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Post by Deleted on Oct 28, 2005 19:03:42 GMT -5
The Iraq war and its aftermath cost the UK almost £3.1bn up to the end of March this year, new figures from the Ministry of Defence (MoD) reveal. The ministry's annual report shows troops' operations in Iraq cost £910m in the last financial year, compared to £847m in 2002/3 and £1.3bn in 2003/4.
Overall, the MoD spent £30.88bn in the year to March, including £67m in Afghanistan and £87m in the Balkans.
Opponents of the Iraq war say an astonishing sum has been spent on it.
Andrew Burgin, from the Stop The War Coalition, said: "It is a huge amount and every pound has been misspent and could have been better spent on schools and hospitals.
"It is a complete waste of money and resources - and a waste of human life on an illegal, unpopular and immoral war."
But a Ministry of Defence spokesman said: "We believe that the operations in Iraq were the right actions to rid the world of a very dangerous dictator."
The costs of the conflict in Iraq essentially come from government contingency reserves.
Ministers say remarkable political progress has been made in Iraq, with a new constitution approved in a referendum, and that security is also improving.
from bbc.co.uk
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Post by lyla on Nov 17, 2005 6:19:28 GMT -5
interesting. ha ha, like they'd admit they were wrong. there are dangerous dictators in toher countries too, so why dont they get over that argument? or at least, be consistent and rid the rest of the worlds tyrranical dictators. it really is an obscene amouunt of money
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Post by Mogly on Nov 22, 2005 21:54:47 GMT -5
democracy won't be successful in a country where people don't wanna live in a democratic system and the Iraq's case shows it. their society is strongly influenced by religion and customs that have been around a lot more than the US this war is bollox. today I saw the UN say over 6 million kids die each year because of hunger, just in Latin America there are over 50 million children with hunger, I don't know about Africa or southern Asia but the global number could well be near 100 million. meanwhile there are over 50 million americans with overweight problems and their dumb president got into a war he'll have a lot of trouble getting out from. do you think it's reasonable to think that the UK has spent such an amount of money on war, probably the US has spent a lot more, and people are die because thay have nothing to eat? this shows how the war has ethical, moral and political problems. fuck sorry for the rant, I could go on and on, it pisses me off
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Post by webm@ster on Nov 22, 2005 23:49:11 GMT -5
maybe South America should contribute 1% of it's profits from drug trade towards the general hunger problem....
oops , did I just say that?
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Post by Mogly on Nov 22, 2005 23:57:48 GMT -5
webby did you know that 85% of the profits from drug traffic stay in the north american economy? did you know that after the US invasion to Afghanistan illicit crops have grown in over 500%? here there's a lot of talk that from the american military base in colombian jungle there are a lot of US air force planes that go to the US full of coke. so don't blame it on us. the business is owned and aadministered by americans, more specifically the DEA. that's what pisses me off, we get all the bad reputation but it's the fucking americans that control the business, the fucking faux and double morality is what pisses me off.... if you want any more info just ask
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Post by webm@ster on Nov 23, 2005 0:03:10 GMT -5
I am not a scholar in US - South American trade and social relations. I don't have any percentage numbers und you will never see me post percentage numbers. I work for a big news division and I still steer away from them. I like playing the devils advocate in discussions, it's what keeps people thinking and their interest in posts. thanks for posting your thoughts.
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Post by lionsden® on Nov 23, 2005 0:05:01 GMT -5
here there's a lot of talk that from the american military base in colombian jungle there are a lot of US air force planes that go to the US full of coke. so don't blame it on us. the business is owned and aadministered by americans, more specifically the DEA. that's what pisses me off, we get all the bad reputation but it's the fucking americans that control the business, the fucking faux and double morality is what pisses me off.... if you want any more info just ask That is a ridiculous comment. Please give some evidence to back that up.
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Post by Mogly on Nov 23, 2005 0:05:46 GMT -5
yeah webby no prob, cheers!!
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Post by Mogly on Nov 23, 2005 0:17:12 GMT -5
here there's a lot of talk that from the american military base in colombian jungle there are a lot of US air force planes that go to the US full of coke. so don't blame it on us. the business is owned and aadministered by americans, more specifically the DEA. that's what pisses me off, we get all the bad reputation but it's the fucking americans that control the business, the fucking faux and double morality is what pisses me off.... if you want any more info just ask That is a ridiculous comment. Please give some evidence to back that up. why is it ridiculous. do you think there would be as much poverty as there is here if all the US 55 bill aprox. that the coke business produces each year stayed in colombia? I really don't think so.... and dig up a bit about the situation in Afghanistan I even read about it in some American publication but I don't remember which, I look for it and tell you about it. but believe me it's not that ridiculous, of course I don't have the evidence to prove american airplanes leave the country full of coke (if I had it I'd be in deep shit by now) and land in jfk but I heard it from a retired colombian army general. my grandpa is a retired general so sometimes I get to talk to important people like that...
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Post by lionsden® on Nov 23, 2005 0:37:09 GMT -5
That is a ridiculous comment. Please give some evidence to back that up. why is it ridiculous. do you think there would be as much poverty as there is here if all the US 55 bill aprox. that the coke business produces each year stayed in colombia? I really don't think so.... and dig up a bit about the situation in Afghanistan I even read about it in some American publication but I don't remember which, I look for it and tell you about it. but believe me it's not that ridiculous, of course I don't have the evidence to prove american airplanes leave the country full of coke (if I had it I'd be in deep shit by now) and land in jfk but I heard it from a retired colombian army general. my grandpa is a retired general so sometimes I get to talk to important people like that... Don't know where you are going with the 55 bil thing. I don't see any of that money. My brother doesn't. My friends don't Don't see how it helps our economy. My comment was directed at your comment about US planes loaded with coke
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Post by Mogly on Nov 23, 2005 0:46:59 GMT -5
yeah well about the planes I have no evidence but what I read in some magazines and what a retired general says, but what I do know is the US installed a radar that holds control over the whole air territory of colombia and there is no way any kind of airplane can fly through the country without it being noticed by the radar, I read about the plane landing on jfk on the most important political magazine here, it's called"Semana"....
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Post by Mogly on Nov 23, 2005 0:52:13 GMT -5
about the percentage of money that stays in the US I have been told a lot of times by a lot of different people. But just think about it this way, ehat does a gram of coke cost in the US? about US 120? in colombia I have no idea of what it costs but I assume it's a lot less so all the money the dealer in the US makes stays in the US and is already clean money, it's already passed through all the laundry process
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Post by nyr401994 on Dec 24, 2005 23:51:23 GMT -5
maybe South America should contribute 1% of it's profits from drug trade towards the general hunger problem.... oops , did I just say that? OH SNAP! haha go webby! ;D
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