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Post by Beady’s Here Now on Oct 28, 2024 10:09:09 GMT -5
Equals Pequals.
I think the easy answer is Liam, due to the scale of his own personal resurrection, but let’s not look past Noel’s efforts as well. Although Liam wins with enthusiasm, that’s for sure. I mean, technically Liam had the better solo career, but yeah…. I’m not picking sides, both were successful in different ways.
*Excluding Beady Eye. Liam solo started in 2017.
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Post by eva Fawkes on Oct 28, 2024 10:20:24 GMT -5
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Post by shannee on Oct 28, 2024 10:21:58 GMT -5
Actually feeling a little sad we won’t be hearing any of Noel’s solo songs in the foreseeable future
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Post by Beady’s Here Now on Oct 28, 2024 10:55:41 GMT -5
Actually feeling a little sad we won’t be hearing any of Noel’s solo songs in the foreseeable future We will. The mythical defiant rock eighth album. (Edit. I see you specified solo. My bad).
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Post by Flashbax on Oct 28, 2024 12:08:21 GMT -5
Noel had far better songs, but he isn’t really a frontman. While Liam’s coverband was awful, they sort of got it right in the end. And of course Liam had the bigger gigs, but that’s just because people prefer Oasis to one of the brothers, and Liam went for Oasis.
Noel’s albums mean much more to me than Liam’s. To me As You Were is the only real solo album, because of Liam’s involvement in the writing process. But the other ones are forgettable.
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Post by tiger40 on Oct 28, 2024 12:52:17 GMT -5
Liam definitely.
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Post by Diamond in The Dark on Oct 28, 2024 13:23:43 GMT -5
Of all Noel's solo albums, I consider only 13/15 songs good.
In Liam's solo albums + Beady Eye I consider at least 30 to be good.
Both played Oasis songs in their respective concerts.People chose Liam much more than Noel.
Noel Gallagher himself said that Liam had a better solo career than him.
Regardless of our opinions, it is objective that in the "After Oasis" Liam was more successful between the two.
That's all.
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Post by Goosey on Oct 28, 2024 13:38:44 GMT -5
100% Liam
Did so much more in half the time.
More surprise releases, live albums, a proper collaboration effort. He wasn’t scared to try things. Knebworth, the barge, one love. Connected to the youth in a way that is unfathomable.
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Post by LlAM on Oct 28, 2024 15:36:12 GMT -5
Noel by far. He managed to create a great diverse catalogue of tunes and wasn't afraid to try new stuff aka Who Built The Moon and the EPs. Chasing Yesterday being one of my favourite albums. He lacked some frontmanship on the live scene compared to Liam though.
Liam's career (including BE) was diverse too, but mainly due to having different songwriters and different constellations of crew members. He did have a few great tunes One Of Us, Once and Wall Of Glass are some of my favourites but mostly none of it got under my skin. He wins on frontmanship though.
Hey, they should perhaps try to make an album together, wonder how it would sound 🤷♂️
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Post by The Crimson Rambler on Oct 28, 2024 16:29:36 GMT -5
As great as it is to see Liam in a better place post-Beady Eye on the whole the songs he's been releasing solo have been below-par. Consider myself officially not a fan. Noel's songs on average have been leagues above.
1. NGHFB 2. Chasing Yesterday 3. Who Built the Moon? 4. Council Skies 5. As You Were 6. Why Me? Why Not? 7. C'mon You Know
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Post by matt on Oct 28, 2024 17:31:00 GMT -5
Generally agree about Noel's lack of frontman ability. He's not got the voice, captivating presence and charisma to maintain a full album. Who Built The Moon works because, in addition to his vocals, there's rich textured soundscapes to dig your teeth into in addition to the songs sounding fresh and invigorating. All his other solo albums sadly suffer from a blandness and mid tempo plod in the production front. Liam's voice is always dynamite and there are a good number of gems scattered throughout his solo albums, albeit more inconsistent following As You Were.
---BRILLIANT TIER--- Who Built The Moon
---VERY GOOD TIER--- NGHFB/As You Were Council Skies
--- DECENT TIER--- Cmon You Know Why Me Why Not
---SHIT TIER--- Chasing Yesterday (barring Riverman & Song Remains)
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Post by Terrasolo on Oct 28, 2024 18:57:02 GMT -5
Noel by a mile.
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Post by The-Ghost-Dancer on Oct 28, 2024 19:28:44 GMT -5
for coming back from the disaster that was beady eye to selling out stadiums and doing knebworth again and numerous albums live albums, the thames gig the squire collab etc etc im gonna say Liam, his 3 studio lps are solid but then again when comes to pure creativity i got to say Noel WBTM and the "cosmic pop" and EPs were all brilliant and showed us a side to the man we never knew existed which was a nice change
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Post by settingson on Oct 29, 2024 1:50:00 GMT -5
Noel by far, because he actually had a solo career.
