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Post by aloneontherope on Nov 28, 2017 5:55:58 GMT -5
Is Who built the Moon the most critically acclaimed Gallagher related release this century ? Yep. Almost certain now.
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Post by Headmaster on Nov 28, 2017 8:07:32 GMT -5
7.1??
They are mellowing out, pussies.
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Post by ricardogce on Nov 28, 2017 9:26:03 GMT -5
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Post by Frank Lee Vulgar on Nov 28, 2017 10:21:24 GMT -5
The review itself is actually pretty good.
"Where Liam’s As You Were is essentially the perfunctory Fauxasis album that his old band would’ve churned out this year had they slogged it out this far, Who Built the Moon? feels like an attempt to rewrite their post-Morning Glory history."
Maybe a little harsh on AYW, but the main point is definitely a good one.
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Post by walterglass on Nov 28, 2017 11:15:17 GMT -5
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Post by ricardogce on Nov 28, 2017 12:04:59 GMT -5
I love the cover art, but a plain white cover with just "Pitchfork couldn't find a plausible way to slam this record without losing face" on it would be just as great.
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Post by CFC2013 on Nov 28, 2017 12:16:20 GMT -5
I think this is the most critically acclaimed Gallagher album since Morning Glory. The critics shat all over Be Here Now, didn't they?
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Post by discworld on Nov 28, 2017 12:26:36 GMT -5
I think this is the most critically acclaimed Gallagher album since Morning Glory. The critics shat all over Be Here Now, didn't they? not in their first reviews.
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Post by CFC2013 on Nov 28, 2017 12:35:45 GMT -5
I think this is the most critically acclaimed Gallagher album since Morning Glory. The critics shat all over Be Here Now, didn't they? not in their first reviews. Well. it's pretty poorly received now, so I'll consider Morning Glory the benchmark.
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Post by GlastoEls on Nov 28, 2017 12:42:57 GMT -5
not in their first reviews. Well. it's pretty poorly received now, so I'll consider Morning Glory the benchmark. Morning Glory didn’t get amazing reviews when it came out - that’s why critics over compensated for Be Here Now. I myself thought “what the fuck” when I first heard Morning Glory (on day of release in 1995) which seems ludicrous now. Only Definitely Maybe has been praised across the board.
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Post by spaneli on Nov 28, 2017 12:45:32 GMT -5
I think the cool thing about that 7.1, is if Noel can get a 7.1, then it's possible for him to go higher.
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Post by chamu on Nov 28, 2017 12:54:00 GMT -5
Pitchfork rated The Masterplan with 3.7 and for me it´s mindblowing. So if they rated WBTM with a 7.1 should i think is shit and a pretencious/cool/hispter type record whom always loves this "magazine"?
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Post by NoL&LearM on Nov 28, 2017 12:58:08 GMT -5
I often read oasis-related wiki pages and always feel bad when I see that Pitchfork give very law scores on almost every oasis albums.. So it is nice to see Noel finally got a good score from them! Well done
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Post by AubreyOasis on Nov 28, 2017 12:58:51 GMT -5
Pitchfork rated The Masterplan with 3.7 and for me it´s mindblowing. So if they rated WBTM with a 7.1 should i think is shit and a pretencious/cool/hispter type record whom always loves this "magazine"? Personally, I believe you should think whatever your ears say to you, and not Pitchfork's or any other review. That said, Pitchfork has a very strong influence in what is listened by certain part of the audience, and that is why I am happy Noel got a good score
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Post by matt on Nov 28, 2017 15:01:49 GMT -5
www.clashmusic.com/features/shoot-a-hole-into-the-sun-the-psychedelic-wanderings-of-noel-gallagherNot a review but an interesting feature focusing on a retrospective look back at Noel's more psychedelic influences and experimental leanings in the wake of his new album. Any 'fan' shocked and appalled at what they perceive as a 'drastic departure' for Noel really shouldn't be surprised given his past forays. This is a man who after all wrote the bulk of what is largely perceived as the weirdest number one single of the 90s in Setting Sun. People don't give him enough credit for that - certainly not his ignorant and not nearly as smart-as-they-think critics who paint him in broad brushstrokes. It's also strange to think of how insignificant most of us treated the b-side remixes from Dig Out Your Soul. As the article states, Oasis never did b-side remixes so the fact they arrived with this album now seemingly went against the nature of the band. As such, in hindsight, it proves as an indication of Noel wanting to spread his wings. Perhaps most surprising then is that it took 9 years for him to do just that as circumstances went against him in the wake of Oasis split (unhappy with the AA collaboration and Holmes refusing to work on Chasing Yesterday seemed to force him to revert to type in releasing the much more traditional first two HFB albums).
