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Post by jokerwithnojokes on Sept 21, 2019 7:15:11 GMT -5
Do you think John Lennon would have liked Liam? Often wonder if he would have been into Oasis or if him and Liam would have done a tune together. It’s cool to think about
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Post by elephantstone93 on Sept 21, 2019 7:27:00 GMT -5
I don't think he would have liked the loud Liam we've seen in the past but he would have appreciated the love Liam gives him.
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Post by MacaRonic on Sept 21, 2019 7:31:24 GMT -5
Lennon always kept his finger on the pulse of what was current and relevant in music. He really enjoyed reggae when it was very popular in 70s and was enjoying new wave in the late 70s up until his death in 1980. But his favorite music was always straight up Rock n’ Roll so I’d imagine yes, he would’ve enjoyed Oasis’ success in the 90s.
IMO if he was still alive in the 90s Liam probably would not of been as blatantly Lennonesque in the way he dressed etc. Of course this is all guesswork.
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Post by fabulousbakers on Sept 21, 2019 15:42:01 GMT -5
I think the moment Lennon heard that mad live Oasis version of I AM THE WALRUS he would have loved them.
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Post by ricardogce on Sept 21, 2019 15:45:03 GMT -5
Lennon would have loved Oasis, and I dare say he might have joined them on stage at one point, the way he did with Chuck Berry and Elton John.
Post-Oasis, I think he would have been encouraging of Liam, before eventually falling out over Liam's borrowing of his sound, culminating in a Twitter war. And then eventually they'd become friends again and we'd have a Lennon guest spot on Alright Now or Misunderstood.
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Post by jorgendif on Sept 22, 2019 3:16:22 GMT -5
Lennon would have loved Oasis, and I dare say he might have joined them on stage at one point, the way he did with Chuck Berry and Elton John. Post-Oasis, I think he would have been encouraging of Liam, before eventually falling out over Liam's borrowing of his sound, culminating in a Twitter war. And then eventually they'd become friends again and we'd have a Lennon guest spot on Alright Now or Misunderstood. What he said
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Post by LlAM on Sept 22, 2019 4:48:19 GMT -5
If John Lennon was still alive, would Liam still try to sound like him and make music that sounds like John Lennon?
I reckon if John was still alive he'd be annoyed and say something like "why copy what I've done I'm just a human being like you, go do your own thing" but now I reckon he's in heaven feeling a bit happy of the legend and inspiration he's left behind.
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Post by thomaslivesforever on Sept 22, 2019 4:55:57 GMT -5
If John Lennon was still alive, would Liam still try to sound like him and make music that sounds like John Lennon? I reckon if John was still alive he'd be annoyed and say something like "why copy what I've done I'm just a human being like you, go do your own thing" but now I reckon he's in heaven feeling a bit happy of the legend and inspiration he's left behind. To be fair John Lennon never copied anyone, oh wait a minute...
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Post by andymorris on Sept 22, 2019 5:01:59 GMT -5
Oasis, yes, Noel yes, Liam partly no. Simply because Liam worships John Lennon and that guy didn't like worshipers.
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Post by Teotihuacan on Sept 22, 2019 5:05:18 GMT -5
The interesting question is what if McCartney was the one to the assassinated? Would he have been instantly made a saint, legend, all of his songs been immediately held to be cultural milestones?
Would Noel and Liam have taken to McCartney and become his disciples rather than Lennon's? Bearing in mind that McCartney always had 1 foot in the avant garde, weird, experimental scene in swinging London and pushed for them to record the still unrealeased freak out of Carnival of light as well as innovating the disorienting use of tape loops on Lennon's Tomorrow Never Knows.
Would Lennons brand have become tarnished like McCartneys has in recent years by still regularly releasing albums to mostly public indifference at best but often hostile scorn?
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Post by LlAM on Sept 22, 2019 5:15:37 GMT -5
If John Lennon was still alive, would Liam still try to sound like him and make music that sounds like John Lennon? I reckon if John was still alive he'd be annoyed and say something like "why copy what I've done I'm just a human being like you, go do your own thing" but now I reckon he's in heaven feeling a bit happy of the legend and inspiration he's left behind. To be fair John Lennon never copied anyone, oh wait a minute... So Tom, what do you think Lennon's thoughts would be? I've based my thoughts on the video of John meeting an obsessed fan outside his house.
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Post by thomaslivesforever on Sept 22, 2019 5:56:59 GMT -5
To be fair John Lennon never copied anyone, oh wait a minute... So Tom, what do you think Lennon's thoughts would be? I've based my thoughts on the video of John meeting an obsessed fan outside his house. So you’ve based on something Liam wouldn’t have done. That’s a strong foundation for your ‘thoughts’.
