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Post by FELAIN on Sept 23, 2024 5:03:32 GMT -5
And how was he at the malta gig?
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Post by oasisserbia on Sept 23, 2024 5:14:18 GMT -5
Yeah but it's still the same shit. It's not. The chance of the him in those years taking on Headshrinker, Rockin Chair, Roll It Over to name a few, would have been zero. Yes, there is improvement - he can sing some notes now that he couldn't a few years ago, but for me, in general, he still sounds really bad. It's like you've slightly improved at playing the guitar and learned a few more things but your tone is still awful and the sound coming out of the amplifier is still unpleasant to the ear, even though you're playing technically better. I attended Liam's gig and it's a whole different experience when you are there, you just let go and enjoy and his voice has that strength and energy that can make thousands of people go crazy. He is great at that. I'm just saying that, for me, it's still not a pleasant sound, in the sense that you sit in front of the TV, play Liam's gig and enjoy it. Actually, what you hear is quite unpleasant most of the time. But, you know, it is more like punk, it is more like rave parties, it is not meant for formal ceremonies or for families to sit in front of the TV and enjoy. However, since he appears at such events, we cannot ignore the fact that it doesn't sound good.
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Post by freddy838 on Sept 23, 2024 5:20:29 GMT -5
And how was he at the malta gig? Sounded good on the videos I've seen
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Post by oasisserbia on Sept 23, 2024 5:24:02 GMT -5
Liam doesn't know how to sing. It's been like that for 25 years. The improvement over the last few years has been minimal and essentially unnoticeable. On the other hand, this doesn't mean Liam couldn't be better. He simply lacks the feel and style for singing - all he knows is how to shout and he's obviously too stubborn to take advice from someone else. what are you talking about? What I’m talking about is that it still isn’t good singing. Yes, we like it because we are Oasis fans, and yes, it’s an improvement compared to the late 2000s and early 2010s, but this still can’t be called good singing and it sounds more or less the same as it has for the past 25 years. Occasionally, he might hit a note that he couldn’t 15 years ago, but essentially, it sounds exactly the same. Play that video to someone who doesn't know about Oasis and Liam, but understands music, and ask them what they think about his singing.
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Post by andymorris on Sept 23, 2024 5:38:39 GMT -5
+ the jonathan ross performance is mimed, nothing has changed on that front
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Post by Supersonic on Sept 23, 2024 5:43:46 GMT -5
+ the jonathan ross performance is mimed, nothing has changed on that front No it was not mimed. Bringing back scarf gate are we?
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Post by tomlivesforever on Sept 23, 2024 5:46:06 GMT -5
+ the jonathan ross performance is mimed, nothing has changed on that front 😂
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Post by tomlivesforever on Sept 23, 2024 5:47:48 GMT -5
And how was he at the malta gig? Sounded good on the videos I've seen I would say that sounds good
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Post by andymorris on Sept 23, 2024 5:51:07 GMT -5
+ the jonathan ross performance is mimed, nothing has changed on that front 😂
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Post by oasisserbia on Sept 23, 2024 5:53:14 GMT -5
+ the jonathan ross performance is mimed, nothing has changed on that front He is shouting for the past 25 years. Sometimes with less success, sometimes with more. Anyway, for over two decades he sounds like this, more or less: voca.ro/1bRFbAMA5C4sWhile in the 90s he was really singing, he voice was more relaxed and it sounded more like this: voca.ro/1epcJVSlw8kTJust much better 😄🫡
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Post by andymorris on Sept 23, 2024 5:58:38 GMT -5
+ the jonathan ross performance is mimed, nothing has changed on that front He is shouting for the past 25 years. Sometimes with less success, sometimes with more. Anyway, for over two decades he sounds like this, more or less: voca.ro/1bRFbAMA5C4sWhile in the 90s he was really singing, he voice was more relaxed and it sounded more like this: voca.ro/1epcJVSlw8kTJust much better 😄🫡 He wasnt constipated in the 90s, that's all. Its clear something is bothering him since the mid 00s
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Post by oasisserbia on Sept 23, 2024 6:07:30 GMT -5
He is shouting for the past 25 years. Sometimes with less success, sometimes with more. Anyway, for over two decades he sounds like this, more or less: voca.ro/1bRFbAMA5C4sWhile in the 90s he was really singing, he voice was more relaxed and it sounded more like this: voca.ro/1epcJVSlw8kTJust much better 😄🫡 He wasnt constipated in the 90s, that's all. Its clear something is bothering him since the mid 00s My theory is that at some point he decided his voice was too thin and has been constantly trying to achieve a fuller sound, closer to that raw version of Lennon, while consistently running away from his earlier self, who sang beautifully. He is trying too hard to be cool and everything is too soft for him. I still believe that he can sing if he tries. And people are still saying that he is fine and that he is not shouting 😂
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Post by Diamond in The Dark on Sept 23, 2024 6:08:58 GMT -5
Those who are not fans but know Oasis superficially only from the (studio) songs played on the radio, would probably also criticize Liam's singing from 1996 if they listened to it today. People are used to perfect things and pop. If you start singing in a different way or with a more rock approach they tell you that you can't sing. It happened to many rock icons. If instead we talk about the health of his vocal cords, we know perfectly well that he is no longer the Liam of 1996 and we also know that there are glorious days and tragic days and his performance at Wembley was neither of the two. It was Liam's normal voice when he is coming back from a big tour. He will soon be back in better condition with rest and cortisone. But, I repeat, for lovers of pop singing, Liam would have been a scandal even in the 90s.
