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Post by fedoel on Oct 24, 2017 12:07:07 GMT -5
Anybody heard something? I can't find anything online
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Post by Deleted on Oct 24, 2017 12:11:23 GMT -5
He's just playing the track on his radio show.
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Post by Lennon2217 on Oct 24, 2017 12:12:07 GMT -5
Now it’ll break the top 60 for sure!!!!!
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Post by oasisserbia on Oct 24, 2017 14:00:47 GMT -5
Now it’ll break the top 60 for sure!!!!! I BELIEVE!!!
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Post by anais on Oct 24, 2017 14:20:17 GMT -5
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Post by liamgallagher1992 on Oct 24, 2017 15:48:34 GMT -5
But did he go shop for a pint of milk?
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Post by jxing on Oct 25, 2017 20:24:55 GMT -5
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Post by spaneli on Oct 25, 2017 20:28:57 GMT -5
I'm just baffled by his PR... I don't get the importance of a radio station just playing a song. It's the person who's playing the song. They wouldn't advertise any old radio station/program. That's least weird thing his team has done.
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Post by jxing on Oct 25, 2017 20:36:15 GMT -5
I'm just baffled by his PR... I don't get the importance of a radio station just playing a song. It's the person who's playing the song. They wouldn't advertise any old radio station/program. That's least weird thing his team has done. I know it's Elton John... I'm not sure it validates a social media post. Now, had he interviewed Noel.. that might be worthy. I've met Elton John and just wasn't that impressed. Like I've said, I'm hoping his PR team starts impressing me!
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Post by pickupthebase on Oct 25, 2017 22:12:31 GMT -5
I am shocked by this. I am certain Noel of the 90s would cringe at the idea of Elton playing his music. I could be very wrong but this ain’t my bag at all.
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Post by jordan71421 on Oct 25, 2017 22:27:32 GMT -5
I am shocked by this. I am certain Noel of the 90s would cringe at the idea of Elton playing his music. I could be very wrong but this ain’t my bag at all. It’s 2017
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Post by Deleted on Oct 26, 2017 8:20:33 GMT -5
Anyone else think that so far the PR and build up to Noel's album isn't feeling as effective as the campaign for Liam's album? Hope I'm wrong and it sells well when it's released but when this sort of meaningless shit is considered one for the win column it feels like something is amiss.
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Post by andymorris on Oct 26, 2017 8:27:09 GMT -5
I'm just baffled by his PR... I don't get the importance of a radio station just playing a song. Beats 1 is Apple's radio station, by default when you go on Apple Music or click on the music app on the iPhone. Sooo pretty important i believe... Kinda then redirects the potential buyer to itunes... Zane Lowe didn't go there by mistake. Anyone else think that so far the PR and build up to Noel's album isn't feeling as effective as the campaign for Liam's album? Hope I'm wrong and it sells well when it's released but when this sort of meaningless shit is considered one for the win column it feels like something is amiss. Noel has a following, a fanbase. Liam had to rebuilt from the ground up. Two different situations. Noel has less money to invest in marketing than Liam, who had Warner behind him. Noel has only himself, but he'll probably make way more money than Liam, even if he sells less record, simply because Noel is an independent artist, Liam is not. He's got to give around 10% to promotion, video shootings and the Warner share... etc It's all about the balance between investement and revenue.
