Banksy
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Post by Banksy on Mar 2, 2015 14:53:07 GMT -5
Fair enough. God knows why the week after the Brits is a preferred release date for an album with all the boosts albums and artists who win and perform get??? Also on the awards front it's literally a calendar year until the Brits etc. again awards don't mean much but it would be nice. In terms of the release date compared to the Brits. Someone had said that the Brits is placed where it is in the year to start supporting a bolster in the music sales again after a 2 month lull post Christmas. A new Noel release can more than hold it's own against sales boosts on Brits award winners albums so that isn't an issue. I don't know for sure. But seems like Noel's label is aiming for releasing at the beginning of big record buying times. March when the sales of music are climbing post award season and before the season for big summer releases then the festivals to maintain sales. And October for a # 1 then try to hold on for the big sales before Christmas. From what I remember HFB stabilized it's sales around festival season quite well. Makes sense.
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Post by lamboasis on Mar 2, 2015 15:03:32 GMT -5
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Post by The Invisible Sun on Mar 2, 2015 15:45:12 GMT -5
There are quite a bit of average reviews coming out. Maybe the critics don't like when Noel doesn't play it safe on a record.
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Banksy
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Post by Banksy on Mar 2, 2015 16:04:37 GMT -5
There are quite a bit of average reviews coming out. Maybe the critics don't like when Noel doesn't play it safe on a record. Really? I think the vast majority are far more positive from what I have seen. We really do have to take into account that reviews and reviewers tend to air on the side of caution with artists such as Noel who are no longer considered hip, the industry revolves in cycles and its a gamble for so called current publications who's demographic is NOT a 47 year old 25 year veteran to give too much to a man who is very vocal against the acts they use to sell copies. I honestly think that is the reason for the amount of reviews that read as 5/5s or 9/10s but score a mark or two lower. They are rating/describeing it as a success but reining it in on actual scores so they are basically sitting on the fence/playing it safe.
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Post by The Invisible Sun on Mar 2, 2015 16:16:03 GMT -5
There are quite a bit of average reviews coming out. Maybe the critics don't like when Noel doesn't play it safe on a record. Really? I think the vast majority are far more positive from what I have seen. We really do have to take into account that reviews and reviewers tend to air on the side of caution with artists such as Noel who are no longer considered hip, the industry revolves in cycles and its a gamble for so called current publications who's demographic is NOT a 47 year old 25 year veteran to give too much to a man who is very vocal against the acts they use to sell copies. I honestly think that is the reason for the amount of reviews that read as 5/5s or 9/10s but score a mark or two lower. They are rating/describeing it as a success but reining it in on actual scores so they are basically sitting on the fence/playing it safe. Probably the case, because this album is nothing less than a 4/5!
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Post by AubreyOasis on Mar 2, 2015 18:40:51 GMT -5
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Post by summersox on Mar 2, 2015 20:02:23 GMT -5
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Post by XTRMNTRSCREAM on Mar 2, 2015 20:22:33 GMT -5
There are quite a bit of average reviews coming out. Maybe the critics don't like when Noel doesn't play it safe on a record. That's a bingo. Everyone knows he has such an ear for melody, and that he can write songs like dying of the light in his sleep. What they want to see him do is channel his ability for melody with more experimentation. There is a reason the Right Stuff has been universally praised.
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Post by therobohump on Mar 2, 2015 20:43:07 GMT -5
Lots of bad reviews coming in now. It only has a 67 on Metacritic, which is fairly poor. The original HFB album has a 69.
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Post by durk on Mar 2, 2015 20:46:32 GMT -5
A lot of reviews I've read from UK newspapers and some sites like DIY seem downright bitter.
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Post by zgb on Mar 2, 2015 22:03:34 GMT -5
Lots of bad reviews coming in now. It only has a 67 on Metacritic, which is fairly poor. The original HFB album has a 69. well, they all can fuck off. fucking hippies and hipsters...
