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Post by LightsOffInside on Dec 30, 2016 4:55:46 GMT -5
Couldn't see a thread like this already and I'm always interested in this question because people have such varying answers and reasons might get only a couple responses mind you, not sure how many star wars fans we have on here! I'll start: 1. Episode V: Empire Strikes Back - Obvious Reasons. Just perfect. 2. Episode VII: The Force Awakens - May seem high to people but I bloody loved every minute of this film, can't stop rewatching 3. Episode IV: A New Hope - Close third, but I gave the edge to FA just now because overall I find it more exciting and enjoyable, plus I don't agree with most of the rehash talk 4. Episode III: Revenge Of The Sith - I really enjoyed this film, more than most people I've discussed it with. 5. Episode VI: Return Of The Jedi - Everything to do with the Ewoks drove me nuts, I get so bored during the battle of Endor, which is why its lower. Otherwise a great movie with an amazing ending. 6. Rogue One - Good film, but found the first half pretty slow and dull, plus the dialogue was pretty awful. However the CGI ressurections and climactic ending were sublime. 7. Episode II: Attack Of The Clones - CGI overload, poor story, Anakin actor was still somewhat a noob at this point 8. Episode I: The Phantom Menance - Loved it when I was young, can't watch it at all now. Who else has an opinion? ps don't feel compelled to include Rogue One if you don't want to since its a spin off.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 30, 2016 9:42:02 GMT -5
V IV VI III / VII
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Post by theyknowwhatimean on Dec 30, 2016 10:12:25 GMT -5
-The Empire Strikes Back
-Star Wars/A New Hope -Revenge of the Sith -Return of the Jedi -The Force Awakens
-Rogue One: A Star Wars Story -Attack of the Clones -The Phantom Menace
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Post by Frank Lee Vulgar on Dec 30, 2016 10:18:10 GMT -5
1. Revenge of the Sith 2. A New Hope 3. Force Awakens 4. Return of the Jedi 5. Phantom Menace . Empire Stikes Back 7. Attack of the Clones
Too early to call Rogue One but definitely top three material. As for TESB, I will never understand how it is not only widely regarded the best Star Wars movie, but also regarded the best with such ease that nobody even explains why anymore. Personally I can't find myself liking the film's narrative structure, the silly stuff like the space slug and the first few Yoda scenes. As far as highlights go, the battle on Hoth is beautiful, but the ending really relies on the Darth Vader plot twist as the duel is actually somewhat forgettable.
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Post by glider on Dec 30, 2016 10:41:52 GMT -5
V IV VI RO III / TFA I II
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Post by Lennon2217 on Dec 30, 2016 11:10:10 GMT -5
Easy...............
The Empire Strikes Back A New Hope Return of The Jedi The Force Awakens Rogue One Phantom Menace Revenge of the Sith Attack of The Clones
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Post by Deleted on Dec 30, 2016 11:11:14 GMT -5
Empire Strikes Back 9.5/10 A New Hope 9/10 -- The Force Awakens 8.5/10 Rogue One 8/10 Revenge of The Sith 7.5/10 Return Of The Jedi 7/10 - - Phantom Menace 5/10
Was there another one? I may have finally succeeded in drinking and smoking that one out of my memory for the most part. Clones was a ponderous, dreary, cringe inducing cgi clusterfuck of John Carter proportions and doesn't deserve to be mentioned next to most of these.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 30, 2016 11:11:37 GMT -5
1. V 2. IV 3. III 4. VI 5. II 6. I 7. VII
I and II could go either way. I probably need to rewatch VII but the first time was a disappointment.
