is a very weird album in terms of how the songs go down live. In arenas they all work great especially Fort Knox (at least, they worked well when I saw him in 2018) but outdoors they just fall completely and utterly flat. I cringe when I see Noel trying to enjoy Fort Knox/Holy Mountain when the entire crowd looks asleep
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Post by Sadie on Jun 5, 2022 14:36:05 GMT -5
I've never known him to go on and on like this with an album cycle before. It's been almost 5 years and yet he's still here putting setlists together as if the album was released last week, at the expense of some of his best work What shall he do? The album is most likely coming out Feb/March/April of 2023. He’s probably trying to make some cash for himself and band members after almost 2 years of no work/touring. Not many combos of songs he could select from. We all know Noel is very set in his ways once a setlist is determined. I get that he hasn't got an album to promote yet but the thing is he's going too heavy on a particular 'era' of work. He needs to balance it out a bit and do more across all the NGHFB albums
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Post by tcole on Jun 5, 2022 15:42:00 GMT -5
Seeing a setlist like this makes me wonder if Noel even enjoys performing live anymore. Fans aside, even he must be bored playing the same songs over and over.
4yrs ago I saw Noel play live with basically the exact same opening tracks as this set. Glad I decided not to go to the Dublin gig tonight.
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Post by hsmichael on Jun 5, 2022 15:43:51 GMT -5
I think for the first festival of the tour this setlist is reasonable and I expect it to evolve over time.
I know he’s rehearsing Falling Down but I’d love for him to play any of: The Fame, Let The Lord Shine A Light On Me, Revolution Song etc
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Post by tcole on Jun 5, 2022 15:45:54 GMT -5
I've never known him to go on and on like this with an album cycle before. It's been almost 5 years and yet he's still here putting setlists together as if the album was released last week, at the expense of some of his best work What shall he do? The album is most likely coming out Feb/March/April of 2023. He’s probably trying to make some cash for himself and band members after almost 2 years of no work/touring. Not many combos of songs he could select from. We all know Noel is very set in his ways once a setlist is determined. I don't think he necessarily needs combos to choose from. He has 3 solo albums, several EPs, 7 oasis albums and a ton of B-sides to choose from. The band must of rehearsed since they've not played together in so long, so why not switch it up?
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Post by Lennon2217 on Jun 5, 2022 16:12:01 GMT -5
What shall he do? The album is most likely coming out Feb/March/April of 2023. He’s probably trying to make some cash for himself and band members after almost 2 years of no work/touring. Not many combos of songs he could select from. We all know Noel is very set in his ways once a setlist is determined. I don't think he necessarily needs combos to choose from. He has 3 solo albums, several EPs, 7 oasis albums and a ton of B-sides to choose from. The band must of rehearsed since they've not played together in so long, so why not switch it up? It’s all perspective. I prefer Noel’s work post 2016 so this set works for my ears.
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Post by megyesitomate on Jun 5, 2022 16:55:29 GMT -5
Setlist from today seems to be the same as yesterday's but they actually performed the songs that were omitted in Wales. <script src="moz-extension://30877546-48eb-4155-b1a7-8c7aa52ae436/js/app.js" type="text/javascript"></script>
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Post by The Boy Without the Blues on Jun 5, 2022 17:12:55 GMT -5
Yeah I don't get it. I mean he could at least throw Live Forever and Flying On The Ground since he played those last year. And he said they were rehearsing Falling Down, why wait for the new album tour? Will that be Glastonbury's setlist? Utterly disappointed. I went to Noel's 2019 gig in Korea and he sang Live Forever (In fact only began with "Maybe" and let the crazy audience sing the rest). He also said he would not sing this song anywhere. Noel played LF last year with a whole different arrangement and mentioned he couldn't wait to bring this version to tour. But it seems, just like FD, he's holding it for the album tour. Which in my head doesn't make any sense
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Post by PepsiNebula on Jun 5, 2022 17:20:06 GMT -5
He really isn't doing himself any favours at all. Playing so many HFB songs to begin with too. Not to mention stuff off the last album that gets a lukewarm reception at best from his hardcore fanbase and nothing at festivals. I've been to every High Flying Birds tour so far but with Liam doing Etihad and Knebworth this summer i didn't bother with what Noel is doing and i think it's the first time i've seen so many of his shows not sold out. He seems to look back on the initial HFB era with quite a lot of indifference now but the songs off that album combined with the Oasis songs he was playing were the perfect formula. Okay we've had the WBTM phase but that's all it should be. Take bits from that and mix it with what made the first part of HFB such a success. If he carries on playing this kind of set live and the same sort of album next time it'll be 1500 capacity venues maximum soon. Someone said this before but I hate the way he saves every Oasis song until the end, it's as if he's saying 'ok this is what you really came for'. At least Liam always intersperses Oasis songs with solo stuff, it actually makes it feel nice when his entire encore is Oasis Yeah, that aspect of Noel's setlist feels very awkward to me. Like, here's a chunk of my stuff, then here's a chunk of Oasis stuff, like they're almost two separate concerts.
