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Post by Level 03 on Oct 9, 2009 23:18:53 GMT -5
certainly not for a stadium (why not ?) this guy is magic cant wait for the solo album. A lot of people from a french forum about Oasis said it was the best "Oasis" live they seen... Why not ? Liam is over.... Can't wait to see Noel stuff and live. Theotihucan was perfect... The only problem... I wont see Noel in a Wembley Arena... It's gonna be in little "circus". A fucking hard way to get a ticket.
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Post by pepin on Oct 10, 2009 0:16:44 GMT -5
I don't entirely disagree, but Theotihucan was not as different as people here have been making it out to be lately. It's pretty much just Keep What Ya Got without the vocals.
I look forward to Noel's solo record. I'm just hoping the songs don't all sound the same...
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Post by Beady’s Here Now on Oct 10, 2009 0:27:44 GMT -5
Noel is brilliant and all that, but to disregard the importance of Gem, Andy, and Liam is just wrong.
Noel solo will never be as big, as important, or as cultural significant as Oasis.
For Noel personally it may be a step forward, but as a career move, it's a MASSIVE step back.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 10, 2009 1:02:00 GMT -5
I don't entirely disagree, but Theotihucan was not as different as people here have been making it out to be lately. It's pretty much just Keep What Ya Got without the vocals. I look forward to Noel's solo record. I'm just hoping the songs don't all sound the same... Well, err, that's cos Keep What Ya Got was a re-working of Teotihuacan around six years after the fact.
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Post by pepin on Oct 10, 2009 1:07:09 GMT -5
I don't entirely disagree, but Theotihucan was not as different as people here have been making it out to be lately. It's pretty much just Keep What Ya Got without the vocals. I look forward to Noel's solo record. I'm just hoping the songs don't all sound the same... Well, err, that's cos Keep What Ya Got was a re-working of Teotihuacan around six years after the fact. Yeah, but since he barely had to change it, it obviously isn't that different from a typical Oasis song. IMO, something like Idler's Dream is much more of a departure from the norm.
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Post by LlAM on Oct 10, 2009 7:17:11 GMT -5
Well, err, that's cos Keep What Ya Got was a re-working of Teotihuacan around six years after the fact. Yeah, but since he barely had to change it, it obviously isn't that different from a typical Oasis song. IMO, something like Idler's Dream is much more of a departure from the norm. And his solo material is gonna sound more like Theotihucan than Idler's Dream isn't it?
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Post by matt on Oct 10, 2009 11:11:03 GMT -5
Noel is brilliant and all that, but to disregard the importance of Gem, Andy, and Liam is just wrong. Noel solo will never be as big, as important, or as cultural significant as Oasis. For Noel personally it may be a step forward, but as a career move, it's a MASSIVE step back. Oasis haven't been culturally significant in years for God's sake. If a Noel solo album is better quality than Oasis albums of late, that's all that matters. Who gives a fuck if it isn't big like Oasis?
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Post by His Royal Noelness on Oct 10, 2009 12:08:50 GMT -5
Can we make it so that NL4E gets a mild electrical shock everytime he uses the phrase "culturaly significant"
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Post by Deleted on Oct 10, 2009 12:30:05 GMT -5
I will only listen to music that is culturally significant. I refuse to listen to anything that is culturally insignificant.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 10, 2009 12:46:01 GMT -5
I will only listen to music that is culturally significant. I refuse to listen to anything that is culturally insignificant. all music is "culturally significant". music changes enviroments, people, colors. even the guys that are starting a band are significant these days, because of the internet. just open your ears a little bit and you'll be amazed
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Post by korky on Oct 10, 2009 12:46:59 GMT -5
Well, err, that's cos Keep What Ya Got was a re-working of Teotihuacan around six years after the fact. Yeah, but since he barely had to change it, it obviously isn't that different from a typical Oasis song. IMO, something like Idler's Dream is much more of a departure from the norm. Ian Brown sampled Teotihuacan, then asked Noel to play on it. It wasn't a case of Noel reworking it for Ian Brown.