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Post by bt95 on Nov 28, 2017 15:46:42 GMT -5
www.clashmusic.com/features/shoot-a-hole-into-the-sun-the-psychedelic-wanderings-of-noel-gallagherNot a review but an interesting feature focusing on a retrospective look back at Noel's more psychedelic influences and experimental leanings in the wake of his new album. Any 'fan' shocked and appalled at what they perceive as a 'drastic departure' for Noel really shouldn't be surprised given his past forays. This is a man who after all wrote the bulk of what is largely perceived as the weirdest number one single of the 90s in Setting Sun. People don't give him enough credit for that - certainly not his ignorant and not nearly as smart-as-they-think critics who paint him in broad brushstrokes. It's also strange to think of how insignificant most of us treated the b-side remixes from Dig Out Your Soul. As the article states, Oasis never did b-sides so the fact they arrived with this album now seemingly went against the nature of the band. As such, in hindsight, it proves as an indication of Noel wanting to spread his wings. Perhaps most surprising then is that it took 9 years for him to do just that as circumstances went against him in the wake of Oasis split (unhappy with the AA collaboration and Holmes refusing to work on Chasing Yesterday seemed to force him to revert to type in releasing the much more traditional first two HFB albums). Noel's an easy target for the critics. Always has been. They've listened to Radiohead one-too-many times (i.e. twice )
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Post by AubreyOasis on Nov 28, 2017 16:15:26 GMT -5
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Post by CFC2013 on Nov 28, 2017 16:57:15 GMT -5
Great write up and counterpoint to that dreadful Irish Times article.
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Post by philko87 on Nov 28, 2017 18:27:37 GMT -5
They invoke Lidl without making the ‘Lidl By Lidl’ joke. For shame.
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Post by thomaslivesforever on Nov 28, 2017 18:31:55 GMT -5
I think the cool thing about that 7.1, is if Noel can get a 7.1, then it's possible for him to go higher. I understand why you are happy with the review, its a damn good one but I don't know why you would use it as a benchmark for him doing better next time. Pitchfork being what it is he could put out a better album and they might trash it depending which way the wind is blowing at the time.
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Post by spaneli on Nov 28, 2017 18:37:51 GMT -5
I think the cool thing about that 7.1, is if Noel can get a 7.1, then it's possible for him to go higher. I understand why you are happy with the review, its a damn good one but I don't know why you would use it as a benchmark for him doing better next time. Pitchfork being what it is he could put out a better album and they might trash it depending which way the wind is blowing at the time. Pitchfork being what it is, I don't think many of us saw a 7.1 coming. I'm not saying 7.1 is the new benchmark. A benchmark would be an assumed minimum. But i do now think that it is possible for him to get higher than 7.1.
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Post by thomaslivesforever on Nov 28, 2017 18:48:01 GMT -5
I understand why you are happy with the review, its a damn good one but I don't know why you would use it as a benchmark for him doing better next time. Pitchfork being what it is he could put out a better album and they might trash it depending which way the wind is blowing at the time. Pitchfork being what it is, I don't think many of us saw a 7.1 coming. I'm not saying 7.1 is the new benchmark. A benchmark would be an assumed minimum. But i do now think that it is possible for him to get higher than 7.1. I suppose because of how extreme they can be makes them a very unreliable gauge of music. I don't really trust them and therefore there opinions don't really mean anything to me, not that they're wrong in this case
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Post by AdidasNG72 on Nov 29, 2017 1:58:06 GMT -5
not in their first reviews. Well. it's pretty poorly received now, so I'll consider Morning Glory the benchmark. MG wasn't well received when it came out. BHN got 5 stars across the board with most reviews when it first came out. Personally I think the critics got it spot on with BHN. It's fair to say this is the most critically acclaimed NG album since the release of BHN.
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Post by walterglass on Nov 29, 2017 2:48:55 GMT -5
Well. it's pretty poorly received now, so I'll consider Morning Glory the benchmark. MG wasn't well received when it came out. BHN got 5 stars across the board with most reviews when it first came out. Personally I think the critics got it spot on with BHN. It's fair to say this is the most critically acclaimed NG album since the release of BHN. 20 years I’ve spent trying to love BHN as much as you do. Never fucking clicks.
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Post by AdidasNG72 on Nov 29, 2017 3:32:54 GMT -5
MG wasn't well received when it came out. BHN got 5 stars across the board with most reviews when it first came out. Personally I think the critics got it spot on with BHN. It's fair to say this is the most critically acclaimed NG album since the release of BHN. 20 years I’ve spent trying to love BHN as much as you do. Never fucking clicks. BHN has to be listened to in the right conditions, and in the right frame of mind. Firstly, it has to be stuck on loud. Very loud. Preferably when you are driving with the roof down on a sunny day, or when you are with a group of mates getting pissed. Secondly, its not music to be analysed in depth. Forget the lyrics, forget the fact that the instruments are often indistinguishable, and the acoustics are not nice and clear. Let go of any music snobbery. Its an album to feel good to. Go with the flow. Get the goosebumps during the solo part of Magic Pie, sing happily along to Stand By Me, followed by the adrenaline fuelled IHITIK, feel the euphoria when the naa-naaas finally kick in during All Around the World, get on board the crazy final ride of Its Getting Better Man, particularly the ridiculously long outro that I wish would go on and on forever. It was a special moment captured in time, and to get the essence of BHN is to try and recreate that moment again, wherever you are. If you are lucky enough to manage to do so, it hits the soul on a primitive level far more than any other record I have listened to.
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