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Post by Let It 🩸 on Apr 24, 2014 16:29:26 GMT -5
A Chelsea win brings Citeh back in it and it becomes a 3 horse race again, so playing the odds Maureen paradoxically would have a worse off chance of winning the league with a win. I, personally, value the Prem over the CL - as does Arsene. Seriously, who gives a fuck that Liverpool won it in 2005 (although that final was dramatic as hell). But them winning the league this season? What a story. Hopefully the Portuguese yoghurt cock loses both games. that's the problem with your fruity round robin system - the league should be settled with playoffs and dueling pistols. Thanks.
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Post by Beady’s Here Now on Apr 24, 2014 16:36:58 GMT -5
Liverpool all but clinches the title with a win over Chelsea this weekend, and victory could officially see them win the league if Citeh fail to win. Go on my son!
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Post by Lennon2217 on Apr 24, 2014 16:37:54 GMT -5
Liverpool all but clinches the title with a win over Chelsea this weekend, and victory could officially see them win the league if Citeh fail to win. Go on my son! You and your shitty Gunners let these events come to pass.
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Post by Beady’s Here Now on Apr 24, 2014 20:18:30 GMT -5
Liverpool all but clinches the title with a win over Chelsea this weekend, and victory could officially see them win the league if Citeh fail to win. Go on my son! You and your shitty Gunners let these events come to pass. This is very true. The league was ours until the team realized that. Once they realized they were in pole position, they bottled under the pressure. Again. And they very almost nearly bottled the FA Cup Semi Final. Bunch of mugs.
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Post by Lennon2217 on Apr 24, 2014 20:19:13 GMT -5
You and your shitty Gunners let these events come to pass. This is very true. The league was ours until the team realized that. Once they realized they were in pole position, they bottled under the pressure. Again. And they very almost nearly bottled the FA Cup Semi Final. Bunch of mugs. Arsenal still have time to fuck up the FA Cup Final. I smell doom.
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Post by His Royal Noelness on Apr 27, 2014 10:17:55 GMT -5
Glorious result. Hopefully that's the end of Liverpool's title hopes!
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Post by matt on Apr 27, 2014 10:42:10 GMT -5
City cannot throw this away again - thought it was over after Sunderland, now time to reclaim my bet at the start of the season.
Gutted for Liverpool playing against two parked buses, it's easy to succeed with all that talent playing anti-football unfortunately. Got a horrible feeling Chelsea will fluke their way - if they do, might as well cancel all football because they've killed the game.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 28, 2014 11:45:26 GMT -5
City cannot throw this away again - thought it was over after Sunderland, now time to reclaim my bet at the start of the season. Gutted for Liverpool playing against two parked buses, it's easy to succeed with all that talent playing anti-football unfortunately. Got a horrible feeling Chelsea will fluke their way - if they do, might as well cancel all football because they've killed the game. wonderful performance by chelsea again jose gets his tactics spot on.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 28, 2014 11:47:13 GMT -5
Hilarious, he's blaming the referee and the chief. What a total wankshaft. Robbie Savage got it bang on a minute ago on the radio. He said we used to wait in anticipation for Mourinho's comments, now he's 'wearing thin' and 'he's boring'. The whole panto act is embarrassing. The joke is well and truly worn. Like the Boris Johnson of football. smart psychology to move the blame away from his players, it's not what a manger does it's why he does it that you should be thinking about.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 28, 2014 11:48:30 GMT -5
not sure why but this isn't being shown in the UK at the moment but i downloaded it and watched it yesterday and it's a wonderful documentary about a horror show.