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Post by Frank Lee Vulgar on Dec 30, 2016 11:26:38 GMT -5
So that's it, this is why I love this movie (and like I said in my previous post, it is funny because when I was a kid, it was my least favorite, I just found it boring and only liked the Luke vs Vader duel). Sorry if this is a little confused, I wrote it as I went along. That's a great explanation and I do understand why people would love that movie. I still feel like much of that depends on viewing it as the second ever Star Wars movie - visually, Dagobah and Bespin definitely add to the universe established in ANH, but once you see the entire 7 or 8 movies as a whole, ESB's contribution isn't that great imho. I guess many people who rank ESB as their number one and dislike the prequels already knew and loved the OT when Phantom Menace came out, which is understandable. When I started watching Star Wars, I knew 1,4,5 and 6, and 5 never felt that special to me. And having grown up with TPM I still feel like its good moments are underrated by people who judge it for having Jar Jar and young Anakin.
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Post by RocketMan on Dec 30, 2016 11:45:59 GMT -5
1. Empire strikes back 2. A new hope 3. Return of the jedi 4. Rogue one 5. The force awakens 6. Revenge of the sith
I dont care about the other ones, they get worse and worse everytime i see them. Horrible writing, horrible cgi and horrible characters.
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Post by As You Built The Moon on Dec 30, 2016 11:57:47 GMT -5
ESB ANH TFA RotS RotJ AotC TPM
Have yet to see Rogue One.
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Post by glider on Dec 30, 2016 12:14:25 GMT -5
Easy............... The Empire Strikes Back A New Hope Return of The Jedi Rogue One Phantom Menace Revenge of the Sith Attack of The Clones Interesting, not sure if you accidentally left it out or you simply don't rate TFA. I know you're a big critic of RotS (III) but I want to know what about Phantom Menance that you liked more? I can rewatch RotS but not PM or AOTC.
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Post by The-Ghost-Dancer on Dec 30, 2016 12:58:18 GMT -5
the empire stikes back a new hope the force awakens rogue one return of the jedi
sorry but i dont rate the shower of shit that is the prequels as i find them boring as hell,,the acting is crap the effects now look rubbish,,i decided about 1yr back i was never gonna watch them again,,i find this a total missed opportunity in terms of story telling ,,he started anakin to young the YIPPEEE makes me wanna throw a brick through my telly I DONT LIKE SAND <<<< urrrrrggghhhh cringeworthy and not a good way to get your leg over vaders NNOOOOOOOOOOOO in ROTS ruined the vader scene,,mace windu could of had a little more urgency about him when anakin told him about palpatine but they just mosied on over to a ship,,yoda went from being really mysterious to being a flat out ninja that uses a walking stick when he aint jumpin around like a lunatic chewbacca was shoehorned in for fan service oh and he knew yoda aswell sorry i dont buy that crap han solo told luke he had never heard of the force when chewwie could of easliy said listen mate its real me and yoda were real tight back in the day durin the end of the clone wars why the fuck did they write in ep1 that anakin built 3P0 to help his mom that was utter fuckin shite,,i could sit here all day and post my prequel flaws but cant be arsed cos it would take to long
the following vids are good fun to watch
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Post by The-Ghost-Dancer on Dec 30, 2016 13:02:10 GMT -5
this little kid should be fuckin shittin his pants at alll the carnage going on around the temple shame he delivered the line like a fuckin wet blanket
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Post by Binary Sunset on Dec 30, 2016 13:16:17 GMT -5
ANH ESP FA R1 ROTJ ROTS
TPM AOTC
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Post by Lennon2217 on Dec 30, 2016 13:36:53 GMT -5
Easy............... The Empire Strikes Back A New Hope Return of The Jedi Rogue One Phantom Menace Revenge of the Sith Attack of The Clones Interesting, not sure if you accidentally left it out or you simply don't rate TFA. I know you're a big critic of RotS (III) but I want to know what about Phantom Menance that you liked more? I can rewatch RotS but not PM or AOTC. Ha! Totally a typo. Force Awakes is behind Jedi. Menace had the best villain of the prequels (Maul), it had a great actor in Liam Neeson, it had the best lightsaber duel in the saga, it was shot mostly on real sets and locations compared to Clones and Sith which were 90% CGI. It had more good elements than poor ones. Granted Jar Jar was a train wreck. It even had puppet Yoda on first release.
