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Post by sgtpeppr on Jun 28, 2016 9:46:19 GMT -5
When was the last time england was good in a major tournament ? Maybe Euro 1996, and even then... Some serious questions need to be asked... Euro 1996 World Cup 1998 World Cup 2002 Those 3 were good, although the 'Golden Generation' underperformed. What I would do for that squad now, though. Q/F and round of 16 is good?! '96 was the best england team since '66, but id be hard pressed to call them good. its always just hype...
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Post by Frank Lee Vulgar on Jun 28, 2016 13:23:44 GMT -5
As a somewhat neutral bystander, the English team around 2004-2006 always looked really scary. You had a midfield of Beckham, Lampard and Gerrard all in their prime, strikers like Owen and Rooney, plus Terry, Cole, Scholes... back then I always expected that team to win big, and they always fell a little short.
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Post by thomaslivesforever on Jun 28, 2016 17:16:30 GMT -5
Euro 1996 World Cup 1998 World Cup 2002 Those 3 were good, although the 'Golden Generation' underperformed. What I would do for that squad now, though. Q/F and round of 16 is good?! '96 was the best england team since '66, but id be hard pressed to call them good. its always just hype... We were a good team in all those years Nigel listed. There was no shame in going out to the teams we did.
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Post by Manualex on Jun 28, 2016 17:37:51 GMT -5
Q/F and round of 16 is good?! '96 was the best england team since '66, but id be hard pressed to call them good. its always just hype... We were a good team in all those years Nigel listed. There was no shame in going out to the teams we did. The other good england tourment were 1986 & 1990
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Post by sgtpeppr on Jun 28, 2016 18:23:14 GMT -5
why not add '94 to the tally as long as we're just listing years. this is part of the problem really. england believing their own hype. none of those years listed were good teams and most of the great players in them were simply over-rated. just my opinions obviously...
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Post by Beady’s Here Now on Jun 28, 2016 19:18:52 GMT -5
why not add '94 to the tally as long as we're just listing years. this is part of the problem really. england believing their own hype. none of those years listed were good teams and most of the great players in them were simply over-rated. just my opinions obviously... Books like Soccernomics outline that England actually perform as it should.
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Post by sgtpeppr on Jun 28, 2016 23:52:21 GMT -5
why not add '94 to the tally as long as we're just listing years. this is part of the problem really. england believing their own hype. none of those years listed were good teams and most of the great players in them were simply over-rated. just my opinions obviously... Books like Soccernomics outline that England actually perform as it should. hardly. its not about population size. its about what % of that population is actually interested and how much money that interest generates. countries of similar size and/or interest always outperform the english. italy for example? france? even those losers the dutch... this is the same book that tells us australia will win a world cup...nope.
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Post by globe on Jun 29, 2016 8:32:20 GMT -5
To be fair to England, some of those players are only on 150K a week. Give them a break eh. I was obviously only being facetious saying this, however I was reading today that Jack Wilshire is reported to be worth about £27 million quid. He's played just over 100 games in 8 years. Mental.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 30, 2016 14:30:09 GMT -5
10 years ago Finland was in the same qualification group with Portugal and Poland. From 4 games we got one win and 3 draws. Look at us now...
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Post by Deleted on Jun 30, 2016 14:41:27 GMT -5
I can't stand Cristiano. What a bellend !
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Post by carlober on Jun 30, 2016 16:26:14 GMT -5
I can't stand Cristiano. What a bellend ! His ego is much bigger than is talent. And he is very talented. I can't stand him at all, even seeing his face on TV irritates me.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 30, 2016 16:50:25 GMT -5
Winning 1 match (!) and going into the Semi finals. Hold up of the century !
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Post by MG on Jun 30, 2016 17:58:58 GMT -5
Winning 1 match (!) and going into the Semi finals. Hold up of the century ! Haven't lead after 90 mins in any game so far!
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Post by Frank Lee Vulgar on Jun 30, 2016 18:00:02 GMT -5
Winning 1 match (!) and going into the Semi finals. Hold up of the century ! Yet to win a game after 90 minutes. Althoughm tbf, Poland went to penalties two times in a row too.
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Post by Beady’s Here Now on Jun 30, 2016 18:01:43 GMT -5
Portugal-Germany Final. Calling it now.
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Post by sgtpeppr on Jun 30, 2016 23:43:37 GMT -5
Portugal-Germany Final. Calling it now. called it on the first page...
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Post by arthurmorgan on Jul 1, 2016 4:21:41 GMT -5
Do you think that future euros will have six groups again? I haven't heard anything good about this new idea. Of course we get more matches but the whole tournament lacks some excitement in my opinion.
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Post by sgtpeppr on Jul 1, 2016 5:00:26 GMT -5
i cant see them cutting down on teams. i think theyll stick with this format 'til they decide to expand to 32 teams...
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Post by draper on Jul 1, 2016 5:40:26 GMT -5
Hoping for a Belgian win against Wales tonight. Missing two defenders though (Vertonghen & Vermaelen) so will probably be a tough one... Go Hazard !
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Post by arthurmorgan on Jul 1, 2016 9:20:24 GMT -5
i cant see them cutting down on teams. i think theyll stick with this format 'til they decide to expand to 32 teams... I think you're right. I wouldn't mind 8 groups but this year the group stage was rather pointless if you ask me
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Post by Deleted on Jul 1, 2016 14:59:18 GMT -5
I've liked this first half. I have sympathy for both teams, so I don't mind which one will get into the semi-finals as long as they beat Portugal !
(And no, I'm not a Portugal hater, but fuck, that process, that team...)
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Post by oasisserbia on Jul 1, 2016 15:54:29 GMT -5
That was 3 and 4 years ago. Well done Wales, someone keeps on working and someone just keep going in circles.
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Post by batfink30 on Jul 1, 2016 16:00:51 GMT -5
Unbelievable from Wales! Amazing.
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Post by matt on Jul 1, 2016 16:27:40 GMT -5
Speechless. Absolutely speechless.
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Post by welshylad on Jul 1, 2016 16:38:09 GMT -5
Another £120 for me I never bet on anything but ive made £215 in the last week or so
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