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Jul 5, 2019 6:35:48 GMT -5
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Post by DCUnited on Jul 5, 2019 6:35:48 GMT -5
Thought this dumpster fire of a thread was closed.
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Post by eva on Jul 5, 2019 6:44:10 GMT -5
Thought this dumpster fire of a thread was closed. yeah, my fault. I thought it was better to contain all the shit in here rather than it being spread in other threads maybe mimmi was right in closing this clusterfuck but then again you'll have people complaining that you can't "debate" or "critizice" when they only want to stir shit up fucking hell, now we have politics dragged into this. You literally just commended a post that compared this to populism and leaders. A clear comparison to politics. I did, and it was a good post analizying the situation the rest of the posts... not so much other than personal attacks and bringing up the current UK political scenario. yawn
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Post by elephantstone93 on Jul 5, 2019 6:45:46 GMT -5
Probably been posted but not reading every page.
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Jul 5, 2019 6:47:11 GMT -5
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Post by DCUnited on Jul 5, 2019 6:47:11 GMT -5
Thought this dumpster fire of a thread was closed. yeah, my fault. I thought it was better to contain all the shit in here rather than it being spread in other threads maybe mimmi was right in closing this clusterfuck but then again you'll have people complaining that you can't "debate" or "critizice" when they only want to stir shit up You literally just commended a post that compared this to populism and leaders. A clear comparison to politics. I did, and it was a good post analizying the situation the rest of the posts... not so much other than personal attacks and bringing up the current UK political scenario. yawn Ya it probably is a good idea to have all the nonsense stuck in here.
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Post by oasisunited on Jul 5, 2019 6:54:19 GMT -5
Btw,I have nothing but disgust about that recent Sun article about Mollie and Liam/Noel’s relationship. It’s horrid. Saw/read it yesterday and all I took away from it was an attempt by The Sun to appear neutral while still taking shots a Liam (editorial: not defending Liam personally here, just giving my opinion on the Sun's motive with that article). The whole "Noel paid for her schooling/made sure that she had Gallagher support" story line is cringy at best as well, especially knowing how private Noel is. The "Molly is using Liam to raise her profile" angle is vintage Sun and as you said "disgusting".
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Post by mancraider on Jul 5, 2019 7:13:20 GMT -5
Btw,I have nothing but disgust about that recent Sun article about Mollie and Liam/Noel’s relationship. It’s horrid. Saw/read it yesterday and all I took away from it was an attempt by The Sun to appear neutral while still taking shots a Liam (editorial: not defending Liam personally here, just giving my opinion on the Sun's motive with that article). The whole "Noel paid for her schooling/made sure that she had Gallagher support" story line is cringy at best as well, especially knowing how private Noel is. The "Molly is using Liam to raise her profile" angle is vintage Sun and as you said "disgusting". saw it earlier. Usual standard from the Sun. Mind you they are hardly fighting Noel's corner either, saying how bitter he is at Liams success and has been trying to hold him back. Should give the 'Noel has press in his pocket' conspiracy theorists pause for thought. Tabloids are scum, they will attack anyone at all with their lies as long as it gets them a story.
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Post by oasisunited on Jul 5, 2019 7:20:11 GMT -5
Mind you they are hardly fighting Noel's corner either, saying how bitter he is at Liams success and has been trying to hold him back. If you believe Liam's conspiracy theory that Sara's friends at the Sun were behind most of their negative articles about him, than the fact that they included the bitter Noel angle would be an attempt to look neutral/fight that perception while still being able to dig at Liam. Personally, I think they are being bottom feeders on both sides, so I am not defending Liam's paranoia or Noel's/Sara's media manipulation if either or both have been going on here.
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Jul 5, 2019 7:24:44 GMT -5
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Post by fartpanic on Jul 5, 2019 7:24:44 GMT -5
I know this is likely to be a silly question, but does anyone think any of them sources are genuine?
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Jul 5, 2019 7:26:22 GMT -5
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Post by fartpanic on Jul 5, 2019 7:26:22 GMT -5
Saw/read it yesterday and all I took away from it was an attempt by The Sun to appear neutral while still taking shots a Liam (editorial: not defending Liam personally here, just giving my opinion on the Sun's motive with that article). The whole "Noel paid for her schooling/made sure that she had Gallagher support" story line is cringy at best as well, especially knowing how private Noel is. The "Molly is using Liam to raise her profile" angle is vintage Sun and as you said "disgusting". saw it earlier. Usual standard from the Sun. Mind you they are hardly fighting Noel's corner either, saying how bitter he is at Liams success and has been trying to hold him back. Should give the 'Noel has press in his pocket' conspiracy theorists pause for thought. Tabloids are scum, they will attack anyone at all with their lies as long as it gets them a story. I love how you point out the one bit of the article that makes a feeble attempt to add balance. It states a fact that Liam is successful but then mocks it by saying it's a suprise because Noels always propped him up.