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Post by RocketMan on Dec 30, 2016 13:48:12 GMT -5
the empire stikes back a new hope the force awakens rogue one return of the jedi sorry but i dont rate the shower of shit that is the prequels as i find them boring as hell,,the acting is crap the effects now look rubbish,,i decided about 1yr back i was never gonna watch them again,,i find this a total missed opportunity in terms of story telling ,,he started anakin to young the YIPPEEE makes me wanna throw a brick through my telly I DONT LIKE SAND <<<< urrrrrggghhhh cringeworthy and not a good way to get your leg over vaders NNOOOOOOOOOOOO in ROTS ruined the vader scene,,mace windu could of had a little more urgency about him when anakin told him about palpatine but they just mosied on over to a ship,,yoda went from being really mysterious to being a flat out ninja that uses a walking stick when he aint jumpin around like a lunatic chewbacca was shoehorned in for fan service oh and he knew yoda aswell sorry i dont buy that crap han solo told luke he had never heard of the force when chewwie could of easliy said listen mate its real me and yoda were real tight back in the day durin the end of the clone wars why the fuck did they write in ep1 that anakin built 3P0 to help his mom that was utter fuckin shite,,i could sit here all day and post my prequel flaws but cant be arsed cos it would take to long the following vids are good fun to watch these reviews are actually better than the movies
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Post by jordan71421 on Dec 31, 2016 14:55:35 GMT -5
Empire A New Hope Jedi Force Awakens Rogue One Phantom Menace Clones Sith
Will never understand how people like Revenge of the Sith, it completely ruins all of the backstory of Vader
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Post by Lennon2217 on Dec 31, 2016 15:16:34 GMT -5
Empire A New Hope Jedi Force Awakens Rogue One Phantom Menace Clones Sith Will never understand how people like Revenge of the Sith, it completely ruins all of the backstory of Vader I agree 100%. His transition from Jedi to Dark Lord was so rushed and undercooked. He basically changes sides at the drop of a dime. He blamed the Jedi for Padme and trusted the Emperor to save her. Well once that happened he should have turned on him too. He was only with him for minutes/hours while he was a Jedi for 15 years. So forced. So rushed. Plus we always heard the stories from the original trilogy of how Vader hunted down and destroyed the Jedi. Well in Sith we don't really see that at all. Turns out the dumb clone troopers did most of the killing and Anakin mostly killed 8 year olds. Weak dude, fucking weak. Only in Rogue One did we FINALLY see Darth Vader in ass kicking fashion. Bravo Gareth. Don't even get me started with the very end when Padme dies giving birth. Moon planet space station? What is this 2001: Space Odyssey? Looked so cheesy and not Star Wars. One of Lucas' biggest flaws of the prequels was having Anakin also be from Tatoonie. That just doesn't make sense and wasn't needed in the grand arc of the saga because once Episode III concluded it would make ZERO sense for Obi-Wan to hide himself and Luke on Vader's home planet and go by....Luke SKYWALKER and BEN Kenobi. Nice hide out job! So fucking dumb. Anakin could have been from anywhere. Making him from Tatoonie sounds cute but really is poorly executed.
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Post by glider on Dec 31, 2016 21:52:42 GMT -5
I agree about the Tatooine situation: George's whole "poetry" stigma he attached to the prequels makes sense when you watch the films, but also points out flaws in the concept and lacks common sense.
One thing I'll always takeaway from the prequels is expanding the lore, for the better with new species and planets and also ancient concepts of the sith (rule of two) and jedi (virgences). The midichlorians were a mistake and completely removed the philosophical identity of the force. Don't get me started on the clones. I don't have the problem with the clone army concept, and thought it was original and interesting, but why retcon Boba Fett's character background (while it existed, was vague but intriguing) and make his "father" clone zero? I understand that Jedi is the laziest written film of the OT, and George basically tossed Boba Fett's character away when he had SO much potential to be a badass on screen.