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Post by Sadie on Jun 5, 2022 17:32:26 GMT -5
Someone said this before but I hate the way he saves every Oasis song until the end, it's as if he's saying 'ok this is what you really came for'. At least Liam always intersperses Oasis songs with solo stuff, it actually makes it feel nice when his entire encore is Oasis Yeah, that aspect of Noel's setlist feels very awkward to me. Like, here's a chunk of my stuff, then here's a chunk of Oasis stuff, like they're almost two separate concerts. Exactly! It doesn't flow at all, it all feels very weird which is a shame cause on the debut & CY tours his setlists, as repetitive as they were, always flowed well. Now it's like the gig is always split into two very distinct parts with If I Had A Gun being the kind of 'intermediary' one (if we're being really technical I guess it could fall into both the NGHFB/Oasis categories as it was leaked pre-split)
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Post by Flashbax on Jun 6, 2022 2:06:06 GMT -5
Where's Come On Outside? That would be a great live song!
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Post by Rolo on Jun 6, 2022 3:01:03 GMT -5
Where's Come On Outside? That would be a great live song! Do The Damage and Freaky Teeth would also be great. Ballad Of The Mighty I needs to be in the set as well.
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Post by plaskins1 on Jun 6, 2022 3:24:52 GMT -5
This set is going to put the general casuals to sleep at Glastonbury 🙈
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Post by fink621 on Jun 6, 2022 4:21:27 GMT -5
I was at the Dublin gig last night (which wasn’t a festival by the way). I deliberately avoided the set list from the night before in the hope of some surprises. Man I was wrong, that first half is a real slog & you could feel it in the crowd.
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Post by Oaleed SB on Jun 6, 2022 4:39:25 GMT -5
I was at the Dublin gig last night (which wasn’t a festival by the way). I deliberately avoided the set list from the night before in the hope of some surprises. Man I was wrong, that first half is a real slog & you could feel it in the crowd. such a shame I love Noel was tempted to go see him in Bristol before his Glastonbury set. But think I swerve it now and save the pounds. Heard this setlist live enough now 😬
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Post by johnky on Jun 6, 2022 5:38:23 GMT -5
Noel Gallagher's High Flying Birds St.Annes Park; Dublin 6th June 2022
Length : 1:31.42
01. Four Minute Warning [PA] 02. Fort Knox 03. Holy Mountain [https://youtu.be/5161CEYgdko] 04. Keep On Reaching 05. It's A Beautiful World 06. She Taught Me How To Fly 07. Wandering Star 08. Rattling Rose 09. We're On Our Way Now 10. Black Star Dancing 11. Dead In The Water 12. Little By Litte 13. The Importance of Being Idle 14. Whatever 15. Wonderwall 16. Half the World Away 17. Stop Crying Your Heart Out 18. If I Had A Gun... 19. AKA... What A Life! 20. Don't Look Back In Anger 21. The Mighty Quinn
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Post by RUBIKON on Jun 6, 2022 7:05:24 GMT -5
Noel Gallagher's High Flying Birds St.Annes Park; Dublin 6th June 2022 Length : 1:31.42 01. Four Minute Warning [PA] 02. Fort Knox 03. Holy Mountain [https://youtu.be/5161CEYgdko] 04. Keep On Reaching 05. It's A Beautiful World 06. She Taught Me How To Fly 07. Wandering Star 08. Rattling Rose 09. We're On Our Way Now 10. Black Star Dancing 11. Dead In The Water 12. Little By Litte 13. The Importance of Being Idle 14. Whatever 15. Wonderwall 16. Half the World Away 17. Stop Crying Your Heart Out 18. If I Had A Gun... 19. AKA... What A Life! 20. Don't Look Back In Anger 21. The Mighty Quinn Did you get a recording mate?