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Post by fartpanic on Jul 5, 2019 7:27:46 GMT -5
Probably been posted but not reading every page. Good for her. She should be aiming it directly at the ones writing the articles though.
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Post by mancraider on Jul 5, 2019 7:29:59 GMT -5
Mind you they are hardly fighting Noel's corner either, saying how bitter he is at Liams success and has been trying to hold him back. If you believe Liam's conspiracy theory that Sara's friends at the Sun were behind most of their negative articles about him, than the fact that they included the bitter Noel angle would be an attempt to look neutral/fight that perception while still being able to dig at Liam. Personally, I think they are being bottom feeders on both sides, so I am not defending Liam's paranoia or Noel's/Sara's media manipulation if either or both have been going on here. well undoubtedly they are going after Liam(and unfortunately Molly now by association) but they aren't holding back on Noel either, attributing the accusation that Molly is just using Liam to boost her modelling career to him and Sara and making him sound very bitter abut Liam's solo success. The Sun have no loyalty to anyone and to imagine Noel and Sara have any control over them is crazy imo. Maybe they did sell stories in the past, guess we will never know, but that will have been a strictly one way transaction if it happened. The Sun will have no hesitation on throwing them in the fire when it suits them.
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Jul 5, 2019 7:32:39 GMT -5
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Post by MacaRonic on Jul 5, 2019 7:32:39 GMT -5
Love how some people on here try and take the morale high ground by showing how much they are supposedly above all this. Come on now it wouldn’t be difficult to be above this. It’s just sad. When I was growing up Liam / Noel Gallagher were my idols. They were the coolest people on the planet to me, they were like Gods. But this crap makes me cringe and realize that I’m more mature than them both now which fundamentally makes me “above” this. I’m sure it’s the same for plenty other Oasis fans out there. I really don’t care and my excitement leading up to any new release is almost non existent. Maybe that’s just because I’m getting older and outgrowing it but this silly little children’s behavior doesn’t help I can tell you. They both should get a f#cking grip and grow up.
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Jul 5, 2019 7:34:01 GMT -5
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Post by mancraider on Jul 5, 2019 7:34:01 GMT -5
saw it earlier. Usual standard from the Sun. Mind you they are hardly fighting Noel's corner either, saying how bitter he is at Liams success and has been trying to hold him back. Should give the 'Noel has press in his pocket' conspiracy theorists pause for thought. Tabloids are scum, they will attack anyone at all with their lies as long as it gets them a story. I love how you point out the one bit of the article that makes a feeble attempt to add balance. It states a fact that Liam is successful but then mocks it by saying it's a suprise because Noels always propped him up. if you think that article makes Noel look good in anyway I think we were reading different articles. No doubt they are attacking Liam and Molly but it makes Noel and Sara sound every bit as sad and bitter.
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Post by oasisunited on Jul 5, 2019 7:44:42 GMT -5
I know this is likely to be a silly question, but does anyone think any of them sources are genuine? Not a one. "A music source". Ha. I spit out my drink when I read that in laughter. They didn't even go for the tired "a source close to" line.
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Post by bt95 on Jul 5, 2019 7:45:02 GMT -5
Love how some people on here try and take the morale high ground by showing how much they are supposedly above all this. Come on now it wouldn’t be difficult to be above this. It’s just sad. When I was growing up Liam / Noel Gallagher were my idols. They were the coolest people on the planet to me, they were like Gods. But this crap makes me cringe and realize that I’m more mature than them both now which fundamentally makes me “above” this. I’m sure it’s the same for plenty other Oasis fans out there. I really don’t care and my excitement leading up to any new release is almost non existent. Maybe that’s just because I’m getting older and outgrowing it but this silly little children’s behavior doesn’t help I can tell you. They both should get a f#cking grip and grow up. Can't believe i've just agreed with a red
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Jul 5, 2019 7:54:34 GMT -5
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Post by fartpanic on Jul 5, 2019 7:54:34 GMT -5
Love how some people on here try and take the morale high ground by showing how much they are supposedly above all this. Come on now it wouldn’t be difficult to be above this. It’s just sad. When I was growing up Liam / Noel Gallagher were my idols. They were the coolest people on the planet to me, they were like Gods. But this crap makes me cringe and realize that I’m more mature than them both now which fundamentally makes me “above” this. I’m sure it’s the same for plenty other Oasis fans out there. I really don’t care and my excitement leading up to any new release is almost non existent. Maybe that’s just because I’m getting older and outgrowing it but this silly little children’s behavior doesn’t help I can tell you. They both should get a f#cking grip and grow up. I meant more people coming on here remaining us what great lives they have and using it as an example of how theyre avoiding this thread. Quite a strange hypocrisy going on. They're still the coolest people on the planet to me. I just think these scenarios bring the very worst out of people. I totally agree both arent very mature for their age. You only have to watch a Noel interview from 2002 to realise he was more like a moody 20 year old. He did alot of maturing through 2005 onwards. Liam is probably another 30 off. Not long to wait.