Liam had a go for a while, but ended up as an Oasis tribute band (which is not to be sniffed at)
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Post by andymorris on Oct 29, 2024 2:55:31 GMT -5
Beady Eye does not count : Noel because he did it all himself. where would Liam be without his army ?
There's not even a comparison to be made. Noel took risks, Liam went to the dark side of music;
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Post by Diamond in The Dark on Oct 29, 2024 7:53:09 GMT -5
Beady Eye does not count : Noel because he did it all himself. where would Liam be without his army ? There's not even a comparison to be made. Noel took risks, Liam went to the dark side of music; Don't think Noel did it all by himself. 85% of what Noel has released in terms of arrangements is the result of Amorphous Androgynous and David Holmes.
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Post by thespiderandthefly on Oct 29, 2024 9:07:39 GMT -5
Artistically, Noel
Commercially, Liam
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Post by GlastoEls on Oct 29, 2024 14:55:32 GMT -5
Artistically, Noel Commercially, Liam And you can trace this right back to Wibbling Rivalry. Noel is the product genius, Liam is the master salesman.
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Post by Sadie on Oct 29, 2024 15:21:24 GMT -5
Artistically, Noel Commercially, Liam This. No more needs to be said frankly
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Post by walkersafc on Oct 29, 2024 16:36:33 GMT -5
Liam gave the fans what they wanted liive which was Oasis . He was the closest you could get to seeing Oasis live. He’s a great frontman hence the big demand to see him live. I really enjoyed his first album and Once but apart from that there was nothing great. If liam had played 5 oasis songs and all solo stuff he wouldn’t be selling anymore tickets than Noel.
Noels first album had some really good tunes but awful production spoilt it. The rest of his solo albums were of a good standard although they didn’t set the world on fire. The demand to see him live dropped because he was too stubborn and pushed his solo material more at his gigs and at some gigs only did 5 oasis songs. His last tour/gigs he increased the number of oasis songs as I think him and his management knew he was struggling to sell tickets. How can you play The Mighty Quinn when you have all those oasis songs you could play? His setlists were also boring and repetitive.
It would have been interesting to see how many tickets noel could sell if he played nearly all oasis? I don’t think he could sell out knebworth but i think would have sold out arenas no problem.
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Post by eva Fawkes on Oct 29, 2024 16:44:46 GMT -5
Artistically, Noel Commercially, Liam This. No more needs to be said frankly We need to talk about their cats, obviously…. God bless
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Post by underneaththesky on Oct 29, 2024 17:24:12 GMT -5
ANDY BEE
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Post by shannee on Oct 29, 2024 17:50:29 GMT -5
Artistically, Noel Commercially, Liam In the Uk maybe but worldwide Noel was much more commercially successful. Liam solo barely made a blip in the US unfortunately
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Post by andymorris on Oct 30, 2024 6:05:56 GMT -5
Beady Eye does not count : Noel because he did it all himself. where would Liam be without his army ? There's not even a comparison to be made. Noel took risks, Liam went to the dark side of music; Don't think Noel did it all by himself. 85% of what Noel has released in terms of arrangements is the result of Amorphous Androgynous and David Holmes. That's what producers are for. But its not 85% since two of his LPs, and the EPs are self produced. it leaves a few tracks on CY and all of WBTM. Far from shameful ! That said i'm glad Noel and Liam are stopping, both career weren't going in the right direction (bar Liam = Squire which is great)
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Post by surrealneil on Oct 30, 2024 6:22:54 GMT -5
Musically speaking, I'd probably say Noel. Not really a big fan of his solo work simply because i dont like his voice but it's him being himself and doing his own thing.
Liam's solo career has been run like a typical pop star of today, down to the songwriting teams. I'm not knocking it, I think it was necessary to get him back to where he is. I just never felt a connection to it. A lot of those songs sound like they were written for someome else to sing and dont suit him. A lot of it is garbage.
Liam certainly puts on a better gig, but we all knew that anyway. He's simply a better front man.
That's why I'd just rather Oasis make music. I don't really think Noel's voice is good enough to carry a full album. And if it's Oasis, it'll sound like songs actually written for Liam to sing rather than a song a production team has come up with that they'd probably send out to artists and see who wants it. I think most on here would say those songs are shite if Liam wasn't singing them
Although I don't think the Liam and Squire thing was anything special, at least the songs were written by someone who gets the essence of Liam and it showed. I don't think Liam's other albums really did capture it.
That's why I'd say Noel has had a better solo career in terms of the records.
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