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Post by mimmihopps on Sept 5, 2014 1:17:15 GMT -5
mimmihopps Regarding the Bring it on Down session at Eden Studios. I emailed Steve White via his website and he kindly got back with the following info, explaining that, "my first contact was at the white room recording where noël and Paul dueted on talk tonight , it definitely wasn't me." Thanks again to Steve for taking the time to reply to this query. Thank you very much for taking the time to get in contact with Steve, davidjay. I really appreciate it. and thank you to Steve for taking the time to answer this quetion. I've never seen Alan White live, only saw Zak and Chris as the drummer for Oasis, but I did see Steve White with Weller once in 2006. He's a great drummer as well.
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Post by davidjay on Mar 28, 2015 14:44:16 GMT -5
Just seen this new upload on the official Oasis YouTube channel, which is a short video about the Chasing the Sun exhibition in Japan. Looks like a great turnout and there were some unique Oasis items there. Thought it may be of interest in this thread, as there were several previously-unseen studio tracking sheets on display. Click 1080p for best quality.
One that caught my eye was the Out of the Blue studios tracking sheet for Columbia, as I always wondered if they worked on anything other than Shakermaker in that session. It seems that this is where they remixed the original 8-track recording (taped with the Real People in Jan-March '93) to create the stereo version heard on the White Label demo.
I did notice that on the Columbia sheet it says "Loop + Voice" on one track (no indication of the source of those mystery samples, hah!) and "Noel backing vox plus radio" on the other... perhaps a reference to the "not quite acid house" chant and radio continuity announcement that can be heard at the end of version 1 of Columbia on the "Oasis in Boardwalk Basement" cassette. There looks to be another Sawmills tracking sheet with the word [Cloud]burst just visible. So that's another one that can be narrowed down in the recording timeline. There are several Monnow Valley ones too.
Did anyone on here visit the exhibition? I'd love to see clearer shots of these sheets if possible, as it's a great help in researching the recording sessions for my site. Thanks in advance for any help on this.
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Post by davidjay on Mar 28, 2015 14:51:58 GMT -5
There's also a Sawmills tracking sheet for the studio recording of I am the Walrus in there btw. Not sure if this will show the full detail of the text. I was unable to attach the full image to this post.
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Post by davidjay on Mar 28, 2015 15:04:33 GMT -5
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Post by davidjay on Mar 29, 2015 4:09:33 GMT -5
Bump in case anyone on here visited this exhibition - do you have any clear photos of these tracking sheets?
I've checked on Google images but no luck there. Any help on this would be much appreciated. Thanks.
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Post by Casino Boogie on Mar 29, 2015 6:07:11 GMT -5
Brilliant work as ever DavidJay. Hope the exhibition comes back to the UK for the BHN re-release.
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Post by asimarx on Mar 29, 2015 14:19:18 GMT -5
Cheers David. I had noticed them assembling (quite arbitrarily) those tracking sheets in the video as well, would be fantastic to have the the chance to see them in their entirety. Hopefully a japanese member is able to take some clearer pictures!
It's great to finally feel certain where the b-side version of Cloudburst can be placed in the recording time. I think the general assumption has been Sawmills anyway, judging by the sound and vibe of it. Since Owen Morris stated that he "didn't have anything to do" with the song, I wonder why they had decided to not let him remix it, just like the other recordings, or if he even had a go at the studio recording of I Am The Walrus from Sawmills.
Brilliant info about the White Label version of Columbia as well. I really hope you're able to solve this whole chant mystery one day!
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Post by davidjay on Mar 29, 2015 15:03:14 GMT -5
Here's some of the tracking sheets I've managed to decipher from the video. These are from the recording session at Sawmills Studio, Cornwall (24 February – 4 March 1994). The sessions were co-produced by Noel Gallagher and Mark Coyle and engineered by Anjali Dutt. The notes are incomplete as you can't see all 24 tracks for most of these, and there's nothing other than the title of the Cloudburst one visible on the vid.
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Post by davidjay on Mar 29, 2015 15:36:21 GMT -5
Here's the ones from Out of the Blue studios, Manchester. These were very blurred on the still, so below is my best attempt at deciphering the text after sharpening and adjusting the contrast to make it a bit more legible.
