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Post by The Invisible Sun on May 3, 2013 9:47:33 GMT -5
This album was amazing. It was almost prophetic.
It came out at the turn of the century, the new millennium.
It represents change in the music world, change towards technology and change in peoples thinking.
It has some of the best lyrics and melodies that Noel ever created.
The production is the best of any Oasis album in my opinion.
I will never understand why people don't like, but I have to say it is probably my favorite. It is sophisticated, it has soul, energy and flavor.
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Post by defmaybe00 on May 3, 2013 9:53:42 GMT -5
Not my favourite,but I love it!
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Post by Deleted on May 3, 2013 10:02:26 GMT -5
This album was amazing. It was almost prophetic. It came out at the turn of the century, the new millennium. It represents change in the music world, change towards technology and change in peoples thinking. It has some of the best lyrics and melodies that Noel ever created. The production is the best of any Oasis album in my opinion. I will never understand why people don't like, but I have to say it is probably my favorite. It is sophisticated, it has soul, energy and flavor. Wouldn't agree with it having some of the best lyrics Noel has created but it's a pretty good album
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Post by Deleted on May 3, 2013 10:17:59 GMT -5
It's my favourite as well.
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Post by Deleted on May 3, 2013 10:24:59 GMT -5
This album was amazing. It was almost prophetic. It came out at the turn of the century, the new millennium. It represents change in the music world, change towards technology and change in peoples thinking. It has some of the best lyrics and melodies that Noel ever created. The production is the best of any Oasis album in my opinion. I will never understand why people don't like, but I have to say it is probably my favorite. It is sophisticated, it has soul, energy and flavor. Wouldn't agree with it having some of the best lyrics Noel has created but it's a pretty good album Agreed. I never got the bashing like Hindu times said But you know in another thread I forget who said it but there dead right ....oasis couldn't win if they made a record that was there style. They ripped off Beatles and stones When they went outside the box like that ,,like here , they get panned as well ... To me for what is being put out here today it's brilliant And apologies to all you " team " members out there still around .. I have listened to Noel solo and bdi first lp as well as the new stuff if either brother made that as there solo project I wpuld have been much more pleased ..... Jmo
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Post by live4everfessi on May 3, 2013 10:41:30 GMT -5
It would have been a great way to bring the curtain down on Oasis.
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Post by Deleted on May 3, 2013 10:46:51 GMT -5
It would have been a great way to bring the curtain down on Oasis. Much like everything else the Gallaghers have done since Morning Glory, people hated it at the time.
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Post by WirralRiddler on May 3, 2013 10:54:40 GMT -5
Only bad track is Little James, spoils it a bit. Not my favourite Oasis album, not even close but its still great.
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Post by Bruno on May 3, 2013 11:46:55 GMT -5
I love Standing On The Shoulder Of Giants, I remember when I was first discovering Oasis, this album felt so fresh and different. Loved it at the time and I still do. Great album and for the record I quite like Little James, never understood the hate for it. It's a nice little tune.
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Post by Headmaster on May 3, 2013 12:12:52 GMT -5
My favorite Oasis album and GP is my favorite Oasis song. LJ has good melody and PYMWYMI sounds great while you listen the whole album, the only track I can't stand is ICSAL.
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Post by Ash & Debris on May 3, 2013 12:25:36 GMT -5
Agreed with the OP, my only grip with the album is the tracklisting.
If you switch out LJ and ICSAL with LAMB and OWR then it's about as good as any Oasis album for me.
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Post by oneeye on May 3, 2013 12:31:39 GMT -5
I think you're wrong on that point . . . The album had NO soul.
I always liked GLIO, WDIAGW and SMC
But it just didnt do anything, it didnt have the energy at all, and you can here that in the songs - everything just feels lame!
The best that came from that period was GLIO, LAMB and FITB
as well as some amazing gigs!
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Post by The Invisible Sun on May 3, 2013 12:31:43 GMT -5
I love Standing On The Shoulder Of Giants, I remember when I was first discovering Oasis, this album felt so fresh and different. Loved it at the time and I still do. Great album and for the record I quite like Little James, never understood the hate for it. It's a nice little tune. Yeah, absolutely good tune. Just not really album worthy. If didn't fit with any of the other songs. Everyone knows it went on the album purely because it was Liam's first tune, or first descent tune. I love the effects put on the song, the instruments and digital tones. Also has some really good lyrics, albeit along with some very poor ones.
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Post by The Invisible Sun on May 3, 2013 12:33:31 GMT -5
My favorite Oasis album and GP is my favorite Oasis song. LJ has good melody and PYMWYMI sounds great while you listen the whole album, the only track I can't stand is ICSAL. YES! ICSAL sounds more like a demo. The production of the song is still gritty and not polished like everything else.
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Post by The Invisible Sun on May 3, 2013 12:39:55 GMT -5
I think you're wrong on that point . . . The album had NO soul. I always liked GLIO, WDIAGW and SMC But it just didnt do anything, it didnt have the energy at all, and you can here that in the songs - everything just feels lame! The best that came from that period was GLIO, LAMB and FITB as well as some amazing gigs! I guess I like it because it is different. I think it had the most soul of any Gallagher made album, it feels like they really worked on it to perfection, polishing everything. My opinion, of course. An album that I think has little to no soul on it would be High Flying Birds.
