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Post by theyknowwhatimean on Jun 21, 2015 7:18:44 GMT -5
How is it possible that Liam "voice of a generation" Gallagher still sings worse than a man in his 70s despite not being on tour? So it clearly wasn't the strains of touring that caused his voice to be shit. It's his lifestyle. He needs to sort that out if he wants to get back to the top. Oh come now, do we REALLY have to talk about this yet again?... Liam's voice has declined so spectacularly...more so than perhaps any other singers voice ever has before...because on top of alcohol abuse, smoking cigarettes and taking coke, he has strained his vocal cords intensely over the years through constant shouting, and craning his neck back to sing. Liam was told by a doctor in 96, when he first started to develop vocal difficulties, that he shouldn't sing that way, but the advise went unheeded... He can't just pack in the booze and coke and other substances and be cured like some inane parable from the bible, his voice has been ruined by the combined effects of a number of factors, and it will never recover. I thought this was common knowledge...
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Post by Mean Mrs. Mustard on Jun 21, 2015 9:10:51 GMT -5
I don't think that's what he means. Not his lifestyle now, but his lifestyle over the years. Smoking, drinking and coke definitely have had an influence on his voice through the years (and the way he stands too), but now it's too late.
It's a miracle he doesn't have arthritis or Osteoarthritis in his neck/back yet!
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Post by theyknowwhatimean on Jun 21, 2015 9:23:11 GMT -5
I don't think that's what he means. Not his lifestyle now, but his lifestyle over the years. "It's his lifestyle. He needs to sort that out..." How could Liam 'sort out' the lifestyle he led in the past?
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Post by Mean Mrs. Mustard on Jun 21, 2015 9:47:25 GMT -5
Oh yeah, read over that. No idea. The damage has been done already.
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Post by leak4ever on Jun 21, 2015 13:09:43 GMT -5
How is it possible that Liam "voice of a generation" Gallagher still sings worse than a man in his 70s despite not being on tour? So it clearly wasn't the strains of touring that caused his voice to be shit. It's his lifestyle. He needs to sort that out if he wants to get back to the top. Oh come now, do we REALLY have to talk about this yet again?... Liam's voice has declined so spectacularly...more so than perhaps any other singers voice ever has before...because on top of alcohol abuse, smoking cigarettes and taking coke, he has strained his vocal cords intensely over the years through constant shouting, and craning his neck back to sing. Liam was told by a doctor in 96, when he first started to develop vocal difficulties, that he shouldn't sing that way, but the advise went unheeded... He can't just pack in the booze and coke and other substances and be cured like some inane parable from the bible, his voice has been ruined by the combined effects of a number of factors, and it will never recover. I thought this was common knowledge... So are you telling me that this is the best Liam's vocals will ever be again, forever?
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Post by theyknowwhatimean on Jun 21, 2015 13:38:42 GMT -5
Oh come now, do we REALLY have to talk about this yet again?... Liam's voice has declined so spectacularly...more so than perhaps any other singers voice ever has before...because on top of alcohol abuse, smoking cigarettes and taking coke, he has strained his vocal cords intensely over the years through constant shouting, and craning his neck back to sing. Liam was told by a doctor in 96, when he first started to develop vocal difficulties, that he shouldn't sing that way, but the advise went unheeded... He can't just pack in the booze and coke and other substances and be cured like some inane parable from the bible, his voice has been ruined by the combined effects of a number of factors, and it will never recover. I thought this was common knowledge... So are you telling me that this is the best Liam's vocals will ever be again, forever? Pretty much.
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Post by jaq515 on Jun 21, 2015 14:13:50 GMT -5
So are you telling me that this is the best Liam's vocals will ever be again, forever? Pretty much. and as the only 2 times Liam's sang 'liam style' publically in the last 15 months (most looking like the next 15 months) was for a charity event, and 1/2 a song for a nostalgia fest Not sure thats a crime, people bought tickets to see the charity event and people watched the show for it too, it did the job. Most people thought both performaces were fine? Obv liams voice is shot to pieces and any person who 'actually' knows about singing (not a forum 'know it all') knows what theyknowwhatimean is saying is correct and the main reason he voice is destroyed is because of how he sung in the 90's, stance, style etc. its better to have love and lost etc...
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Post by matt on Jun 21, 2015 15:00:41 GMT -5
He's still got it in the studio though. I've never heard anything too disconcerting about his vocals on an album (yeah okay Heathen Chemistry ain't that great a performance but he's still listenable), which is why he needs to get on and record something.