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Post by BEng on Apr 28, 2014 14:21:01 GMT -5
City cannot throw this away again - thought it was over after Sunderland, now time to reclaim my bet at the start of the season. Gutted for Liverpool playing against two parked buses, it's easy to succeed with all that talent playing anti-football unfortunately. Got a horrible feeling Chelsea will fluke their way - if they do, might as well cancel all football because they've killed the game. wonderful performance by chelsea again jose gets his tactics spot on. Kudos to Chelsea and Mourinho winning, they did pull it off. That's about all the nice things I've got to say about that. They parked 2 busses in front of the goal, started winning time after 1 minute and waited for Liverpool to slip up. Eventually they did. It's a very effective strategy, but I wouldn't call it "wonderfull". It destroys football, it's very boring to watch, and at times (the timewinning) even very unsportive. I absolutately despise Chelsea for that, and numerous other of reasons (Abramovic's Oil money etc...). Same could be said about City, but at least they play some exciting, vgood football. Mourinho would sell his own mother if that was what it would take to win a game. I respect the guy for his ability and will to win, but not for the football he produces.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 28, 2014 14:44:07 GMT -5
wonderful performance by chelsea again jose gets his tactics spot on. Kudos to Chelsea and Mourinho winning, they did pull it off. That's about all the nice things I've got to say about that. They parked 2 busses in front of the goal, started winning time after 1 minute and waited for Liverpool to slip up. Eventually they did. It's a very effective strategy, but I wouldn't call it "wonderfull". It destroys football, it's very boring to watch, and at times (the timewinning) even very unsportive. I absolutately despise Chelsea for that, and numerous other of reasons (Abrahomic's Oil money etc...). Same could be said about City, but at least they play some exciting, vgood football. Mourinho would sell his own mother if that was what it would take to win a game. I respect the guy for his ability and will to win, but not for the football he produces. he adapts for the occasion and often gets it right, watching liverpool loose will always be wonderful, lets hope chelsea or if really needed city win the title.
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Post by BEng on Apr 28, 2014 15:21:00 GMT -5
Kudos to Chelsea and Mourinho winning, they did pull it off. That's about all the nice things I've got to say about that. They parked 2 busses in front of the goal, started winning time after 1 minute and waited for Liverpool to slip up. Eventually they did. It's a very effective strategy, but I wouldn't call it "wonderfull". It destroys football, it's very boring to watch, and at times (the timewinning) even very unsportive. I absolutately despise Chelsea for that, and numerous other of reasons (Abrahomic's Oil money etc...). Same could be said about City, but at least they play some exciting, vgood football. Mourinho would sell his own mother if that was what it would take to win a game. I respect the guy for his ability and will to win, but not for the football he produces. he adapts for the occasion and often gets it right, watching liverpool loose will always be wonderful, lets hope chelsea or if really needed city win the title. It seems unlikely to me that Liverpool would win it at the moment. A shame, because their squad isn't "bought" together and has a lot of English players in it. It would be a victory for football over money if they were to win it. That being said, if Liverpool don't win it, I hope City do. Their squad is also "bought" together, but at least they play proper football. And of course it would make Liam/Noel happy Just about anyone can win it for me but Chelsea. It's one of the few things I actually really hate with a passion.
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Post by WirralRiddler on Apr 28, 2014 16:09:54 GMT -5
I think Mourinho's genius is being over played somewhat, although i agree he is a great manager the game yesterday was destined for a 0-0 until Gerrard slips over. That mistake alone handed Chelsea the win. Jose's tactics were to ensure they didn't get beat, which actually suited Liverpool fine. We were happy with the 0-0. Gerrard falling over made our efforts to break them down a whole lot tougher from there, we gave it a go but just didn't seem like we would score had we played all night. Just one of those days for Liverpool, and as soon as a Mourinho team has something to hold onto then its always going to be extra difficult. Fair play to Chelsea and to Jose though, not easy to stop us scoring but they managed it, so credit where credits due, just gutting we've handed City the chance now, and with Aguero and Toure both back now you've got to fancy them. Hoping for a favour from Everton, Villa or West Ham now. Still another twist or 2 to come i feel. Its been a great season whatever the outcome.
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Post by matt on Apr 28, 2014 18:40:15 GMT -5
City cannot throw this away again - thought it was over after Sunderland, now time to reclaim my bet at the start of the season. Gutted for Liverpool playing against two parked buses, it's easy to succeed with all that talent playing anti-football unfortunately. Got a horrible feeling Chelsea will fluke their way - if they do, might as well cancel all football because they've killed the game. wonderful performance by chelsea again jose gets his tactics spot on. I'm not winding you up Ross but I genuinely fail to see why you admire Jose. Jose is the biggest troll in world football - and that is a compliment and an insult at the same time. He is undoubtedly a winner - frustratingly brilliant - but as a human being, he is completely lacking in any goodness and morality. But when he rationalises things and puts away his panto act for a few minutes, he is genuinely one of the most fascinating and informative people when he talks about football. I can't see why he can't be a decent man and brilliant at the same time. He set his team up well and always sets his team up well, but it's hardly a 'wonderful' performance being gifted by luck and having no possession. It was sheer luck, graft and hard work - a bit like role's reversed from the 05 Champions League semi-final. But it sticks in my throat when a team that cost hundreds of millions of pounds can't play one bit of football. Another day, and a bit more quality in Liverpool would have seen them hounded like City did against them in the FA Cup. I'm confident he will beat Athletico because he will be forced to attack, and if so, then why not play for the win all the time Jose? His teams CAN score goals and play attacking football - the year he beat Barca to the league showed this as, I think, Madrid have the record goals scored in La Liga that year. If he did, I would have no problem with him. But the reason he looks likely to lose the Premier League is quite simply, his team have not been attacking minded enough. He can blame the referees and his strikers all he wants, but if he had set up his side to be attacking against Villa, Palace and Sunderland, then Chelsea would undoubtedly win the league. Fact is, he didn't, and that is his fault alone, and it jars with everyone when everyone is to blame apart from him. He's not 'brilliant' like Ferguson where you have to accept and applaud it. But 'frustratingly brilliant' is the perfect way to describe him, and he very well knows it too.