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Post by garylineker on Jun 6, 2022 7:33:23 GMT -5
I've never known him to go on and on like this with an album cycle before. It's been almost 5 years and yet he's still here putting setlists together as if the album was released last week, at the expense of some of his best work What shall he do? The album is most likely coming out Feb/March/April of 2023. He’s probably trying to make some cash for himself and band members after almost 2 years of no work/touring. Not many combos of songs he could select from. We all know Noel is very set in his ways once a setlist is determined. This and "i don't mind the set" are the two best defences of this drab setlist in this thread. He was selling out arenas in 2011 and now you can get tickets for every single show hes doing in capacities of about 3k. I don't know how you can defend it to be honest. Its extremely lazy at a time he needs to seriously up his game.
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Post by freddy838 on Jun 6, 2022 7:52:13 GMT -5
You know when you say them HFB songs work for a festival. Can I ask how? Him and the girl shouting hey hey hey repetitively into a microphone doesn't work at a festival. Then rattling rose and most of the WBTM album have literally everyone just stood there looking bored. I don't see how they work at all. Okay if he's still flogging that album then fair game. But they're hardly doing him any favours for an enthralling set. It's the vibe of the tunes, it's not like he has many solo hits to pick from Fort Knox works as an opener, STMHTF and IABW work as live songs, same as BSD (which he loves as well), Holy Mountain is one of his better known solo tunes like it or not and it's real fun live The likes of Riverman or Mighty I or TDOTL for instance, or even TDOYAM, they do fall a bit flat live not just in terms of crowd reaction but of energy on the stage, the other ones at least keep it up and flow My only real complaint as I said is EOTR, and I wish he'd get rid of Wandering Star which doesn't fit nor warrant that much attention Is Wandering Star that dreadful Christmas song he did?
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Post by welshylad on Jun 6, 2022 7:53:17 GMT -5
Noel Gallagher's High Flying Birds St.Annes Park; Dublin 6th June 2022 Length : 1:31.42 01. Four Minute Warning [PA] 02. Fort Knox 03. Holy Mountain [https://youtu.be/5161CEYgdko] 04. Keep On Reaching 05. It's A Beautiful World 06. She Taught Me How To Fly 07. Wandering Star 08. Rattling Rose 09. We're On Our Way Now 10. Black Star Dancing 11. Dead In The Water 12. Little By Litte 13. The Importance of Being Idle 14. Whatever 15. Wonderwall 16. Half the World Away 17. Stop Crying Your Heart Out 18. If I Had A Gun... 19. AKA... What A Life! 20. Don't Look Back In Anger 21. The Mighty Quinn Did you get a recording mate? He did yes, I also got Margam (but missed the encore! Tamping)
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Post by artumlobov on Jun 6, 2022 7:54:24 GMT -5
What shall he do? The album is most likely coming out Feb/March/April of 2023. He’s probably trying to make some cash for himself and band members after almost 2 years of no work/touring. Not many combos of songs he could select from. We all know Noel is very set in his ways once a setlist is determined. This and "i don't mind the set" are the two best defences of this drab setlist in this thread. He was selling out arenas in 2011 and now you can get tickets for every single show hes doing in capacities of about 3k. I don't know how you can defend it to be honest. Its extremely lazy at a time he needs to seriously up his game. He likes to remind everyone how rich he is and how experimental he is. He can do anything. He can open with the Swamp Song. He can play his biggest hit on Spotify (ITHOTM) He can play his country music version of Champagne Supernova. He can play Alone on a Rope for the hardcore. He can play Magic Pie 19 times in a row. He can do anything. Still, hopefully by the 6th or 7th gig the band will have this setlist down and then they can start knocking it out of the park
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