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Post by spaneli on Mar 2, 2015 22:34:19 GMT -5
Lots of bad reviews coming in now. It only has a 67 on Metacritic, which is fairly poor. The original HFB album has a 69. It still might be fine. Rolling Stone hasn't been included, which was a good review for him and SPIN should give him a good enough review to push his average up a bit.
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Post by Banksy on Mar 3, 2015 2:07:46 GMT -5
Lots of bad reviews coming in now. It only has a 67 on Metacritic, which is fairly poor. The original HFB album has a 69. Lots? Where are these bad reviews Hump? I am as keen to see these as I am the good. You say lots but you reference one score.
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Post by tonethestone1 on Mar 3, 2015 2:41:14 GMT -5
Lots of bad reviews coming in now. It only has a 67 on Metacritic, which is fairly poor. The original HFB album has a 69. Lots? Where are these bad reviews Hump? I am as keen to see these as I am the good. You say lots but you reference one score. Was thinking that myself, generally reviews have been good to great, mainly great from respected reviewers. Metacritic is bs, anyone who judges an album based on that needs to get a grip.
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Post by leak4ever on Mar 3, 2015 3:31:27 GMT -5
For fucks sake, so close. Just give him the 0.2.
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Post by Mean Mrs. Mustard on Mar 3, 2015 3:41:10 GMT -5
Woah. *reaches for chest* A review without someone saying Riverman sounds like Wonderwall!
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Post by shoreline on Mar 3, 2015 6:17:23 GMT -5
4/6 in norwegian newspaper Dagbladet (one of the three biggest national newspapers). Pretty positive, almost reads like an 5/6. They gave the first album a very positive 5/6. Norwegian journalists often tend to be kinda negative against the Gallaghers and slag them off a little as has-beens and Beatles-wannabes, so this not too bad. My translation: High Entertainment ValueFormer Oasis-founder with a new album. ALBUM: Noel Gallagher is being himself truly, he has obviously found his corner, and he sees no reason to crawl out of it. The opening of "Riverman" emulates the chord sequence to "Wonderwall" without it seeming too pretended. He does it with such a nonchalant attitude that one can not help but to smile a little of it. Mostly he sticks to a mood which is slightly more laid back than the more temperamental years of adolescence. Not too decadent city-pop with the horn section and the sax solo is always within reach. "Lock All the Doors' puts you on the express train back to the britpops heydays in the early 90th century, with clear nod to" Morning Glory. " Re-use is often unavoidable and songs like "The Mexican" are tipping over in more nonsense than what is good, but that doesn't hurt much when the entertainment factor mostly is so great. www.dagbladet.no/2015/02/27/kultur/musikk/musikkanmeldelser/anmeldelser/noel_gallagher/37896995/
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Post by Ltrain on Mar 3, 2015 6:59:34 GMT -5
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Post by Mean Mrs. Mustard on Mar 3, 2015 7:09:19 GMT -5
"There isn't enough Noel Gallagher on the album, maybe if Liam was singing.."
That sentence doesn't even make sense.