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Post by jaq515 on Jun 21, 2015 15:06:39 GMT -5
He's still got it in the studio though. I've never heard anything too disconcerting about his vocals on an album (yeah okay Heathen Chemistry ain't that great a performance but he's still listenable), which is why he needs to get on and record something. and when he was doing acoustic / more 'singing' in BE era the start anew stuff etc was good tbh. Im trying to say (or agree with) liam singing liam like he was could isn't gonna happen again as its physically impossible to happen. Im quite happy with whats left tbh.. beady eye did some fantastic gigs, some times the the sum us greater than the parts etc..
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Post by Mean Mrs. Mustard on Jun 21, 2015 15:19:10 GMT -5
He's still got it in the studio though. I've never heard anything too disconcerting about his vocals on an album (yeah okay Heathen Chemistry ain't that great a performance but he's still listenable), which is why he needs to get on and record something. *cough*DBTT, Love Like A Bomb especially*cough* Anyone can sound great in a studio. If you tell me which buttons to press and which switches to use, I can sound like Beyoncé
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Post by matt on Jun 21, 2015 15:45:25 GMT -5
He's still got it in the studio though. I've never heard anything too disconcerting about his vocals on an album (yeah okay Heathen Chemistry ain't that great a performance but he's still listenable), which is why he needs to get on and record something. *cough*DBTT, Love Like A Bomb especially*cough* Anyone can sound great in a studio. If you tell me which buttons to press and which switches to use, I can sound like Beyoncé I actually don't think it's studio trickery that make his voice sound good - what you hear most of the time isn't gravely or shouty which which can typify his live gigs, but in the studio he isn't having to shout over massive sound systems so we get to hear the best of him.
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Post by glider on Jun 21, 2015 23:02:47 GMT -5
Another thread gone to hell by arguing about Liam's voice.
Look, I thought his voice was great, and way better than how it sounds back on late touring with Oasis and Beady Eye (even his voice sounded great late on the BE tour). Liam's 90s vocals will never come back again, that's the cold, honest truth. The man is 42, has been through alot, and over many tours, album recordings, drugs, alcohol, fights etc. all of it has take their toll on him.
If you think his voice is still terrible, fine, but I'd have his 2015 vocals over this one anyday. Cheers.
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Post by standbymoi on Jun 22, 2015 4:57:43 GMT -5
Wow, his voice was bad here, painful even. And I've always been a bigger fan of Liam than Noel. You can almost hear Noel's brain ticking thinking *I'm supposed to be in one of the biggest bands in the world here and my singer can't sing anymore. Time to jump ship and go solo, I've been putting it off for so long now, just can't be arsed being a frontman, but it's gotta be done.*
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Post by theyknowwhatimean on Jun 22, 2015 5:15:50 GMT -5
He's still got it in the studio though. I've never heard anything too disconcerting about his vocals on an album (yeah okay Heathen Chemistry ain't that great a performance but he's still listenable), which is why he needs to get on and record something. *cough*DBTT, Love Like A Bomb especially*cough* Anyone can sound great in a studio. If you tell me which buttons to press and which switches to use, I can sound like Beyoncé Maybe I'd need to listen to Love Like A Bomb again, but ive never thought he sounded that bad on that one. There was only Won't Let You Down from that year that's absolutely woeful. On the flip side of course, you've got Lyla and Turn Up The Sun, where Liam absolutely kills it - especially on the latter, where his snarling vocals manage to turn an average song into a good one, showing a prowess we'd not seen from him since the nineties, when he could turn a run-of-the-mill Noel Gallagher b-side into a stone cold classic.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 22, 2015 13:46:07 GMT -5
Is anyone else bored to death of talking in the same recycled cycles about Liam?
His voice, through an improvement on the not so distant past, is still nothing compared to what he used to be. It is clear, though, that with the aid of a studio and a more professional approach to singing and music he is still capable of being a good vocalist. His writing is usually immature and often ridiculous with lyrics being a massive weak point - however he has displayed an ear for melody that could result in some good songs if developed attentively. Sadly he no longer looks cool and we can all agree he needs to sort his hair out. With Beady Eye, we can see that not every thing he ever does without Noel (though he is clearly the less talented and fated to always be the less successful of the two brothers) will be a disaster, and although albums as a whole were dire, many good songs were produced. Saying this, it exposed some obvious weaknesses such as lyrics, blandness, and lack of originality. On the other hand it also showed many ideas that will no doubt be necessary for any successful foray into music for Liam in the future. Clearly he will have to use inventive and well thought out production and more experimental instrumentation to make a record that stands up to more than a few listens, and to highlight the melodies he is capable of writing. Having multiple collaborations would also not be a bad idea as lyrics and production could be handled elsewhere - most likely leading to a higher quality of music. Overall although we know Liam's best days are behind him in almost all regards, he remains a charismatic singer capable of making good records if he handles himself and his music well.