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Post by Let It 🩸 on Apr 28, 2014 18:59:00 GMT -5
i really enjoy reading everyone's posts in this and other football threads.
Thanks.
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Post by matt on Apr 28, 2014 19:13:05 GMT -5
wonderful performance by chelsea again jose gets his tactics spot on. Kudos to Chelsea and Mourinho winning, they did pull it off. That's about all the nice things I've got to say about that. They parked 2 busses in front of the goal, started winning time after 1 minute and waited for Liverpool to slip up. Eventually they did. It's a very effective strategy, but I wouldn't call it "wonderfull". It destroys football, it's very boring to watch, and at times (the timewinning) even very unsportive. I absolutately despise Chelsea for that, and numerous other of reasons (Abramovic's Oil money etc...). Same could be said about City, but at least they play some exciting, vgood football. Mourinho would sell his own mother if that was what it would take to win a game. I respect the guy for his ability and will to win, but not for the football he produces. Abramovich is a fraud. Being Putin's mate is bad enough, but his oil ventures left many Russians in poverty. He bought Chelsea for political reasons so he could shelter in the UK, not footballing reasons. It's well known they are morally bankrupt on the field, but fans don't know the half of it when it comes to him.
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Post by Beady’s Here Now on Apr 28, 2014 22:08:22 GMT -5
We've practically clinched 4th. Sign Arsene up! Quickly! Before another team desires mediocrity and offers him a contract!
P.S. Happy St. Totteringham's Day.
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Post by matt on Apr 29, 2014 10:37:18 GMT -5
We've practically clinched 4th. Sign Arsene up! Quickly! Before another team desires mediocrity and offers him a contract! P.S. Happy St. Totteringham's Day. With Man Utd surely back to competitiveness next season, Wenger needs to pull his finger out and spend in the transfer window. If not, then they will be the ones to slip up next year.
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Post by thomaslivesforever on Apr 29, 2014 14:45:04 GMT -5
Kudos to Chelsea and Mourinho winning, they did pull it off. That's about all the nice things I've got to say about that. They parked 2 busses in front of the goal, started winning time after 1 minute and waited for Liverpool to slip up. Eventually they did. It's a very effective strategy, but I wouldn't call it "wonderfull". It destroys football, it's very boring to watch, and at times (the timewinning) even very unsportive. I absolutately despise Chelsea for that, and numerous other of reasons (Abramovic's Oil money etc...). Same could be said about City, but at least they play some exciting, vgood football. Mourinho would sell his own mother if that was what it would take to win a game. I respect the guy for his ability and will to win, but not for the football he produces. Abramovich is a fraud. Being Putin's mate is bad enough, but his oil ventures left many Russians in poverty. He bought Chelsea for political reasons so he could shelter in the UK, not footballing reasons. It's well known they are morally bankrupt on the field, but fans don't know the half of it when it comes to him. Your bitterness towards Chelsea is hilarious. It would be good if you gave a balanced opinion. The Russian billionaire who has a large stake in your club is a personal friend of Roman A and also sacked an editor of one of his papers for criticising Putin for vote rigging! Jose knew his team couldn't go gung-ho against Liverpool and stand a chance so he set them up for counter attacking and played to his teams strengths. Its something most smart managers would have done. Did it make for entertaining football? No but its a results based game.