I noticed that the negative reviews describe In The Heat Of The Moment as one of the best songs on the album, while the positive reviews describe it as one of the weakest on the album
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Post by AubreyOasis on Mar 3, 2015 7:23:22 GMT -5
MondoSonoro (Spanish magazine) : 4/5 www.mondosonoro.com/Critica-Discos/Chasing-Yesterday/NOEL-GALLAGHERS-HIGH-FLYING-BIRDS/10423.aspxMondoSonoro is probably the second most important indie music magazine in spain (the first one, Rock de Lux has always been very negative with Oasis and has still not reviewed the album). The review is good but no enthusiastic. The reviewer likes all the songs except TM. I will translate the last paragraph, which is quite representative of the tone of the review: Don't look for big novelties here, because Noel Gallagher re-finds his songwriting talent doing what he does best, at the same time evidencing his (well known) limitations as a vocal performer. The new album of the mancunian scores high because of his skill with its elements and, as usual, will be as lack of interest for his detractors as will be juicy for his fans. Those are the virtues and drawbacks of an album that, by the way, includes some of the best songs released by the older of the famous brothers in quite some time
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Post by mimmihopps on Mar 3, 2015 7:42:03 GMT -5
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Post by leak4ever on Mar 3, 2015 11:43:58 GMT -5
Q - 4/5 NME - 7/10 Mojo - 4/5 Clash - 7/10 The Times - 4/5 The Guardian - 3/5 Evening Standard - 4/5 Telegraph - 3/5 All Music - 4/5 Drowned In Sound - 7/10 Pitchfork - 5.9/10 Hot Press Ireland - 8/10 Plato Mania - 8/10 Rolling Stone Francais - 4/5 Rolling Stone USA - 3.5/5 Rolling Stone Germany - 4/5 London Financial Times -4/5 Empty Lighthouse - 4.5/5 ---------------------------- Average - 8/10 The average has dropped to 7.5
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Post by zatine87 on Mar 3, 2015 11:47:36 GMT -5
4/6 in norwegian newspaper Dagbladet (one of the three biggest national newspapers). Pretty positive, almost reads like an 5/6. They gave the first album a very positive 5/6. Norwegian journalists often tend to be kinda negative against the Gallaghers and slag them off a little as has-beens and Beatles-wannabes, so this not too bad. My translation: High Entertainment ValueFormer Oasis-founder with a new album. ALBUM: Noel Gallagher is being himself truly, he has obviously found his corner, and he sees no reason to crawl out of it. The opening of "Riverman" emulates the chord sequence to "Wonderwall" without it seeming too pretended. He does it with such a nonchalant attitude that one can not help but to smile a little of it. Mostly he sticks to a mood which is slightly more laid back than the more temperamental years of adolescence. Not too decadent city-pop with the horn section and the sax solo is always within reach. "Lock All the Doors' puts you on the express train back to the britpops heydays in the early 90th century, with clear nod to" Morning Glory. " Re-use is often unavoidable and songs like "The Mexican" are tipping over in more nonsense than what is good, but that doesn't hurt much when the entertainment factor mostly is so great. www.dagbladet.no/2015/02/27/kultur/musikk/musikkanmeldelser/anmeldelser/noel_gallagher/37896995/Has there been a review in Aftenposten yet? VG gave him also 4/6.
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Post by shoreline on Mar 3, 2015 12:21:02 GMT -5
4/6 in norwegian newspaper Dagbladet (one of the three biggest national newspapers). Pretty positive, almost reads like an 5/6. They gave the first album a very positive 5/6. Norwegian journalists often tend to be kinda negative against the Gallaghers and slag them off a little as has-beens and Beatles-wannabes, so this not too bad. My translation: High Entertainment ValueFormer Oasis-founder with a new album. ALBUM: Noel Gallagher is being himself truly, he has obviously found his corner, and he sees no reason to crawl out of it. The opening of "Riverman" emulates the chord sequence to "Wonderwall" without it seeming too pretended. He does it with such a nonchalant attitude that one can not help but to smile a little of it. Mostly he sticks to a mood which is slightly more laid back than the more temperamental years of adolescence. Not too decadent city-pop with the horn section and the sax solo is always within reach. "Lock All the Doors' puts you on the express train back to the britpops heydays in the early 90th century, with clear nod to" Morning Glory. " Re-use is often unavoidable and songs like "The Mexican" are tipping over in more nonsense than what is good, but that doesn't hurt much when the entertainment factor mostly is so great. www.dagbladet.no/2015/02/27/kultur/musikk/musikkanmeldelser/anmeldelser/noel_gallagher/37896995/Has there been a review in Aftenposten yet? VG gave him also 4/6. Not that I know of. I checked the paper-version of today's Aftenposten, but they just reviewed two jazz records. Where did you find that review in VG? I can't find it online or in today's newspaper.
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Post by summersox on Mar 3, 2015 12:24:12 GMT -5
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