Now can we leave this for a while?
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Post by leak4ever on Jun 22, 2015 14:55:43 GMT -5
*cough*DBTT, Love Like A Bomb especially*cough* Anyone can sound great in a studio. If you tell me which buttons to press and which switches to use, I can sound like Beyoncé Maybe I'd need to listen to Love Like A Bomb again, but ive never thought he sounded that bad on that one. There was only Won't Let You Down from that year that's absolutely woeful. On the flip side of course, you've got Lyla and Turn Up The Sun, where Liam absolutely kills it - especially on the latter, where his snarling vocals manage to turn an average song into a good one, showing a prowess we'd not seen from him since the nineties, when he could turn a run-of-the-mill Noel Gallagher b-side into a stone cold classic. As has been pointed out, sounding good in the studio isn't that hard, with all the gadgets at their disposal. In the 90's, the difference between Liam on record and Liam live was marginal. He often sounded better live even. From HC onwards however, the difference has been ginormous. Lyla for example. Sounds terrific on record. Live? Deplorable. If Liam's vocals are really beyond repair, one has to wonder; why do we want a reunion anyway? All it'll do is serve to remind us why we all wanted a Noel solo record in the first place.
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Post by Mean Mrs. Mustard on Jun 22, 2015 15:02:33 GMT -5
Love how some of you say they're bored and tired of the subject, and then proceed to write a long post on the subject
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Post by theyknowwhatimean on Jun 22, 2015 15:53:09 GMT -5
Maybe I'd need to listen to Love Like A Bomb again, but ive never thought he sounded that bad on that one. There was only Won't Let You Down from that year that's absolutely woeful. On the flip side of course, you've got Lyla and Turn Up The Sun, where Liam absolutely kills it - especially on the latter, where his snarling vocals manage to turn an average song into a good one, showing a prowess we'd not seen from him since the nineties, when he could turn a run-of-the-mill Noel Gallagher b-side into a stone cold classic. As has been pointed out, sounding good in the studio isn't that hard, with all the gadgets at their disposal. In the 90's, the difference between Liam on record and Liam live was marginal. He often sounded better live even. From HC onwards however, the difference has been ginormous. Lyla for example. Sounds terrific on record. Live? Deplorable. If Liam's vocals are really beyond repair, one has to wonder; why do we want a reunion anyway? All it'll do is serve to remind us why we all wanted a Noel solo record in the first place. I'm pretty sure I've said all of the above before now, barring the reunion part which I'm definitely sure I've NOT claimed to want. I've said for a year now that I think (and hope) that Liam will never release any music again. What point are you making exactly?
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Post by liamgallagher1992 on Jun 23, 2015 20:32:44 GMT -5
All I wanna know is why a performance Chris Evans inrrouduced as a proper YouTube moment has been banned off YouTube.
Talk about fucking irony
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Post by sammygreen on Jun 24, 2015 2:29:17 GMT -5
"liams gotten fatter" "liams voice is shit" "i dont like liams hair/clothes" etc wah wah wah fucking boring, if ppl on here wanna bad mouth liam, so much why not fuck off and create a we hate oasis forum, this meant to be a fansite for fucks sake
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Post by batfink30 on Jun 24, 2015 3:21:10 GMT -5
Wow, his voice was bad here, painful even. And I've always been a bigger fan of Liam than Noel. You can almost hear Noel's brain ticking thinking *I'm supposed to be in one of the biggest bands in the world here and my singer can't sing anymore. Time to jump ship and go solo, I've been putting it off for so long now, just can't be arsed being a frontman, but it's gotta be done.* Nah, Noels thinking "now,what do I have as my Instargram name?"
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Post by leak4ever on Jun 24, 2015 4:29:38 GMT -5
As has been pointed out, sounding good in the studio isn't that hard, with all the gadgets at their disposal. In the 90's, the difference between Liam on record and Liam live was marginal. He often sounded better live even. From HC onwards however, the difference has been ginormous. Lyla for example. Sounds terrific on record. Live? Deplorable. If Liam's vocals are really beyond repair, one has to wonder; why do we want a reunion anyway? All it'll do is serve to remind us why we all wanted a Noel solo record in the first place. I'm pretty sure I've said all of the above before now, barring the reunion part which I'm definitely sure I've NOT claimed to want. I've said for a year now that I think (and hope) that Liam will never release any music again. What point are you making exactly? Fair play to you for admitting that.
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