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Post by Bonehead's Barber on Mar 28, 2017 10:52:44 GMT -5
To some extent Liam already is playing the game by going solo at long last. He should have cashed in on his name after Oasis split and been 'Liam from Oasis' rather than masquerade as another band. He is now doing that but will he go one further and do the done thing, which is play nice on Graham Norton and appear on other chat shows - or will he do the 'if you think it's shit don't by it, if you don't then cool' thing.
Personally this is absolutely his last chance at continuing his legacy and I think he needs to play the game. These songs WILL be good, there's no denying that. He just needs to sell them properly.
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Post by tomlivesforever on Mar 28, 2017 10:54:09 GMT -5
To some extent Liam already is playing the game by going solo at long last. He should have cashed in on his name after Oasis split and been 'Liam from Oasis' rather than masquerade as another band. He is now doing that but will he go one further and do the done thing, which is play nice on Graham Norton and appear on other chat shows - or will he do the 'if you think it's shit don't by it, if you don't then cool' thing. Personally this is absolutely his last chance at continuing his legacy and I think he needs to play the game. These songs WILL be good, there's no denying that. He just needs to sell them properly. He wasn't masquerading as anything, him and his mates wanted to keep going as a band. Whatever the results of that I don't see it as a mistake, its what they wanted to do at the time. Liam probably doesn't define himself or his life as much by record sales as some here would like him too. We have no idea if the songs are good to be fair.
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Post by themightyeye on Mar 28, 2017 11:13:12 GMT -5
I think he regrets Beady Eye cuz they were weak albums. If anything BE hurt Liam and he needs a big effort to make BE a distant memory
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Post by mystoryisgory on Mar 28, 2017 11:14:50 GMT -5
There's nothing you can do that can't be done Nothing you can sing that can't be sung Nothing you can say but you can learn how to play the game It's easy!!
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Post by uǝɥʇɐǝɥ on Mar 28, 2017 11:17:26 GMT -5
I think this time around it should be fine... as long as he doesn't appear on Good Morning Britain.
The BE release has been too much of a negative example.
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Post by ninestonecowboy on Mar 28, 2017 11:23:23 GMT -5
I don't think he needs to "play the game".
He's in his mid 40's and everyone knows the way he is, some like him, some don't. I don't think going on chat shows is considered playing the game as such, it's just promotion. I doubt he's going to go on and pretend he's something he's not. At the end of the day, Oasis have always been pretty much a mainstream band, so going on TV shows and promoting records is what he is used to.
The way i see it is that everyone that needs to know about him already knows about him. He has a platform already, he just needs to deliver good music and people will buy it or they won't and he knows that.
I don't think it's a case of trying to be cool by saying don't buy it if you don't like it. He's just been around long enough to know that people will decide anyway so there's no point in begging them to buy it.
It's a good and bad thing really. One on hand he already has a status and platform, everyone knows him so it will get listened to and get exposure. On the other hand, he's simply going to be judged on the music now. Everyone knows him, it's not like he can be marketed and moulded into a product to be sold to young kids who lap anything up. Everyone has a preconceived idea of him anyway, so all that's left is the music that people haven't heard yet. It's down to him to impress people. There isn't much he can do in terms of playing the game, he isn't that relevant anymore if we're being honest.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 28, 2017 11:39:37 GMT -5
I think he regrets Beady Eye cuz they were weak albums. If anything BE hurt Liam and he needs a big effort to make BE a distant memory well we know he regrets DGSS to an extent because he said that they wouldnt be playing much from that album on the BE tour plus he said something along the lines of "last time as abit stupid", BE was a better effort but clearly most people wernt interested. Liam said he wasnt all about playing stadiums and getting number 1s because hes already done that in oasis but I think its quite clear thats exactly what he wants otherwise he wouldnt of minded beady eye not being hugely popular, they wernt exactly poorly received, they still sold a decent amount of albums, they just didnt reach the heights Liam had hoped for.
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Post by freddy838 on Mar 28, 2017 12:13:57 GMT -5
To some extent Liam already is playing the game by going solo at long last. He should have cashed in on his name after Oasis split and been 'Liam from Oasis' rather than masquerade as another band. He is now doing that but will he go one further and do the done thing, which is play nice on Graham Norton and appear on other chat shows - or will he do the 'if you think it's shit don't by it, if you don't then cool' thing. Personally this is absolutely his last chance at continuing his legacy and I think he needs to play the game. These songs WILL be good, there's no denying that. He just needs to sell them properly. He wasn't masquerading as anything, him and his mates wanted to keep going as a band. Whatever the results of that I don't see it as a mistake, its what they wanted to do at the time. Liam probably doesn't define himself or his life as much by record sales as some here would like him too. We have no idea if the songs are good to be fair. He's gone on record and said it though, hasn't he? He wasn't happy just being in a medium size indie band and being back in the pack while Noel was selling out the O2. I think him 'playing the game' would show he's grown up a bit.
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Post by The Chief on Mar 28, 2017 12:28:23 GMT -5
Liam's never played the game. He's always been what he was for better or worse. Noel too for that matter. He's always been more keen to do the things you're talking about than Liam.
Frankly I don't see Liam not being Liam. And that's just fine.
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Post by Jgrp on Mar 28, 2017 12:46:17 GMT -5
Can't see him playing the game. No doubt he'll perform on chat shows but not many interviews. And no doubt the interviews he does will predominately be awkward as fuck. Shame cos he used to be so charismatic in interviews whereas now he's just awkward with 1 word answers.