I understand these sheets are from the October 1993 session in which they recorded the demo of Shakermaker. There are two tracking sheets for Shakermaker, one of which I think is probably from the April 94 session (noted in Melody Maker's 1994 article on the making of Definitely Maybe) where they did additional work on the demo, most likely resulting in the "Slide Up" mix heard on the Japanese edition of the Definitely Maybe reissue.
The ones for Columbia appear to be transfers of the 8-track masters recorded in Liverpool with the Real People, in order to prepare the stereo mix that became the White Label demo version (which differs slightly from the version heard on the Live Demonstration cassette).
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Post by davidjay on Mar 29, 2015 15:57:21 GMT -5
And at the top, next to Brian Cannon's artwork for the album, there's a Loco Studios tracking sheet for Up in the Sky. Could be the September 1993 session in which they also recorded the demo of Live Forever - can't say for sure as there are no dates visible. They did record there later of course, but if it was for a vocal re-recording for the final album mix you wouldn't expect all 24 tracks to be filled as they are on that sheet. I think that's about it on this for the moment, unless anyone has any clearer pics from the exhibition? Cheers.
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Post by mouth on Mar 29, 2015 16:00:36 GMT -5
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Post by davidjay on Mar 29, 2015 16:12:11 GMT -5
This vid still makes me laugh
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Post by asimarx on Mar 29, 2015 16:44:30 GMT -5
Dave Batchelor surely liked his ambience...is that supposed to be some sort of Martin Hannett trick? ;-)
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Post by davidjay on Apr 6, 2015 12:21:10 GMT -5
Cheers David. I had noticed them assembling (quite arbitrarily) those tracking sheets in the video as well, would be fantastic to have the the chance to see them in their entirety. Hopefully a japanese member is able to take some clearer pictures! It's great to finally feel certain where the b-side version of Cloudburst can be placed in the recording time. I think the general assumption has been Sawmills anyway, judging by the sound and vibe of it. Since Owen Morris stated that he "didn't have anything to do" with the song, I wonder why they had decided to not let him remix it, just like the other recordings, or if he even had a go at the studio recording of I Am The Walrus from Sawmills. Yes, good to know that Cloudburst was recorded at Sawmills. It still leaves some uncertainty over where it was mixed though, as the version we have is sonically quite different to the other tracks recorded at Sawmills and mixed at Eden. The other Eden mixes of Sawmills tracks have that stripped back, drier sound recalling 70s Neil Young. Whereas Cloudburst has that heavy, Spector-esque wall of sound that's more consistent with the released album. Since Owen confirmed he didn't mix it, I think it might have been mixed by Mark Coyle in the second (April 94) session at Out of the Blue, where they did extra work on the demo of Shakermaker. Thanks! Yeah, I'd love to find out where that chant came from. It's proven very hard to get any info on though. A real mystery. I haven't even found any reference to it in old interviews etc. I think I might have more luck in trying to trace the source of the Tony Benn sample, if only because we know who's talking, the text he's reading from, and that it was from a UK radio broadcast. The chant is much harder to place because we don't know the artist, the original lyrics, or even the language in which it's sung... as far as I can tell, the words heard in the chant can't be translated because they're partly made from syllables spliced together from elsewhere in the source recording.
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Post by orchid121480 on Apr 13, 2015 10:44:23 GMT -5
Bring it on Down - March, 9, 2003 Alan White on drums
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Post by davidjay on Feb 21, 2016 17:38:06 GMT -5
Finally added this 2014 interview to my site. (I had previously tried editing it into the original Anjali interview, but I think it works better as a stand alone piece). Many thanks to Anjali for taking the time to help out on this. www.oasis-recordinginfo.co.uk/?page_id=1850
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Post by birchy on Feb 21, 2016 18:19:24 GMT -5
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Post by liamsvoice on Feb 22, 2016 5:50:57 GMT -5
whoa...wait...so theres a video recording of them from 92 playing/miming Take Me???
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Post by Mean Mrs. Mustard on Feb 22, 2016 5:59:41 GMT -5
He's like, the Mark Lewisohn of Oasis.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 22, 2016 6:42:21 GMT -5
whoa...wait...so theres a video recording of them from 92 playing/miming Take Me??? It was recorded but they didn't broadcast it iirc.
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