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Post by Deleted on May 3, 2013 12:51:45 GMT -5
Was never a fan when it first came out but after revisiting it a couple of years ago on vinyl i have totaly changed my mind. It's their most mature album think. Gas panic is probably my favourite on the record. Liams vocals are top notch.
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Post by oneeye on May 3, 2013 13:23:27 GMT -5
[/quote] I guess I like it because it is different. I think it had the most soul of any Gallagher made album, it feels like they really worked on it to perfection, polishing everything.
My opinion, of course. An album that I think has little to no soul on it would be High Flying Birds. [/quote]
Probably too different for me, especially after coming through the 90's with Oasis.
As an album, it would sit nicely by the side of DOYS, both musically and on the personal favs list at the bottom.
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Post by jordan71421 on May 3, 2013 13:51:52 GMT -5
I've always loved the sound of the album, it was produced really well. If the tracklisting would have been different like most have said, it would have been even better imo
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Post by nahuel89p on May 4, 2013 6:32:28 GMT -5
Tracks are so different in that album... it's not very cohesive.
By the time SOTSOG was released, nu metal and hip hop was the new hype, and many people perceived that Oasis were trying to be a copy of themselves in times of heavy changing trends. Go let it out was quite the opposite of the archetypical rock song of the moment. Soft, groovy, bland... Something similar happens with Who Feels Love and Sunday Morning Call. Each of these songs were leading singles.
It's a really good album honestly, but no wonder why it wasn't succesful.
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Post by Deleted on May 4, 2013 6:37:00 GMT -5
I've always thought this was the direction they should've gone towards, the sounds and some of the lyrics on here are pretty good, HC seems to me like too much of a step back after this one.
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Post by Lennon2217 on May 4, 2013 7:06:33 GMT -5
To me it sounds like a band falling apart and not knowing what the next step will be. Oasis was in a bad place at this time. The Be Here Now backlash put strain on Noel's bravado. He was also suffering from writers block and a marriage falling apart. Not to mention 2 founding members quit during recording sessions. It's a dark album, a dark album with good reasons and I find that aspect very interesting. It's definitely a unique Oasis experience for sure, especially coming off a wild mid 90s run of exuberance. I felt this cloud above the band right up till Heathen Chemistry came out.
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Post by Mr. Bigglesworth on May 4, 2013 7:13:52 GMT -5
for me its one of the best and most interesting albums by oasis, it was the most experimenting stuff they've done and i loved, that it seems, they tried to turn their back to britpop and try something different. cause Be here now, as much fun as it is, was just an album to pleasure the britpop hungry people out there. don't get me wrong i really like Be here now, but i think the step in the experimental direction should already have been made in the year 98. heathen chemistry is great too, but like some other guys here said, it was a step back into their safe zone, which was kind of dissapointing.
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Post by Headmaster on May 4, 2013 22:41:17 GMT -5
After SOTSOG I thought Oasis would go on an very experimental direction, but HC came out and I was very disappointed to hear that it was another samey sound Oasis record.
But it is also understable of why they choose to produce a back to basics sound with HC, cos in a way it was a debut of a new band with Gem and Andy, they wouldn't do a very experimental album with two new members I guess, I think Noel wanted to restart the band and see what contributions Gem and Andy had to offer to the band and then build a new Oasis sound with them.
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Post by Lennon2217 on May 4, 2013 22:55:46 GMT -5
After SOTSOG I thought Oasis would go on an very experimental direction, but HC came out and I was very disappointed to hear that it was another samey sound Oasis record. But it is also understable of why they choose to produce a back to basics sound with HC, cos in a way it was a debut of a new band with Gem and Andy, they wouldn't do a very experimental album with two new members I guess, I think Noel wanted to restart the band and see what contributions Gem and Andy had to offer to the band and then build a new Oasis sound with them. Sadly Andy and Gem wrote too few songs (that made records and singles). The ones that did bumped many Noel songs we all would have preferred on the albums. I always felt there could have been MORE during this second life of Oasis. Noel mentioned they had enough material for a double album after/during DBTT era. Prove it!
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Post by yearzero on May 4, 2013 23:11:55 GMT -5
I love SOTSOG. It's one of my top three Oasis albums, with Definitely Maybe and WTSMG. Gas Panic is one of the best songs Oasis has ever put out, in my opinion. It's severely underrated. In fact, SOTSOG as a whole is underrated--the general population obviously know about DM and WTSMG, and Be Here Now got the weight of Britpop put on it, with some claiming it was the funeral bell. And songs off of Heathen Chemistry got praise in reviews (eg The Hindu Times), DBTT was well-received generally, and DOYS was the last album, so of course it got press. But SOTSOG seems to have been forgotten. Lennon2217, I agree with what you say about the darker tone of this album. It's probably why I like it so much. As much as I love Oasis for the positive vibes and upbeat songs, there is something about the melancholy and darkness of songs like Gas Panic, and Where Did It All Go Wrong, that really appeal to me.
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