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Post by ariananana on Mar 2, 2015 9:09:30 GMT -5
A 5.9 from Pitchfork is a huge win for Noel. yeah, the fact that there was more than one positive line in that pitchfork review is a miracle.
I hate pitchfork but those hipster fucks take it as the bible for what's now in music.
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Post by XTRMNTRSCREAM on Mar 2, 2015 9:20:52 GMT -5
A 5.9 from Pitchfork is a huge win for Noel. yeah, the fact that there was more than one positive line in that pitchfork review is a miracle.
I hate pitchfork but those hipster fucks take it as the bible for what's now in music.
Am I a hipster fuck? The main gripe, I have seen from more negative reviews, is that most journalists know Noel can do a lot more e.g. the universal praise for the Right Stuff. It is a valid criticism.
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Post by ariananana on Mar 2, 2015 9:23:47 GMT -5
yeah, the fact that there was more than one positive line in that pitchfork review is a miracle.
I hate pitchfork but those hipster fucks take it as the bible for what's now in music.
Am I a hipster fuck? The main gripe, I have seen from more negative reviews, is that most journalists know Noel can do a lot more e.g. the universal praise for the Right Stuff. It is a valid criticism. I live in Brooklyn.......I'm surrounded my hipsters haha they do not like oasis and they do not like noel Gallagher (only his interviews, never his music)
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Post by boardie on Mar 2, 2015 9:48:09 GMT -5
Fuck it, this is not Oasis! The Good Gallagher eventually finds his place. When listening to „Ballad of the Mighty I“ one shouldn’t be deceived by the stomping beat, the general opulence and the disco guitar played by Johnny Marr. Behind all this glitter there waits a song that sounds exactly the way Oasis should sound today. With Chasing Yesterday, Noel Gallagher dares to go to places where he wouldn’t have gone in company with his brother – and he leaves his comfort zone. In the Heat of the Moment also has this disco beat – and a nice na-na-na-na-na hookline. The Right Stuff is a rather groovy improvisation that takes five and a half minutes and has a saxophone solo – which is also true for the opening song Riverman, a shuffling psychedelia song. Those who want to have back the old Oasis may be pleased by the tender Dying of the Light, the rocking Lock all the Doors and the guitar-riff dominated The Mexican as well as by a rapturous song that is surely accidentally called You know we cant go back. Actually not a very interesting review. But it didnt take a lot of time to translate it. If there are any mistakes I don't care.
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Post by XTRMNTRSCREAM on Mar 2, 2015 9:52:23 GMT -5
Am I a hipster fuck? The main gripe, I have seen from more negative reviews, is that most journalists know Noel can do a lot more e.g. the universal praise for the Right Stuff. It is a valid criticism. I live in Brooklyn.......I'm surrounded my hipsters haha they do not like oasis and they do not like noel Gallagher (only his interviews, never his music) Brooklyn is shit. Sutton Place is where it is at.
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Post by Cast on Mar 2, 2015 10:15:36 GMT -5
Happy with the Pitchfork score, around what I expected but the review itself is disappointing. Thought Berman would do better, wish Steven Hyden did the review but it'd probably come across as too positive for Pitchfork's demographic. Oh well at least he's on Grantland.
Overt beatles references - check (the Something reference in Riverman is really reaching, and I mean reaaaalllly reaching) Lazy Riverman and Wonderwall comparisons - check (I get that it has an acoustic groove but if anyone is going to compare WW to something it has to be TDOTL) interviews better than his music -check (kinda of annoying that my fellow American's are just now getting this bandwagon. He's been a great interviewee his whole career.)
I think the two worst parts of it all is the characterization that Noel works best as a foil. Look he might not be a world class frontman but songs like Don't Look Back in Anger, The Importance Of Being Idle, The Masterplan, Half The World Away, Falling Down are songs that are distinctly his own.
And this line "But while the songwriting may be on autopilot" if he really knew anything about Noel and Oasis, he'd understand that this is the most "out there" Noel has been since SOTSOG. Sure its not out there in comparison to Velvet Underground or something, but to say its on autopilot is just foolish. Riverman, ITHOTM, The Right Stuff, and While the Song Remains the Same are all really unique in comparison to his catalog.
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Post by eva on Mar 2, 2015 10:34:44 GMT -5
Fuck it, this is not Oasis! The Good Gallagher eventually finds his place. When listening to „Ballad of the Mighty I“ one shouldn’t be deceived by the stomping beat, the general opulence and the disco guitar played by Johnny Marr. Behind all this glitter there waits a song that sounds exactly the way Oasis should sound today. With Chasing Yesterday, Noel Gallagher dares to go to places where he wouldn’t have gone in company with his brother – and he leaves his comfort zone. In the Heat of the Moment also has this disco beat – and a nice na-na-na-na-na hookline. The Right Stuff is a rather groovy improvisation that takes five and a half minutes and has a saxophone solo – which is also true for the opening song Riverman, a shuffling psychedelia song. Those who want to have back the old Oasis may be pleased by the tender Dying of the Light, the rocking Lock all the Doors and the guitar-riff dominated The Mexican as well as by a rapturous song that is surely accidentally called You know we cant go back. Actually not a very interesting review. But it didnt take a lot of time to translate it. If there are any mistakes I don't care. Thanks for translating!