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Post by jxing on Oct 26, 2017 8:37:12 GMT -5
Anyone else think that so far the PR and build up to Noel's album isn't feeling as effective as the campaign for Liam's album? Hope I'm wrong and it sells well when it's released but when this sort of meaningless shit is considered one for the win column it feels like something is amiss. I agree 100%... I get he's annoyed with the constant Liam questions but in the past he's been able to give a snarky and funny comment. I don't get it. I'm hoping it's just too much partying with u2 and things change.🤞
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Post by Deleted on Oct 26, 2017 9:21:39 GMT -5
Anyone else think that so far the PR and build up to Noel's album isn't feeling as effective as the campaign for Liam's album? Hope I'm wrong and it sells well when it's released but when this sort of meaningless shit is considered one for the win column it feels like something is amiss. Noel has a following, a fanbase. Liam had to rebuilt from the ground up. Two different situations. Noel has less money to invest in marketing than Liam, who had Warner behind him. Noel has only himself, but he'll probably make way more money than Liam, even if he sells less record, simply because Noel is an independent artist, Liam is not. He's got to give around 10% to promotion, video shootings and the Warner share... etc It's all about the balance between investement and revenue. I understand the business aspects and it's a good point. But I still feel Noel's PR and management could have been far more effective in marketing this album. It could be argued they should have started releasing music or doing a more focused PR campaign for Noel far earlier than they did, got people more used to this new direction, they could have chosen a better lead single than Holy Mountain, they could give greater consideration to engaging younger consumers and embracing new digital platforms etc. Independent or not, and even with a famous name, these elements are still needed to sell music in this age when no one wants to pay for it. I find Noel's judgement of his own material quite questionable to be honest and his management are just useless Yes men in terms of marketing and promoting his material. It also doesn't help that Noel is not coming over well in interviews lately. If he's not being incredibly bitter about Liam (with his wit he could easily just make fun of him and make people laugh) he's trotting out the usual tiresome stuff about his wife's opinion of his music and partying with Bono. Is anyone in Noel's camp going to actually be honest with him about any of this? Not a chance. As I said though, hope I'm wrong and Noel's album does great. I'm crossing fingers and toes it does, would be great to have two Gallaghers with successful albums in consecutive months.
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Post by noliamno on Oct 26, 2017 10:01:58 GMT -5
But did he go shop for a pint of milk? waited in the queue?
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Post by liamgallagher1992 on Oct 26, 2017 10:25:17 GMT -5
Anyone else think that so far the PR and build up to Noel's album isn't feeling as effective as the campaign for Liam's album? Hope I'm wrong and it sells well when it's released but when this sort of meaningless shit is considered one for the win column it feels like something is amiss. I think both Gallaghers have been guilty of arrogance when it comes to marketing since Oasis split. Nothing is difficult about marketing either of them. Noels team decided from the start to him on the cover, get a song on a commerical etc and it all paid off. Beady Eye missed the name of Liam, a random cover etc and they just arrogantly thought everyone would know what Liam was up to. This time Liams done all of that and had a few great marketing tricks along the way. Noels team this time around seen to be thinking they dont need to do an awful lot to get this album to sell. Maybe theyll be right because the PR Liam vs Noel will get might be enough to get the interest there, we will see.
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Post by Mean Mrs. Mustard on Oct 26, 2017 10:41:00 GMT -5
Anyone else think that so far the PR and build up to Noel's album isn't feeling as effective as the campaign for Liam's album? Hope I'm wrong and it sells well when it's released but when this sort of meaningless shit is considered one for the win column it feels like something is amiss. I think both Gallaghers have been guilty of arrogance when it comes to marketing since Oasis split. Nothing is difficult about marketing either of them. Noels team decided from the start to him on the cover, get a song on a commerical etc and it all paid off. Beady Eye missed the name of Liam, a random cover etc and they just arrogantly thought everyone would know what Liam was up to. This time Liams done all of that and had a few great marketing tricks along the way. Noels team this time around seen to be thinking they dont need to do an awful lot to get this album to sell. Maybe theyll be right because the PR Liam vs Noel will get might be enough to get the interest there, we will see. To be honest, Liam has a very recognizable voice plus they appeared on a few big talk show kind of things. Plus they just weren't that great. They were marketed very poorly. However, I'm fairly sure that the majority of people who had heard of Beady Eye, also knew Liam was in it.
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Post by liamgallagher1992 on Oct 26, 2017 10:56:19 GMT -5
I think both Gallaghers have been guilty of arrogance when it comes to marketing since Oasis split. Nothing is difficult about marketing either of them. Noels team decided from the start to him on the cover, get a song on a commerical etc and it all paid off. Beady Eye missed the name of Liam, a random cover etc and they just arrogantly thought everyone would know what Liam was up to. This time Liams done all of that and had a few great marketing tricks along the way. Noels team this time around seen to be thinking they dont need to do an awful lot to get this album to sell. Maybe theyll be right because the PR Liam vs Noel will get might be enough to get the interest there, we will see. To be honest, Liam has a very recognizable voice plus they appeared on a few big talk show kind of things. Plus they just weren't that great. They were marketed very poorly. However, I'm fairly sure that the majority of people who had heard of Beady Eye, also knew Liam was in it. To me, since following this marketing campaign and the Beady Eye one as much as i have, ive realised the casual fan is, for want of a better word, kind of like a sheep? Dont get me wrong, theres much about As You Were as an album that is stronger, but the casual fan hears off his mate about "liams shit new band" and listens to the song and sees it for all its flaws and says yeah theyre shit. Wall of Glass gets played at one love and Liams worshiped by everyone there and everyone sees that and suddenly Wall Of Glass is played 12m times on Spotify (beady eye have like 3m with the roller even now). It kind of becomes more acceptable to like things when other people do and the whole wave of Tweets etc has all played into it well. I think stuff like that makes a big difference. People are sheep. Im not including anyone on here in that because, for all of the Liam vs Noel shit, theres no casual fans that hardly differentiate between the two.
