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Post by oasisshare on Jan 23, 2011 13:49:24 GMT -5
lol, can't believe this is still in discussion. I was a part of the "Mafia Board" as oasisshare and am wondering why exactly all this is still relevant? Almost forgot about how our undercover doings unleashed three great recordings (STC, STC live, Record Machine). Just glad those songs finally made it out of the tightly clenched grip of Lomax. PS- Will charge $1 for pete bone's identity. PS #2- Why exactly is the real identity of 'pete bones' still hidden at this point? I was also a member (Ben, former admin of The Soapbox). Everyone who was on there knew what was going on, shared ideas on how to go about it, and for the most part supported or just came along for the ride. When people were approached we were all told what was the deal. The goal of that forum was to get Lomax to give up his Stop The Clocks, which he never did. He won for lack of a better term. Yet, three years later is still carrying on about this. Every person on that forum was hand invited. People who ran things in the community, moderators from here (Jono was one Im sure) etc. And JP, you're off. The mafia board accomplished nothing aside from creating relationships among the hierarchy of former and current forums, share hubs, well established traders, etc. The mafia board was long gone and the group went their separate ways by the time Jamie's tracks leaked. Howdo was the only one who provided actual new material which I dont even remember the exacts of and were shared widespread the moment the mafia board was ended when Lomax brought the drama here looking for pity. Ben, good to hear from ya mate. Been a couple years. Yea, seems I was a bit off there on that. Hazy on the details of what went down as it's been a while, but regardless, it was great meeting a few of the more well known names out there in the Oasis online community. With that said, only just re-discovered soapbox yesterday. Still the same from what I can make of it!
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Post by timekeeper on Jan 23, 2011 14:27:21 GMT -5
We are having an Oasis Mafia Board reunion here! I was told that this is Pete Bones' myspace account: www.myspace.com/theshakerofcourseAnd here is Jamie performing live on youtube:
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Post by Mr. Monobrow on Jan 23, 2011 14:44:12 GMT -5
I was also a member (Ben, former admin of The Soapbox). Everyone who was on there knew what was going on, shared ideas on how to go about it, and for the most part supported or just came along for the ride. When people were approached we were all told what was the deal. The goal of that forum was to get Lomax to give up his Stop The Clocks, which he never did. He won for lack of a better term. Yet, three years later is still carrying on about this. Every person on that forum was hand invited. People who ran things in the community, moderators from here (Jono was one Im sure) etc. And JP, you're off. The mafia board accomplished nothing aside from creating relationships among the hierarchy of former and current forums, share hubs, well established traders, etc. The mafia board was long gone and the group went their separate ways by the time Jamie's tracks leaked. Howdo was the only one who provided actual new material which I dont even remember the exacts of and were shared widespread the moment the mafia board was ended when Lomax brought the drama here looking for pity. I'll go along with that. My memory is shot to bits these days, but I do recall that, although getting STC was the main goal, the forum was also aiming to get more stuff out of the hoarders hands. Small amounts of stuff did crop up and I think I put forward some minor rare stuff which I'd never seen anywhere else online. There's no reason why a fair trade couldn't have been done for STC if someone had piped up with a real gem. As it happens, the forum was all over by the time of the (very pleasant) studio version leak a few months later. Good job really, cos I think there'd have been a few more moments of unpleasantness had that not cropped up.
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Post by markantro on Jan 24, 2011 3:58:16 GMT -5
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Post by shoes222 on Apr 5, 2011 15:09:51 GMT -5
If we want to be technical, Lomax was on the scene several years beforehand trying to acquire the STC Zanzibar recording. He only became successful in acquiring it much later however.
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Post by timekeeper on Apr 5, 2011 15:15:42 GMT -5
If we want to be technical, Lomax was on the scene several years beforehand trying to acquire the STC Zanzibar recording. He only became successful in acquiring it much later however. Good memory, shoes. It took years to work myself into the inner group of people who run Zanzibar and who are regulars there. After getting STC live, I realized that the legend of STC was better than the track itself. But Jamie arrived a couple of months later and leaked the studio version, so everyone found out the same thing.
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Post by XTRMNTRSCREAM on Apr 5, 2011 15:19:29 GMT -5
If we want to be technical, Lomax was on the scene several years beforehand trying to acquire the STC Zanzibar recording. He only became successful in acquiring it much later however. Good memory, shoes. It took years to work myself into the inner group of people who run Zanzibar and who are regulars there. After getting STC live, I realized that the legend of STC was better than the track itself. But Jamie arrived a couple of months later and leaked the studio version, so everyone found out the same thing. how is songbird mountain?
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Post by timekeeper on Apr 5, 2011 15:28:00 GMT -5
how is songbird mountain? Excellent. I was just there about 3 weeks ago or so. I didn't know you were interested in Death Valley, so thanks for asking.