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Post by webm@ster on Mar 2, 2015 10:53:52 GMT -5
>>Brooklyn is shit. Sutton Place is where it is at.
have to admit...made me laugh
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Post by Lennon2217 on Mar 2, 2015 11:00:24 GMT -5
Happy with the Pitchfork score, around what I expected but the review itself is disappointing. Thought Berman would do better, wish Steven Hyden did the review but it'd probably come across as too positive for Pitchfork's demographic. Oh well at least he's on Grantland. Overt beatles references - check (the Something reference in Riverman is really reaching, and I mean reaaaalllly reaching) Lazy Riverman and Wonderwall comparisons - check (I get that it has an acoustic groove but if anyone is going to compare WW to something it has to be TDOTL) interviews better than his music -check (kinda of annoying that my fellow American's are just now getting this bandwagon. He's been a great interviewee his whole career.) I think the two worst parts of it all is the characterization that Noel works best as a foil. Look he might not be a world class frontman but songs like Don't Look Back in Anger, The Importance Of Being Idle, The Masterplan, Half The World Away, Falling Down are songs that are distinctly his own. And this line "But while the songwriting may be on autopilot" if he really knew anything about Noel and Oasis, he'd understand that this is the most "out there" Noel has been since SOTSOG. Sure its not out there in comparison to Velvet Underground or something, but to say its on autopilot is just foolish. Riverman, ITHOTM, The Right Stuff, and While the Song Remains the Same are all really unique in comparison to his catalog. Yeah, he basically read a bunch of other reviews of Chasing Yesterday and reused the same comparisons with juicy subject matters (Beatles, Floyd, Bowie, etc). I did like how he pointed out that Noel self produced it and it worked In his favor. So true.
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Post by tonethestone1 on Mar 2, 2015 12:29:07 GMT -5
Fuck it, this is not Oasis! The Good Gallagher eventually finds his place. When listening to „Ballad of the Mighty I“ one shouldn’t be deceived by the stomping beat, the general opulence and the disco guitar played by Johnny Marr. Behind all this glitter there waits a song that sounds exactly the way Oasis should sound today. With Chasing Yesterday, Noel Gallagher dares to go to places where he wouldn’t have gone in company with his brother – and he leaves his comfort zone. In the Heat of the Moment also has this disco beat – and a nice na-na-na-na-na hookline. The Right Stuff is a rather groovy improvisation that takes five and a half minutes and has a saxophone solo – which is also true for the opening song Riverman, a shuffling psychedelia song. Those who want to have back the old Oasis may be pleased by the tender Dying of the Light, the rocking Lock all the Doors and the guitar-riff dominated The Mexican as well as by a rapturous song that is surely accidentally called You know we cant go back. Actually not a very interesting review. But it didnt take a lot of time to translate it. If there are any mistakes I don't care. "The Good Gallagher" lol, spot on!
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Post by summersox on Mar 2, 2015 12:33:59 GMT -5
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Post by Banksy on Mar 2, 2015 12:59:37 GMT -5
So overall it's pretty much critically acclaimed isn't it? Not that it is the be all and end all BUT it is always nice to hear/see. The bad reviews seem to be either by publications that have never liked NG or have preconceived negativity about whatever he puts out from what I have read. The 8/10s and 4/5s (even some of the 7/10s and 3/5s) negative comments on the whole seem pretty fair to me anyway and do warrant a mark off in areas. If Noel did really decide to push the boat out and lean more towards an album full of top end tracks in the mould of RM, TBOTMI, TRS etc without any pressure from executives on singles, time frames etc he could produce something utterly special.
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Post by underneaththesky on Mar 2, 2015 13:11:02 GMT -5
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Post by Banksy on Mar 2, 2015 13:13:30 GMT -5
I did not mind the Man Eve News review there. Mentioned the now standard RM and WW comparison but at least she made the effort to point out that it is almost a sarcastic red herring from Noel.
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Post by tonethestone1 on Mar 2, 2015 13:16:14 GMT -5
MEN one is a really good review. Critically acclaimed album without any doubt at all, more acclaimed than his first and from opinion of those ive seen on here this album is preferred to his first as well. Well done Noel!!