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Post by Lennon2217 on Jan 1, 2017 9:42:17 GMT -5
I agree about the Tatooine situation: George's whole "poetry" stigma he attached to the prequels makes sense when you watch the films, but also points out flaws in the concept and lacks common sense. One thing I'll always takeaway from the prequels is expanding the lore, for the better with new species and planets and also ancient concepts of the sith (rule of two) and jedi (virgences). The midichlorians were a mistake and completely removed the philosophical identity of the force. Don't get me started on the clones. I don't have the problem with the clone army concept, and thought it was original and interesting, but why retcon Boba Fett's character background (while it existed, was vague but intriguing) and make his "father" clone zero? I understand that Jedi is the laziest written film of the OT, and George basically tossed Boba Fett's character away when he had SO much potential to be a badass on screen. But was it really expanded in a good manner? The worlds and new species Lucas showed us came off lame and kiddy. Outside Phantom Menace which was shot on locations in England forests, Tunisia and Italy, most of the other worlds in Clones and Sith were 100% CGI. Nothing organic or real to get an emotional response. Some of the creature he came up with flat out sucked. Jar Jar and the GunGuns. Watto. The Trade Federation dudes. The flying bugs who built the Death Star (Lame!). That weird guy that Obi Wan meets in the diner in Clones. Serious what the fuck is that?!?!?!?!?!?!!? I always thought the rule of 2 was stupid. There were a 1,000 Jedi and they were supposed to fear 2 Sith guys? Gimme a break. Just doesn't work for me. Not enough to defeat Jedi. Shit, Maul died in 20 min of film time and the Emperor was going to die to Mace Windu if Anakin didn't fuck shit up. They needed stupid clone to beat the Jedi.
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Post by glider on Jan 1, 2017 17:49:28 GMT -5
I agree about the Tatooine situation: George's whole "poetry" stigma he attached to the prequels makes sense when you watch the films, but also points out flaws in the concept and lacks common sense. One thing I'll always takeaway from the prequels is expanding the lore, for the better with new species and planets and also ancient concepts of the sith (rule of two) and jedi (virgences). The midichlorians were a mistake and completely removed the philosophical identity of the force. Don't get me started on the clones. I don't have the problem with the clone army concept, and thought it was original and interesting, but why retcon Boba Fett's character background (while it existed, was vague but intriguing) and make his "father" clone zero? I understand that Jedi is the laziest written film of the OT, and George basically tossed Boba Fett's character away when he had SO much potential to be a badass on screen. But was it really expanded in a good manner? The worlds and new species Lucas showed us came off lame and kiddy. Outside Phantom Menace which was shot on locations in England forests, Tunisia and Italy, most of the other worlds in Clones and Sith were 100% CGI. Nothing organic or real to get an emotional response. Some of the creature he came up with flat out sucked. Jar Jar and the GunGuns. Watto. The Trade Federation dudes. The flying bugs who built the Death Star (Lame!). That weird guy that Obi Wan meets in the diner in Clones. Serious what the fuck is that?!?!?!?!?!?!!? I always thought the rule of 2 was stupid. There were a 1,000 Jedi and they were supposed to fear 2 Sith guys? Gimme a break. Just doesn't work for me. Not enough to defeat Jedi. Shit, Maul died in 20 min of film time and the Emperor was going to die to Mace Windu if Anakin didn't fuck shit up. They needed stupid clone to beat the Jedi. I believe the idea of the rule of two was centered on the belief that the master and apprentice were strong enough to defeat all the jedi. Anakin was the chosen one to bring balance to the force, but was manipulated and used his hidden potential to wipe out all the jedi. Problem is the execution. The whole political conspiracy involving the Clone Wars being a big sham and fake war, only for Palpatine to exactly know when Anakin would find out he was Sidious, let Windu know, and set the plans in motion to take down all the jedi (via order 66), was incredibly sloppy and bad writing by Lucas. The Original Trilogy set up the idea that Vader and Sidious were so strong and the prophetic model of the rule of two (in which they took down all the jedi), and we never really know how they did it. George and Order 66, while politically brillant, felt cheap to me. Not entirely sure why George decided to just hastily come up with a way for us to figure out how the jedi were exterminated. I agree that Episode 3 made Anakin seem very weak when it came to doing the dark deeds. The heroic Jedi Knight who was a badass as he was set up to be in the OT isn't really visible in the films, but only the Clone Wars series. Very dissapointing. As for basically everything non-human in the prequels being CGI, that was George just shoving his ILM movie magic down our throats. I'm talking about the introduction of new species, not really how they looked. Of course Jar Jar was a poorly directed character (not his looks, which are unique, just the acting and whatnot). But let's not discount characters like Maz Kanata in The Force Awakens. Wtf was that? And why does she happen to have Anakin/Luke's lightsaber? Her character served no point. Also, can someone tell me why JJ decided to make Jakku a Tatooine clone and not the galactic junkyard planet as originally conceptualized?