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Post by LlAM on Sept 22, 2019 6:03:07 GMT -5
So Tom, what do you think Lennon's thoughts would be? I've based my thoughts on the video of John meeting an obsessed fan outside his house. So you’ve based on something Liam wouldn’t have done. That’s a strong foundation for your ‘thoughts’. No, I've based my thoughts on a situation where John clearly didn't want to be treated like something spectacular or have some kind of ability that other people don't have. Have I upset you? Did I hit a nerve saying Liam copies John Lennon?
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Post by matt on Sept 22, 2019 6:04:54 GMT -5
Like the rest of The Beatles, he probably wouldn’t care too much about Oasis.
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Post by matt on Sept 22, 2019 6:12:33 GMT -5
The interesting question is what if McCartney was the one to the assassinated? Would he have been instantly made a saint, legend, all of his songs been immediately held to be cultural milestones? Would Noel and Liam have taken to McCartney and become his disciples rather than Lennon's? Bearing in mind that McCartney always had 1 foot in the avant garde, weird, experimental scene in swinging London and pushed for them to record the still unrealeased freak out of Carnival of light as well as innovating the disorienting use of tape loops on Lennon's Tomorrow Never Knows. Would Lennons brand have become tarnished like McCartneys has in recent years by still regularly releasing albums to mostly public indifference at best but often hostile scorn? In a parallel universe, perhaps yes. Lennon would be viewed as some curmudgeonly bitter fucker by the press releasing rehashed rock n roll, while McCartneys musical talent would be praised, speaking of the finest melodist since Mozart and a craft and versatility not seen in any songwriter since (which is true). We live in the flip side of this - Lennon fits the stereotypical tortured genius with a tragic end (which is also true), while McCartney is viewed as the whimsical, shallow novelty laden lackey of mainstream pop.
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Post by madferitusa2025 on Sept 22, 2019 8:36:03 GMT -5
The interesting question is what if McCartney was the one to the assassinated? Would he have been instantly made a saint, legend, all of his songs been immediately held to be cultural milestones? Would Noel and Liam have taken to McCartney and become his disciples rather than Lennon's? Bearing in mind that McCartney always had 1 foot in the avant garde, weird, experimental scene in swinging London and pushed for them to record the still unrealeased freak out of Carnival of light as well as innovating the disorienting use of tape loops on Lennon's Tomorrow Never Knows. Would Lennons brand have become tarnished like McCartneys has in recent years by still regularly releasing albums to mostly public indifference at best but often hostile scorn?In a parallel universe, perhaps yes. Lennon would be viewed as some curmudgeonly bitter fucker by the press releasing rehashed rock n roll, while McCartneys musical talent would be praised, speaking of the finest melodist since Mozart and a craft and versatility not seen in any songwriter since (which is true). We live in the flip side of this - Lennon fits the stereotypical tortured genius with a tragic end (which is also true), while McCartney is viewed as the whimsical, shallow novelty laden lackey of mainstream pop. Hostile scorn? That's pretty tough language. Does anyone really react to Macca like that? John benefits bc he'll always be young. Same as the 27 club. He seemed to live down these stinkers well enough... www.amazon.com/Unfinished-Music-No-Two-Virgins/dp/B01LP5FER2/ref=ntt_mus_ep_dpi_13www.amazon.com/Unfinished-Music-No-Life-Lions/dp/B01LP5FET0/ref=ntt_mus_dp_dpt_19www.amazon.com/Wedding-Album-JOHN-YOKO-To the original question - I don't believe they would have latched on to Macca in the same way. I'm frequently wrong though
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Post by andymorris on Sept 22, 2019 8:37:15 GMT -5
True. The world did not care much anymore about Lennon before he died. He was that weird beatle guy from long ago.
Macca is so underrated it hurts really
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Post by matt on Sept 22, 2019 9:15:26 GMT -5
True. The world did not care much anymore about Lennon before he died. He was that weird beatle guy from long ago. Macca is so underrated it hurts really Under acknowledged by people who just don’t know The Beatles. It’s because he doesn’t reveal much about his personality in his music or adhere to the tortured genius that has become a cliche in rock music (as said above, Lennon was undoubtedly one but now it seems that to be trendy and artistic you have to stick to this rule). If he does reveal anything about his personality, it’s certainly a lot more oblique and cryptic - (e.g. Riding To Vanity Fair, Too Many People) There’s this great documentary by Howard Goodall from some years back and he exposes how skilfully crafted McCartney tunes were. Similar in vain to his documentary on Sgt Pepper a couple of years ago, it reveals a lot about how complex and sophisticated McCartneys melodies were. More amazing by the fact he’s not a trained musician and can’t read music, it’s just purely natural. The actual art and craft of songwriting, there has never been a more gifted individual in pop music. If he wasn’t in The Beatles, McCartney would have been writing Broadway musicals. It’s hard to pin McCartney down as a guy. He neither has the emotional outpouring of Lennon or the spiritual mysticism of Harrison and as a result, seems a bit vacuous in personality in comparison. Why this should discredit the unbelievably great amounts of work he has done is beyond me.