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Post by thomuk2006 on Mar 28, 2017 13:16:39 GMT -5
hopefully nothing as awkward as this
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Post by Jgrp on Mar 28, 2017 13:48:55 GMT -5
hopefully nothing as awkward as this He looks cool as fuck and sounds alright though tbf
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Post by frogerz on Mar 29, 2017 5:36:12 GMT -5
No artist will get anywhere without 'playing the game' and doing chat shows etc.
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Post by Gas Panic on Mar 29, 2017 5:42:46 GMT -5
No artist will get anywhere without 'playing the game' and doing chat shows etc. Bob Dylan?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 29, 2017 6:05:25 GMT -5
No artist will get anywhere without 'playing the game' and doing chat shows etc. Bob Dylan? stone roses? or stretching to other forms banksy? people dont even know who that guy is.
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Post by frogerz on Mar 29, 2017 8:19:53 GMT -5
stone roses? or stretching to other forms banksy? people dont even know who that guy is. Bob Dylan I'll agree with you on. But the Roses have done plenty of TV shows over the years.
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Post by Gas Panic on Mar 29, 2017 8:49:11 GMT -5
stone roses? or stretching to other forms banksy? people dont even know who that guy is. Bob Dylan I'll agree with you on. But the Roses have done plenty of TV shows over the years.
You can also add Neil Young to that list. If only Noel had one tenth of that mans balls.
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Post by shoreline on Mar 29, 2017 8:58:15 GMT -5
hopefully nothing as awkward as this I remember feeling so awkward and a bit embarrassed when watching this when it first was uploaded. I enjoy some of the stuff Beady Eye has done, but I really really don't like that song, and thought it was a bad choice for a single. When the hosts also introduced it as being like an introduction or lesson in how to make rock music/ be a rockstar, and the band lauched into that song... I really wanted them to do well, but it felt so embarrassing and made me cringe. I get that they would want to promote their single, but "I'm Just Saying" would probably have been better for the occation considering how the hosts introduced them. Would probably have been a better single as well. Even though it sounds like an attempt at writing something from WTSMG and dated in that way, it's at least a decent song.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 29, 2017 9:00:21 GMT -5
hopefully nothing as awkward as this He looks cool as fuck and sounds alright though tbf He sounds awful, like someones put his nose in a vice and then pulled his tonsils out of his mouth. He doesn't look great either, used to look so much cooler, now he looks like he dresses how he thinks Liam Gallagher should dress.
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Post by Mr. Bigglesworth on Mar 29, 2017 9:13:34 GMT -5
He looks cool as fuck and sounds alright though tbf He sounds awful, like someones put his nose in a vice and then pulled his tonsils out of his mouth. He doesn't look great either, used to look so much cooler, now he looks like he dresses how he thinks Liam Gallagher should dress. Yawn... Well I bet Liam thinks how Liam would dress.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 29, 2017 11:03:38 GMT -5
tbh thats pretty much a good vocal from Liam these days, if your expecting a lot more than that then your probably going to be disappointed.
just the way it is.
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Post by Rolo on Mar 29, 2017 11:18:12 GMT -5
He looks cool as fuck and sounds alright though tbf He sounds awful, like someones put his nose in a vice and then pulled his tonsils out of his mouth. He doesn't look great either, used to look so much cooler, now he looks like he dresses how he thinks Liam Gallagher should dress.Eh?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 29, 2017 11:39:42 GMT -5
No point. He could release the best Gallagher related album since 1995 and he still wouldn't sell much. Popular music has been utter dreg since about 2006 (and it was only okay-ish then). The only way he could play the game and become relevant is by teaming up with some hack dance music producer to clubify his songs in an Avici kind of way...which would probably lead to me offing myself to be honest!
I hope he just appreciates any success he gets, doesn't expect to fill arenas and can enjoy himself and be happy playing to a loyal fanbase and sells enough to make another record.
Even if he still had his 1995 voice and could write songs as good as Noel did in the early 90's he still wouldn't make a big splash, particularly across the pond. The appetite for this type of music just isn't out there and I don't think it ever will be again.
Personal opinion: Most people my age are vapid fucktards. He's never going to get through to 'the kids.' If he can have a similar type of success as Noel amoungst throwbacks like me and middle aged people I'd be absolutely thrilled.
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Post by MacaRonic on Mar 29, 2017 12:08:27 GMT -5
No point. He could release the best Gallagher related album since 1995 and he still wouldn't sell much. Popular music has been utter dreg since about 2006 (and it was only okay-ish then). The only way he could play the game and become relevant is by teaming up with some hack dance music producer to clubify his songs in an Avici kind of way...which would probably lead to me offing myself to be honest! I hope he just appreciates any success he gets, doesn't expect to fill arenas and can enjoy himself and be happy playing to a loyal fanbase and sells enough to make another record. Even if he still had his 1995 voice and could write songs as good as Noel did in the early 90's he still wouldn't make a big splash, particularly across the pond. The appetite for this type of music just isn't out there and I don't think it ever will be again. Personal opinion: Most people my age are vapid fucktards. He's never going to get through to 'the kids.' If he can have a similar type of success as Noel amoungst throwbacks like me and middle aged people I'd be absolutely thrilled. Pretty much spot on this ^^
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Post by freddy838 on Mar 29, 2017 13:45:04 GMT -5
tbh thats pretty much a good vocal from Liam these days, if your expecting a lot more than that then your probably going to be disappointed. just the way it is. I think his performance of Iz Rite was much better on Chatty Man. It was a decent interview too from what I remember.
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