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Post by The Crimson Rambler on Mar 2, 2015 13:31:40 GMT -5
So overall it's pretty much critically acclaimed isn't it? Not that it is the be all and end all BUT it is always nice to hear/see. The bad reviews seem to be either by publications that have never liked NG or have preconceived negativity about whatever he puts out from what I have read. The 8/10s and 4/5s (even some of the 7/10s and 3/5s) negative comments on the whole seem pretty fair to me anyway and do warrant a mark off in areas. If Noel did really decide to push the boat out and lean more towards an album full of top end tracks in the mould of RM, TBOTMI, TRS etc without any pressure from executives on singles, time frames etc he could produce something utterly special. I doubt any of those things come into play... he's on his own label. Maybe he'd choose the singles differently but that's about it.
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Post by zatine87 on Mar 2, 2015 13:41:26 GMT -5
That must be the most positive review I've ever seen. Wow.
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Post by Banksy on Mar 2, 2015 13:41:50 GMT -5
So overall it's pretty much critically acclaimed isn't it? Not that it is the be all and end all BUT it is always nice to hear/see. The bad reviews seem to be either by publications that have never liked NG or have preconceived negativity about whatever he puts out from what I have read. The 8/10s and 4/5s (even some of the 7/10s and 3/5s) negative comments on the whole seem pretty fair to me anyway and do warrant a mark off in areas. If Noel did really decide to push the boat out and lean more towards an album full of top end tracks in the mould of RM, TBOTMI, TRS etc without any pressure from executives on singles, time frames etc he could produce something utterly special. I doubt any of those things come into play... he's on his own label. Maybe he'd choose the singles differently but that's about it. Oh I dunno man. He specifically said his label allows him one of two months to release his albums, I think it's eithef October of March... So they clearly do have a say in pretty important decisions.
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Post by tonethestone1 on Mar 2, 2015 13:43:42 GMT -5
That must be the most positive review I've ever seen. Wow. Quite a few reviews have little digs at Liam, quite funny some of them tbf.
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Post by ariananana on Mar 2, 2015 13:43:52 GMT -5
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Post by Banksy on Mar 2, 2015 13:48:39 GMT -5
This is comment is exactly what I have been saying about going forward (or at least trying to say in my usual unarticulated fashion): Noel is on his way to becoming a true icon in his own right away from the Oasis legacy. He doesn’t need a Glastonbury reunion or half a million quid. What he needs is his High Flying Birds, a studio and a pen and he’s pretty damn sorted.
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Post by The Crimson Rambler on Mar 2, 2015 13:55:55 GMT -5
I doubt any of those things come into play... he's on his own label. Maybe he'd choose the singles differently but that's about it. Oh I dunno man. He specifically said his label allows him one of two months to release his albums, I think it's eithef October of March... So they clearly do have a say in pretty important decisions. Sour Mash give him the choice of a March/October release but it doesn't mean Noel can't delay his projects for a subsequent March/October release. For example Noel missed the October release and that's why we've waited so ridiculously long for his album to come out. March/October are drop dates, not deadlines.
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Post by Banksy on Mar 2, 2015 14:09:24 GMT -5
Oh I dunno man. He specifically said his label allows him one of two months to release his albums, I think it's eithef October of March... So they clearly do have a say in pretty important decisions. Sour Mash give him the choice of a March/October release but it doesn't mean Noel can't delay his projects for a subsequent March/October release. For example Noel missed the October release and that's why we've waited so ridiculously long for his album to come out. March/October are drop dates, not deadlines. Fair enough. God knows why the week after the Brits is a preferred release date for an album with all the boosts albums and artists who win and perform get??? Also on the awards front it's literally a calendar year until the Brits etc. again awards don't mean much but it would be nice.
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Post by Headmaster on Mar 2, 2015 14:12:05 GMT -5
How predictable is Pitchfuckers Media han?
Is always this shit of "something point nine", instead of giving a straight number.
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Post by gdforever on Mar 2, 2015 14:47:58 GMT -5
Sour Mash give him the choice of a March/October release but it doesn't mean Noel can't delay his projects for a subsequent March/October release. For example Noel missed the October release and that's why we've waited so ridiculously long for his album to come out. March/October are drop dates, not deadlines. Fair enough. God knows why the week after the Brits is a preferred release date for an album with all the boosts albums and artists who win and perform get??? Also on the awards front it's literally a calendar year until the Brits etc. again awards don't mean much but it would be nice. In terms of the release date compared to the Brits. Someone had said that the Brits is placed where it is in the year to start supporting a bolster in the music sales again after a 2 month lull post Christmas. A new Noel release can more than hold it's own against sales boosts on Brits award winners albums so that isn't an issue. I don't know for sure. But seems like Noel's label is aiming for releasing at the beginning of big record buying times. March when the sales of music are climbing post award season and before the season for big summer releases then the festivals to maintain sales. And October for a # 1 then try to hold on for the big sales before Christmas. From what I remember HFB stabilized it's sales around festival season quite well.
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