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Post by jxing on Oct 26, 2017 11:33:21 GMT -5
Everything related to this album, feels extremely rushed. Imo he should have given more space between his album and LG. As well As more space from his tour with U2 especially since he's not really performing hardly any new material. I know they're different albums but they will forever be linked together.. no matter how much he tries to distance himself. I'm extremely guilty of comparing them... It's hard not to. His concerts are not selling, at least in the U.S. Everything is screaming way too last minute, and I think it's really going to affect him.
Simply put, his people and him got too comfortable with his success in his past albums..mainly because he didn't have any competition. Him and his team (ignition) are basically non-existent on social media. I agree with the too many "yes" people. although he still has time to turn it around.. but I think his attitude will not allow him to do so.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 26, 2017 17:37:26 GMT -5
I agree with the rushed feel to it. Even stranger when you consider the album was finished before the summer.
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Post by mossy on Oct 27, 2017 8:58:06 GMT -5
To be honest, Liam has a very recognizable voice plus they appeared on a few big talk show kind of things. Plus they just weren't that great. They were marketed very poorly. However, I'm fairly sure that the majority of people who had heard of Beady Eye, also knew Liam was in it. To me, since following this marketing campaign and the Beady Eye one as much as i have, ive realised the casual fan is, for want of a better word, kind of like a sheep? Dont get me wrong, theres much about As You Were as an album that is stronger, but the casual fan hears off his mate about "liams shit new band" and listens to the song and sees it for all its flaws and says yeah theyre shit. Wall of Glass gets played at one love and Liams worshiped by everyone there and everyone sees that and suddenly Wall Of Glass is played 12m times on Spotify (beady eye have like 3m with the roller even now). It kind of becomes more acceptable to like things when other people do and the whole wave of Tweets etc has all played into it well. I think stuff like that makes a big difference. People are sheep. Im not including anyone on here in that because, for all of the Liam vs Noel shit, theres no casual fans that hardly differentiate between the two. What you're describing has been scientifically proven. Can't find the reference now, but in an experiment a website was put up that listed 10 songs. People could listen to them and vote which they thought was best. The results were completely random. That is, no one song was intrinsically "better" than another. The experiment was then repeated with one difference: this time around people could see the previous votes. This time round, whichever songs had already been voted high early on got voted higher still. Because later people just copied the people before them. It's a psychological coping strategy I suppose, makes decision making easier.
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Post by AubreyOasis on Oct 27, 2017 13:28:58 GMT -5
To me, since following this marketing campaign and the Beady Eye one as much as i have, ive realised the casual fan is, for want of a better word, kind of like a sheep? Dont get me wrong, theres much about As You Were as an album that is stronger, but the casual fan hears off his mate about "liams shit new band" and listens to the song and sees it for all its flaws and says yeah theyre shit. Wall of Glass gets played at one love and Liams worshiped by everyone there and everyone sees that and suddenly Wall Of Glass is played 12m times on Spotify (beady eye have like 3m with the roller even now). It kind of becomes more acceptable to like things when other people do and the whole wave of Tweets etc has all played into it well. I think stuff like that makes a big difference. People are sheep. Im not including anyone on here in that because, for all of the Liam vs Noel shit, theres no casual fans that hardly differentiate between the two. What you're describing has been scientifically proven. Can't find the reference now, but in an experiment a website was put up that listed 10 songs. People could listen to them and vote which they thought was best. The results were completely random. That is, no one song was intrinsically "better" than another. The experiment was then repeated with one difference: this time around people could see the previous votes. This time round, whichever songs had already been voted high early on got voted higher still. Because later people just copied the people before them. It's a psychological coping strategy I suppose, makes decision making easier. I think you are probably talking about this study: www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3785310/
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