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Post by matt on Apr 30, 2014 12:57:41 GMT -5
Abramovich is a fraud. Being Putin's mate is bad enough, but his oil ventures left many Russians in poverty. He bought Chelsea for political reasons so he could shelter in the UK, not footballing reasons. It's well known they are morally bankrupt on the field, but fans don't know the half of it when it comes to him. Your bitterness towards Chelsea is hilarious. It would be good if you gave a balanced opinion. The Russian billionaire who has a large stake in your club is a personal friend of Roman A and also sacked an editor of one of his papers for criticising Putin for vote rigging! Jose knew his team couldn't go gung-ho against Liverpool and stand a chance so he set them up for counter attacking and played to his teams strengths. Its something most smart managers would have done. Did it make for entertaining football? No but its a results based game. Wow, if you knew the difference between bitterness and morality.... I can't stand Usmanov, but that's why Stan Kroenke is great for the club. He is the major shareholder and has real control of the club, not Usmanov. I would expect a fan revolt if Usmanov takes control - if so, I disown Arsenal.
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Post by Beady’s Here Now on Apr 30, 2014 14:00:34 GMT -5
Your bitterness towards Chelsea is hilarious. It would be good if you gave a balanced opinion. The Russian billionaire who has a large stake in your club is a personal friend of Roman A and also sacked an editor of one of his papers for criticising Putin for vote rigging! Jose knew his team couldn't go gung-ho against Liverpool and stand a chance so he set them up for counter attacking and played to his teams strengths. Its something most smart managers would have done. Did it make for entertaining football? No but its a results based game. Wow, if you knew the difference between bitterness and morality.... I can't stand Usmanov, but that's why Stan Kroenke is great for the club. He is the major shareholder and has real control of the club, not Usmanov. I would expect a fan revolt if Usmanov takes control - if so, I disown Arsenal. I can't stand Kroenke. He's an American who has literally no interest in the team nor the sport. He's in it simply for the money. And, correct me if I'm wrong, all of his American teams that he's been responsible for, have been poor. Can't stand him, he only encourages Wenger's inflexibility, frugality, and stubbornness. Arsenal have not been the same since David Dein left in 2007. I honestly think that factor gets vastly overlooked. He was an instrumental figure for the club, and had a fantastic working relationship with Wenger. After he left, it was Wenger who took on the responsibilities that Dein had - responsibilities that overloaded the Frenchmen's time, as well as, seemingly, being beyond his capabilities.
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Post by thomaslivesforever on Apr 30, 2014 16:16:50 GMT -5
Your bitterness towards Chelsea is hilarious. It would be good if you gave a balanced opinion. The Russian billionaire who has a large stake in your club is a personal friend of Roman A and also sacked an editor of one of his papers for criticising Putin for vote rigging! Jose knew his team couldn't go gung-ho against Liverpool and stand a chance so he set them up for counter attacking and played to his teams strengths. Its something most smart managers would have done. Did it make for entertaining football? No but its a results based game. Wow, if you knew the difference between bitterness and morality.... I can't stand Usmanov, but that's why Stan Kroenke is great for the club. He is the major shareholder and has real control of the club, not Usmanov. I would expect a fan revolt if Usmanov takes control - if so, I disown Arsenal. What is this morality you speak of? angryofislington.com/2013/05/08/stan-dont-deliver-how-does-kroenke-treat-his-us-sports-clubs/Seriously matt, don't be so naive.
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Post by Beady’s Here Now on Apr 30, 2014 16:38:54 GMT -5
It would have been nice if the author could have atleast got the title grammatically correct. Jesus Christ.
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Post by matt on Apr 30, 2014 16:44:55 GMT -5
I don't know his track record with previous US sports clubs but you are right that is piss poor. That reads like a terrible businessman. Worryingly similar to Randy Lerner at Aston Villa, looks like he doesn't care. What I mean by 'morality' is the 'fit and proper' rule for Premier League owners. I mean it in terms of human rights abuses and corruption. The Man City owners should also be hounded - the record of human rights abuses linked to that family is unreal. Their previous owner Thaksin Sinawatra I think left because of this. I think it's terrible if the Premier League is shielding genuine criminals. That goes for Arsenal too. Kroenke is not the ideal owner, but he isn't guilty of crimes - at least I don't think so. Usmanov is a criminal - he was even in jail, so it's the lesser of two evils in my view. The problem with guys like Usmanov is that their maniacal tendencies often drive clubs into the ground while the Premier League does nothing at all. I think it's dangerous for any club. Ideally, I wish the Premier League had the fan ownership model of Germany. It's worked wonders with many teams in the Bundesliga. I think everyone hates Leeds Utd, but they wouldn't be where they are if their dedicated fans owned them and they didn't have such a run of terrible owners. I think they would still be one of England's major clubs if there was fan ownership in place
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