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Post by andymorris on Sept 22, 2019 9:22:47 GMT -5
True. The world did not care much anymore about Lennon before he died. He was that weird beatle guy from long ago. Macca is so underrated it hurts really Underrated by people who just don’t know The Beatles. It’s because he doesn’t reveal much about his personality in his music or adhere to the tortured genius that has become a cliche in rock music (as said above, Lennon was undoubtedly one but now it seems that to be trendy and artistic you have to stick to this rule). If he does reveal anything about his personality, it’s certainly a lot more oblique and cryptic - (e.g. Riding To Vanity Fair, Too Many People) There’s this great documentary by Howard Goodall from some years back and he exposes how skilfully crafted McCartney tunes were. Similar in vain to his documentary on Sgt Pepper a couple of years ago, it reveals a lot about how complex and sophisticated McCartneys melodies were. More amazing by the fact he’s not a trained musician and can’t read music, it’s just purely natural. The actual art and craft of songwriting, there has never been a more gifted individual in pop music. If he wasn’t in The Beatles, McCartney would have been writing Broadway musicals. It’s hard to pin McCartney down as a guy. He neither has the emotional outpouring of Lennon or the spiritual mysticism of Harrison and as a result, seems a bit vacuous in personality in comparison. Why this should discredit the unbelievably great amounts of work he has done is beyond me. Great post I’ll have to check that documentary thanx Actually I think the most interesting musicians are the ones who can’t read music or did not learn the « right way ». Those things tend to limit imagination and innovation really.
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Post by oasisserbia on Sept 22, 2019 11:07:25 GMT -5
Nobody knows what would Lennon be like.
Lennon from 1965≠Lennon from 1970≠Lennon from 1975≠Lennon from 1980
Maybe he would be miserable vagina, hating everyone, maybe he would be happy person opened for new ideas, sounds, music...
It would all probably depend on his relationship with Yoko and how would that go. He was just that kind of guy.
Macca would always gave the same answer about Oasis, in 1974,1984, 1994 or 2024.
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Post by matt on Sept 22, 2019 12:46:25 GMT -5
Underrated by people who just don’t know The Beatles. It’s because he doesn’t reveal much about his personality in his music or adhere to the tortured genius that has become a cliche in rock music (as said above, Lennon was undoubtedly one but now it seems that to be trendy and artistic you have to stick to this rule). If he does reveal anything about his personality, it’s certainly a lot more oblique and cryptic - (e.g. Riding To Vanity Fair, Too Many People) There’s this great documentary by Howard Goodall from some years back and he exposes how skilfully crafted McCartney tunes were. Similar in vain to his documentary on Sgt Pepper a couple of years ago, it reveals a lot about how complex and sophisticated McCartneys melodies were. More amazing by the fact he’s not a trained musician and can’t read music, it’s just purely natural. The actual art and craft of songwriting, there has never been a more gifted individual in pop music. If he wasn’t in The Beatles, McCartney would have been writing Broadway musicals. It’s hard to pin McCartney down as a guy. He neither has the emotional outpouring of Lennon or the spiritual mysticism of Harrison and as a result, seems a bit vacuous in personality in comparison. Why this should discredit the unbelievably great amounts of work he has done is beyond me. Great post I’ll have to check that documentary thanx Actually I think the most interesting musicians are the ones who can’t read music or did not learn the « right way ». Those things tend to limit imagination and innovation really. Sorry I meant ‘under acknowledged by people who don’t know The Beatles’ - not ‘underrated by those who don’t know The Beatles’ as it looks like I’m slagging off your original post! Changed that! But yeah I agree, musical theory might put many in a creative straitjacket is rather than letting their intuition and instinct guide them.
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Post by vagabookk on Sept 22, 2019 13:06:58 GMT -5
If m Lennon life probably he hate oasis cause they try sound as Beatles and especially Liam Gallagher cause he sing as Lennon does. So for sure he’s going to be the first one saying no no that band and that singer are shit nobody is going to be as good as Beatles an bla blab bla bla give me some truth give me peace an love but oasis are shot. Ok ok Lennon don’t get mad with me
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Post by davitpr on Sept 22, 2019 13:23:19 GMT -5
Well, Yoko Ono loves Liam. Lennon loved Yoko Ono. So, Lennon would probably like Liam too.
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Post by vagabookk on Sept 22, 2019 13:35:53 GMT -5
Yoko loves Liam cause Lennon is not alive to say : No! Bad Bitch!!. No!! And yoko ono loves whatever can help make some money with a documentary or remastered album so whoever speaking good on Lennon as liam does is god for yoko. So now think on Liam Playing a yoko ono album at home. I bet yoko ono don’t listen Liam music even I ve all I need inspired by yoko or new album why my why not. Name inspired again by yoko and Lennon
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Post by Lennon2217 on Dec 8, 2019 10:57:08 GMT -5
I’m a sucker for a good 70s interview with Lennon. I can get lost watching them on YouTube for hours. The man was so honest and open about every topic you could think to ask him. All was game. For example.
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