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Post by shoofee on Apr 5, 2011 18:08:39 GMT -5
If we want to be technical, Lomax was on the scene several years beforehand trying to acquire the STC Zanzibar recording. He only became successful in acquiring it much later however. Good memory, shoes. It took years to work myself into the inner group of people who run Zanzibar and who are regulars there. After getting STC live, I realized that the legend of STC was better than the track itself. But Jamie arrived a couple of months later and leaked the studio version, so everyone found out the same thing. Jamie didn't leak the studio version. I did. under this name on this forum: live4ever.proboards.com/index.cgi?action=viewprofile&user=zipadeedodaI received STC, RM, and Nothing On Me the day Jamie first came on the scene, which was at The Soapbox first. He shared them with one person on there, who shared them with me later that night. He also attempted to share with Rolli, but that was aborted. I don't know how/why that was aborted as I was out that evening and got an urgent message when I got in and then was filled in second hand. The next day, I was brought into conversations with Jamie and he shared more of the tracks with me including the LDSMD with Liam on vox amongst others off of that disc. He had no idea that I already had STC, RM, and Nothing on Me. He did share Nothing On Me with me as well and I played dumb. I kept my mouth shut about what I had (unlike you) and waited to see what Jamie wanted to do as no one was sure exactly what he had, which was the only reason the leak was held off on in case there were other songs to be shared. He then somehow got linked up with you and days passed with no word other than one three way conversation I was in on with Rolli, Jamie, and someone else, but it was nothing but stupid bickering and threats. A few nights later with absolutely no word on the situation other than the tracklisting being the demos and regular DBTT stuff, I let them out, 15 minutes later you let out STC live on STC.org, and everything blew up in the next few days with everything getting out through whoever had them, as Jamie shared quite a few with people, but only shared STC with two people I am certain of. He never shared STC with me. The end. That is the entire story of how STC, both versions, were leaked. The entire story is now out there. Its time to drop this completely and leave it alone. Everyone during that time was wrong in one way or another and it should've and could've been handled so much better from the get go. Frank/Steve, you were wrong the way you touted your discovery and held it over everyone's head which is the only reason you were treated the way you were treated. Yet, you took it a step further, creating forums under Bones' name and starting shit with Jamie long after the fact i.e. how you were fed a fake track/info and posted it on here like you were doing everyone a favor. I was wrong for getting involved in that petty mafia forum. Its fucking over. Let it die. Jamie leaked nothing. He just came into a situation that was completely over his head. Once he came online, the tracks were getting out there one way or another.
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Post by XTRMNTRSCREAM on Apr 5, 2011 18:23:40 GMT -5
ben is right for the most part although i was the one that forced everyone hand by posting a demo or alternate mix of turn up the sun. this got the ball rolling and put mass pressure on jamie.
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Post by shoofee on Apr 5, 2011 18:31:10 GMT -5
ben is right for the most part although i was the one that forced everyone hand by posting a demo or alternate mix of turn up the sun. this got the ball rolling and put mass pressure on jamie. Yes. Jamie went a bit mental at this point and I only heard via you (Rolli) about him and Lomax's battles. I sat back and waited and then one night just said, "fuck it". Out they went.
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Post by XTRMNTRSCREAM on Apr 5, 2011 18:36:00 GMT -5
i honestly don't believe he is in the 'inner circle' my personal opinion is that he is good friends with someone who is friends with the band.
my expectations have been tempered for the record now that i believe marcus russell is some how influencing it creatively. they should of dumped him for u2 manager years ago.
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Post by shoofee on Apr 5, 2011 18:40:05 GMT -5
i honestly don't believe he is in the 'inner circle' my personal opinion is that he is good friends with someone who is friends with the band. my expectations have been tempered for the record now that i believe marcus russell is some how influencing it creatively. they should of dumped him for u2 manager years ago. Jamie stole the disc. He told us all that. He waited until his mate was drunk and then ripped it. I agree with you, but I know for a fact that whoever he knows is close to part of the band. Whether thats management, crew, or whatever, I have no idea, but he is definitely on a first name basis with at least Liam. I'm still excited for whatever Noel puts out. There is not one musician on the planet that I feel that way about right now and have for almost 17 years (fucking hell). Even Marcus' influence in respect to the lead singles of the last two records, turned out to be decent enough tunes. Theres too much we dont know to make any concrete estimation until we hear something.
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Post by deadman on Apr 5, 2011 18:55:59 GMT -5
For fucks sake, why is everyone retreading the DBTT Demos and Mafia board storiesfrom 5 years ago? Who cares anymore, what new event has sparked this off?
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Post by Rifles on Apr 5, 2011 19:01:42 GMT -5
Why can't the "insiders" be decent, somewhat competent human beings? Instead we get stuck with these idiots.
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Post by timekeeper on Apr 5, 2011 19:24:18 GMT -5
Hey Pete Bones,
Just out of curiosity, how long did it take you to make up the whole Mustique Tape fake tracklisting and in depth lengthy fake descriptions? I'd imagine like 5 hours or more. You put a lot of effort into that fraud.