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Post by Lennon2217 on Jan 1, 2017 22:01:50 GMT -5
But was it really expanded in a good manner? The worlds and new species Lucas showed us came off lame and kiddy. Outside Phantom Menace which was shot on locations in England forests, Tunisia and Italy, most of the other worlds in Clones and Sith were 100% CGI. Nothing organic or real to get an emotional response. Some of the creature he came up with flat out sucked. Jar Jar and the GunGuns. Watto. The Trade Federation dudes. The flying bugs who built the Death Star (Lame!). That weird guy that Obi Wan meets in the diner in Clones. Serious what the fuck is that?!?!?!?!?!?!!? I always thought the rule of 2 was stupid. There were a 1,000 Jedi and they were supposed to fear 2 Sith guys? Gimme a break. Just doesn't work for me. Not enough to defeat Jedi. Shit, Maul died in 20 min of film time and the Emperor was going to die to Mace Windu if Anakin didn't fuck shit up. They needed stupid clone to beat the Jedi. I believe the idea of the rule of two was centered on the belief that the master and apprentice were strong enough to defeat all the jedi. Anakin was the chosen one to bring balance to the force, but was manipulated and used his hidden potential to wipe out all the jedi. Problem is the execution. The whole political conspiracy involving the Clone Wars being a big sham and fake war, only for Palpatine to exactly know when Anakin would find out he was Sidious, let Windu know, and set the plans in motion to take down all the jedi (via order 66), was incredibly sloppy and bad writing by Lucas. The Original Trilogy set up the idea that Vader and Sidious were so strong and the prophetic model of the rule of two (in which they took down all the jedi), and we never really know how they did it. George and Order 66, while politically brillant, felt cheap to me. Not entirely sure why George decided to just hastily come up with a way for us to figure out how the jedi were exterminated. I agree that Episode 3 made Anakin seem very weak when it came to doing the dark deeds. The heroic Jedi Knight who was a badass as he was set up to be in the OT isn't really visible in the films, but only the Clone Wars series. Very dissapointing. As for basically everything non-human in the prequels being CGI, that was George just shoving his ILM movie magic down our throats. I'm talking about the introduction of new species, not really how they looked. Of course Jar Jar was a poorly directed character (not his looks, which are unique, just the acting and whatnot). But let's not discount characters like Maz Kanata in The Force Awakens. Wtf was that? And why does she happen to have Anakin/Luke's lightsaber? Her character served no point. Also, can someone tell me why JJ decided to make Jakku a Tatooine clone and not the galactic junkyard planet as originally conceptualized? Here is what I never got. The force and galaxy seemed pretty balanced before Qui-Gon discovered Anakin on Tatoonie. If the biggest problem the Republic had to deal with was a trade blockade on Naboo then times were a boomin! Qui-Gon just ended up mucking it all up for everyone. Maz is still an on going character. She originally was going to be a puppet but they couldn't nail it in time. Same with Snoke although he is now a Puppet for Episode 8. A good thing! We will find out more about that lightsaber in the next movie for sure.
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