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Post by Headmaster on Oct 10, 2009 13:56:01 GMT -5
I will only listen to music that is culturally significant. I refuse to listen to anything that is culturally insignificant. So be far far away from DOYS, is a great album but is culturally insignificant as hell. huaheuhaeuhuaheuhauehaueh
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Post by pepin on Oct 10, 2009 16:34:51 GMT -5
Cultural significance is an effect of music, not a cause of it. Oasis was culturally significant because of the changes they brought about (decline of grunge, etc. in the UK), not because they reflected the time period before them (in fact, they defied it). An album's cultural significance is more an indicator of its originality than anything else.
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Post by pepin on Oct 10, 2009 16:40:00 GMT -5
Yeah, but since he barely had to change it, it obviously isn't that different from a typical Oasis song. IMO, something like Idler's Dream is much more of a departure from the norm. Ian Brown sampled Teotihuacan, then asked Noel to play on it. It wasn't a case of Noel reworking it for Ian Brown. Noel wrote Keep What Ya Got as an Oasis song, but he felt it was more suited to Ian Brown's voice than his or Liam's. It was his idea:
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Post by seteluas on Oct 11, 2009 8:36:44 GMT -5
certainly not for a stadium (why not ?) this guy is magic cant wait for the solo album. A lot of people from a french forum about Oasis said it was the best "Oasis" live they seen... Why not ? Liam is over.... Can't wait to see Noel stuff and live. Theotihucan was perfect... The only problem... I wont see Noel in a Wembley Arena... It's gonna be in little "circus". A fucking hard way to get a ticket. Agree, simple but sooo beautiful
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Post by Deleted on Oct 11, 2009 11:36:07 GMT -5
My "culturally significant" comment was, like, umm, meant to be taken ironically.
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Post by Headmaster on Oct 11, 2009 12:56:51 GMT -5
My "culturally significant" comment was, like, umm, meant to be taken ironically. My quote on your comment was ironic too.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 11, 2009 18:22:17 GMT -5
My "culturally significant" comment was, like, umm, meant to be taken ironically. sorry, didn't realized ;D
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Post by Rita on Oct 12, 2009 4:27:55 GMT -5
Isn't he gonna get bored, just sitting there for hours every gig in an entire tour? I mean..it's great when you do it a few times like he did when he was with Oasis, but I do hope it will get a little bit more exciting than that... If not, at the end he will miss Oasis MADLY.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 12, 2009 4:58:39 GMT -5
My "culturally significant" comment was, like, umm, meant to be taken ironically. My quote on your comment was ironic too. Postmodernism is alive and well on the Internet.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 12, 2009 8:28:51 GMT -5
My quote on your comment was ironic too. Postmodernism is alive and well on the Internet. haha
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Post by seanzie on Oct 14, 2009 10:10:00 GMT -5
NL4E, the Oasis crusader, swoops in to leave his usual bullshit comment. Yes, we get it, you love Oasis.
Noel's last acoustic tour with Gem was one of Oasis' (if you want to classify it as being an Oasis tour) best tours ever, but that doesn't mean his album is going to be nothing but him hunched over a mic, strumming an acoustic. Noel does a lot of the production on Oasis albums anyways. The man is dynamite with any and all instruments and studio buttons. He'll make all of us proud, and make Liam feel like a fool.
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Post by webm@ster on Oct 14, 2009 10:42:32 GMT -5
Noel is brilliant and all that, but to disregard the importance of Gem, Andy, and Liam is just wrong. Noel solo will never be as big, as important, or as cultural significant as Oasis. For Noel personally it may be a step forward, but as a career move, it's a MASSIVE step back. are my eyes deceiving me? a complete post from you with out an insult.....wow
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Post by matt on Oct 14, 2009 11:25:48 GMT -5
My "culturally significant" comment was, like, umm, meant to be taken ironically. Hey, I got it straight away? Do I get a cookie?
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Post by NYR on Oct 14, 2009 14:17:51 GMT -5
I will only listen to music that is culturally significant. I refuse to listen to anything that is culturally insignificant. all music is "culturally significant". music changes enviroments, people, colors. even the guys that are starting a band are significant these days, because of the internet. just open your ears a little bit and you'll be amazed +k. that's what it's all about.
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