|
Post by sy on Aug 2, 2015 13:26:16 GMT -5
Just wondering what tuning Noel uses on his acoustics, are they tuned standard A440 or are they tuned slightly different? Im finding that when I tune to A440 standard and place capo on 2nd fret for say If I Had A Gun it sounds slightly off. Could this be intonation aswell?
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Aug 2, 2015 14:08:29 GMT -5
I'm fairly certain "If I Had A Gun..." is standard 440 tuning. I often find that intonation can be an issue, especially with capo on the second fret for some reason.
Songs like Slide Away, Don't Look Back In Anger, Some Might Say are all tuned slightly higher than normal (or the master was just slightly sped up).
|
|
|
Post by novascotialad on Aug 2, 2015 17:18:06 GMT -5
Remember to always fit the capo where you want it Then tune up. xX
|
|
|
Post by nahuel89p on Aug 2, 2015 17:59:37 GMT -5
I think Sad Song is sped up, I remember the WTF feeling after trying to play guitar along the track for the first time.
Funny thing is, you can change the pitch of any audio track by software, thus compensating any offset in the pitch on occasion of a change in the tempo. I am not sure however whether this procedure inevitably involves quality loss or not. I think there must be some quality loss, even more in Noel's tracks, so typically lacking in dynamic range..
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Aug 2, 2015 18:06:39 GMT -5
I think Sad Song is sped up, I remember the WTF feeling after trying to play guitar along the track for the first time. Funny thing is, you can change the pitch of any audio track by software, thus compensating any offset in the pitch on occasion of a change in the tempo. I am not sure however whether this procedure inevitably involves quality loss or not. I think there must be some quality loss, even more in Noel's tracks, so typically lacking in dynamic range.. If you change the pitch relevant to the tempo, there's no quality loss whatsoever. If you change one without the other, then it is detrimental to the quality of the audio, although changing it at the small levels we're talking about here, it shouldn't be that noticeable. I always thought Sad Song was tuned down slightly from A minor.
|
|
|
Post by frjdoasis on Aug 2, 2015 18:27:54 GMT -5
|
|
|
Post by Manualex on Aug 3, 2015 22:27:35 GMT -5
I'm fairly certain "If I Had A Gun..." is standard 440 tuning. I often find that intonation can be an issue, especially with capo on the second fret for some reason. Songs like Slide Away, Don't Look Back In Anger, Some Might Say are all tuned slightly higher than normal (or the master was just slightly sped up). Live Forever and Champagne Supernova as well. I wonder if we could make a list of the songs that were and werent speed up. I know that Supersonic and Wonderwall weren't speed up. DLBIA A451 SMS A450 LF A449 CS A443 That makes a pain in the ass to play along the studio versions of these songs.
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Aug 17, 2015 7:42:44 GMT -5
Step Out is tuned up
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Aug 17, 2015 12:55:58 GMT -5
I think Sad Song is sped up, I remember the WTF feeling after trying to play guitar along the track for the first time. Funny thing is, you can change the pitch of any audio track by software, thus compensating any offset in the pitch on occasion of a change in the tempo. I am not sure however whether this procedure inevitably involves quality loss or not. I think there must be some quality loss, even more in Noel's tracks, so typically lacking in dynamic range.. It depends on the software you are using more than anything. Audacity and other cheap or freeware software will notably decrease the quality of the audio even if you've only changed the pitch by a semtione whereas better software (I use REAPER, completely free DAW,very very good) can change it with very minimal side effects.
|
|
|
Post by World71R on Aug 17, 2015 13:38:06 GMT -5
I think that's due to the varispeed trick that Owen Morris and Noel used in the studio to make the tempo a little faster to hide some of the errors, and also polish up any pitchiness that may have been in Liam's voice, or Noel's voice, especially around this time.
|
|
|
Post by LDD- Angelic Child on Oct 25, 2015 11:04:37 GMT -5
With regards to the earlier albums, there is no special formula. They just tuned the guitars to themselves most of the time, none of it is perfect.
|
|
|
Post by andymorris on Oct 26, 2015 10:01:54 GMT -5
Slide Away, Don't Look Back In Anger, Some Might Say and a few other tunes are sped up on the record, the most noticeable one being DLBIA, which is probably in between standard tuning and god's perfect tuning.
Noel tends to play his acoustic songs live on capo 2 nowadays, although with completely different chords. But start with G or Em and figure the rest, is logical when you transpose the chords, and you're good to go with most of these songs.
|
|
|
Post by monobrau on Nov 2, 2015 21:04:02 GMT -5
Going Nowhere it's also tuned between regular tuning and # half tune up, really tricky to play right.
The main question would be if the vocals were recorded with the standard tuning on, or the instrumental used to record the vocals was already on the final altered tuning?
|
|
|
Post by NYR on Nov 3, 2015 23:36:34 GMT -5
Some of the previous responses are correct. He is tuned in A440, but the difference in pitch is due to the speed of the recordings being sped up or slowed down.
|
|