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Post by shoofee on Apr 5, 2011 19:33:56 GMT -5
Hey Pete Bones, Just out of curiosity, how long did it take you to make up the whole Mustique Tape fake tracklisting and in depth lengthy fake descriptions? I'd imagine like 5 hours or more. You put a lot of effort into that fraud. How long have you been carrying on about this entire situation? For three years you've carried on about a situation which cost you nothing but time invested when we were talking. You didnt give up the track, kudos man, we put the pressure on and you didnt flinch. Once that was determined, it was over. We accepted that you werent going to budge and that was it for 99% of us with Rolli being the only one who kept contact with you or at least the line open. Here we are three years later and this is the only thing you fucking talk about. You want to talk about time and energy invested? Look in a mirror. Yet, I still had STC studio before you at no cost, and only after that was out publicly did you even bother. Once Jamie was on the scene, your prized possession you held over everyone's head like an albatross, thinking it would bring you glory or whatever, was worthless. Go back and read my posts I made to you during that timeframe under this name that I am posting this. The only goal we had "the mafia forum" was to get the material out there for all. As I told you privately, had you shared STC live with any of us, it'd have been spread within minutes and the only reason was the way you handled yourself. Ask Howdo. Ask Monobrow. Ask Rolli. Ask Chris. Ask JONO. Ask two-rok. They all knew. They all understood what was going on. It took about a half hour to comprise that post with help from a few of the other members since we had a section where we brainstormed everything that you couldnt access. There is none to very little information about Mustique out there, so it was pretty easy to wing it.
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Post by timekeeper on Apr 5, 2011 19:39:09 GMT -5
It took about a half hour to comprise that post with help from a few of the other members since we had a section where we brainstormed everything that you couldnt access. There is none to very little information about Mustique out there, so it was pretty easy to wing it. Thanks for answering the question, Pete Bones. So how are Howdo, Mick Dude and sevenleaf doing these days?
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Post by XTRMNTRSCREAM on Apr 5, 2011 19:44:31 GMT -5
yeah mr. hall i helped comprise the fake track-listing.
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Post by timekeeper on Apr 5, 2011 19:46:26 GMT -5
Rollinice, you helped create the list and descriptions of the fake Mustique Tape that Pete Bones (sameole) claimed he had received and promised to share with us on the Mafia Board?
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Post by shoofee on Apr 5, 2011 19:52:54 GMT -5
It took about a half hour to comprise that post with help from a few of the other members since we had a section where we brainstormed everything that you couldnt access. There is none to very little information about Mustique out there, so it was pretty easy to wing it. Thanks for answering the question, Pete Bones. So how are Howdo, Mick Dude and sevenleaf doing these days? No idea. I assume they're well, the majority of them are members here. Most are all active in one way or another. I only speak to them in passing and usually it has nothing to do with Oasis. As for Mick Dude, I didnt even know him other than who he was and what he has uncovered/remastered in the past. Rolli brought him on board I believe, or one of the others. As for Mustique, no one knows other than whoever has it. There is very little info on it. www.mrmonobrow.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/behere.htmThat is still really the most information on it that Ive seen. Like I told you last week, I dont care about this stuff anymore and since the STC leak, I havent cared in the slightest. I will say one thing about the Mustique tape, it was rarely if EVER talked about regularly prior to the mafia forum and all this bullshit. Only the hardcore of the hardcore really knew of it (i.e. Monobrow). Since the mafia forum, its more widely known, so hopefully someone will happen upon it someday with there being knowledge of it.
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Post by timekeeper on Apr 5, 2011 19:55:31 GMT -5
Hey great point. So the Mafia Board and your fake Mustique Tape description which leaked and caused a stir for a while actually served some good purpose. Maybe we will get it someday. I wish Jamie knew somebody who had it.
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Post by shoofee on Apr 5, 2011 20:09:39 GMT -5
Hey great point. So the Mafia Board and your fake Mustique Tape description which leaked and caused a stir for a while actually served some good purpose. Maybe we will get it someday. I wish Jamie knew somebody who had it. The link to Mustique info is from Monobrow's site and I believe existed before all of this. Do you still have the fake tracklisting? But yea, I do think that may end up being a positive side effect. The Mustique tape is now known by most people, at least in a small way. Mono's page is still the most info on it Ive ever seen and Ive never even heard it mentioned otherwise. My guess is Noel and/or Marcus are the only ones who have it. Maybe Alan McGee. Its pre-BHN, so its 1996. It may be lost for all we know.
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Post by OasisKid99 on Apr 5, 2011 20:45:00 GMT -5
Well, you'd be the expert on that I truly feel sorry for xtrmntrscream. It's very apparent his childhood was not too fair to him. Instead of adding to his pain and suffering, I choose to ignore his sorry excuse for human interaction. But I digress, like I said, it's probably not his fault.
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Post by dc on Apr 5, 2011 20:55:47 GMT -5
u mad?
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