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Jul 5, 2019 7:57:52 GMT -5
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Post by fartpanic on Jul 5, 2019 7:57:52 GMT -5
I love how you point out the one bit of the article that makes a feeble attempt to add balance. It states a fact that Liam is successful but then mocks it by saying it's a suprise because Noels always propped him up. if you think that article makes Noel look good in anyway I think we were reading different articles. No doubt they are attacking Liam and Molly but it makes Noel and Sara sound every bit as sad and bitter. It does take the narrative that Noel is the only reason for Oasis being successful and pretty much blames Liam for everything though. Agreed it doesn't show either in a good light. Probably because Noel hasn't responded when they've reached out for dirt on Liam in the past. I dont see it as any less indication to the power Noel has/Had in the media though. That press conference was the best example of that. His word was taken as fact on everything. And the Gordon Smart articles at the time of Oasis ending where clearly straight from Noel. It's quite sad that he was in the pocket of a Sun Journalist. Maybe "power" is a strong word, but major influence on everything he certainly has had.
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Post by mimmihopps on Jul 5, 2019 7:58:55 GMT -5
Thought this dumpster fire of a thread was closed. It was locked by me for a minute last night, but then we decided to leave it open, so I unlock this thread. It's better to have it/them in one thread instead of spreiding same sh*t all over the forum. That's the only reason why we keep this thread open.
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Post by fartpanic on Jul 5, 2019 8:00:23 GMT -5
I know this is likely to be a silly question, but does anyone think any of them sources are genuine? Not a one. "A music source". Ha. I spit out my drink when I read that in laughter. They didn't even go for the tired "a source close to" line. Why are journalists still allowed to use unnamed sources? It's yet another example of how bad journalism is that in that Sun article he hasn't even bothered to check if Liams 2nd album is out yet. He's put the song featured on his recent album, as if it's already out. It's astonishing. I think every Gallagher related article I've read recently has 3 concluding paragraphs talking about the night in Paris too. Stealing a living.
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Jul 5, 2019 8:03:02 GMT -5
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Post by fartpanic on Jul 5, 2019 8:03:02 GMT -5
I love how you point out the one bit of the article that makes a feeble attempt to add balance. It states a fact that Liam is successful but then mocks it by saying it's a suprise because Noels always propped him up. if you think that article makes Noel look good in anyway I think we were reading different articles. No doubt they are attacking Liam and Molly but it makes Noel and Sara sound every bit as sad and bitter. Irony from the writer to tweet about Liam bringing a young girl into all this, then goes and does exactly the same himself.
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Jul 5, 2019 8:14:35 GMT -5
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Post by fartpanic on Jul 5, 2019 8:14:35 GMT -5
Is that blokes first name really Gay?
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Jul 5, 2019 8:44:34 GMT -5
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Post by fartpanic on Jul 5, 2019 8:44:34 GMT -5
To those who have come out in support of Noel (how few of you there are), does it not speak volumes about how popular Noel now is that so little are in support of him all over social media? Sign of the times when anything Noel related is absolutely ridiculed on OASIS pages There’s nothing to support though? I’m not supporting noel - I said what he did was wrong. But people are so desperate to disregard what Liam did as okay and that’s fucking weird. So its a complete coincidence that the ones trashing Liam are the ones who always do it? I think all of the people in here that have seen things from Liams point of view have all said it was a stupid thing to do. I just think we don't see it quite the same way as the ones who can't wait to see him implode.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 5, 2019 8:54:54 GMT -5
Love how some people on here try and take the morale high ground by showing how much they are supposedly above all this. Come on now it wouldn’t be difficult to be above this. It’s just sad. When I was growing up Liam / Noel Gallagher were my idols. They were the coolest people on the planet to me, they were like Gods. But this crap makes me cringe and realize that I’m more mature than them both now which fundamentally makes me “above” this. I’m sure it’s the same for plenty other Oasis fans out there. Its pretty sad when you consider that they were in the biggest band in the world for a short time and arguably two of the coolest people on the planet at the time.......and now? well they are a couple of middle aged somewhat washed up rockstars having a social media battle that doesnt even have the benefit of witty humour. Its just very pathetic.
I'm 26 and I feel a lot more mature than these two, as anyone should above being a teenager really. People in their 40s and 50s certainly shouldnt doing this crap. All I can really assume is that due to the kind of lives they have had, they have never really needed to mature. They are just older versions of their 90s selves.
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Post by GlastoEls on Jul 5, 2019 9:13:09 GMT -5
^ Part of the problem is that they’re NOT washed up - they have managed a staggering continuity of success.
That’s why they’re still of interest to the tabloids like this.
They need a fucking truce to cut this out as the poison is spreading (Anais yesterday, now Molly & Lisa).
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Post by Deleted on Jul 5, 2019 9:19:33 GMT -5
Probably been posted but not reading every page. The Daily Mail also wrote a nasty story about Molly a couple of weeks ago. Lisa Moorish tweeted she was going to sue them and denied that Liam ever paid her to keep quiet (a claim that was in the article).
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