If you don't like it, change your musical tastes. There are thousands of other bands. No one forces them to like Oasis.
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Post by sheisloved on Sept 23, 2024 6:20:09 GMT -5
Are you guys still talking about his voice lol?
Geez the North American tour date announcement can't come soon enough lol
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Post by 2nz on Sept 23, 2024 6:32:13 GMT -5
Two things-
Having your teeth knocked down your throat by some munich gangsters might have more impact than he'd care to imagine.
He still sounds a million times better than Ian Brown when they did their reunion.
I thought he was alright on Saturday night- I heard it on the radio first, and thought it all sounded fairly good.
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Post by RocketMan on Sept 23, 2024 6:33:41 GMT -5
I don’t understand what all the fuzz is about liam sounds like he always does
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Post by andymorris on Sept 23, 2024 6:47:38 GMT -5
He wasnt constipated in the 90s, that's all. Its clear something is bothering him since the mid 00s My theory is that at some point he decided his voice was too thin and has been constantly trying to achieve a fuller sound, closer to that raw version of Lennon, while consistently running away from his earlier self, who sang beautifully. He is trying too hard to be cool and everything is too soft for him. I still believe that he can sing if he tries. And people are still saying that he is fine and that he is not shouting 😂 Its also due to the position. Its putting a constraint on the throat and vocals cords. Try and sing like that for 2 hours, its very, very tiring. Now, this wasn't a problem in his 20s, because the body heals faster, and then it became a problem. I recall he changed the position and lowered the mic sometimes (when?) in the past and it was better. but of course he could not shout. But Having done a few gigs myself, you do tend to shout at loud gigs though. Its the way it is. Way more than in studio
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Post by oasisserbia on Sept 23, 2024 6:47:53 GMT -5
Those who are not fans but know Oasis superficially only from the (studio) songs played on the radio, would probably also criticize Liam's singing from 1996 if they listened to it today. People are used to perfect things and pop. If you start singing in a different way or with a more rock approach they tell you that you can't sing. It happened to many rock icons. If instead we talk about the health of his vocal cords, we know perfectly well that he is no longer the Liam of 1996 and we also know that there are glorious days and tragic days and his performance at Wembley was neither of the two. It was Liam's normal voice when he is coming back from a big tour. He will soon be back in better condition with rest and cortisone. But, I repeat, for lovers of pop singing, Liam would have been a scandal even in the 90s. If you don't like it, change your musical tastes. There are thousands of other bands. No one forces them to like Oasis. My issue with Liam is that this his conscious decision. We’re not talking about high notes; no one can convince me that he can’t sing two words correctly - “Hey you.” No one is saying that he should sing the “Before you start faaaaaalling” part as he was in 1993. But we haven’t even gotten to that part; my problem with his singing is that it’s his conscious choice. It’s not that he can’t sing, he has chosen this style. He starts the songs in that manner, and I criticize his decision. You can’t convince me that he can’t sing two words: “Hey you”. We all can He chooses to sing them like this: voca.ro/1irOnqrZkx8MYou can’t convince me that he can’t sing it just like this; any man can. voca.ro/1or012CawlV3And I criticize his artistic choice. Because it is his choice, not an inability to sing due to losing his voice.
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Post by elephantstone93 on Sept 23, 2024 6:54:50 GMT -5
Boring.
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Post by draper on Sept 23, 2024 7:45:38 GMT -5
sounds fine in Malta
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Post by surrealneil on Sept 23, 2024 8:14:11 GMT -5
Two things- Having your teeth knocked down your throat by some munich gangsters might have more impact than he'd care to imagine. He still sounds a million times better than Ian Brown when they did their reunion. I thought he was alright on Saturday night- I heard it on the radio first, and thought it all sounded fairly good. They weren't gangsters. They were estate agents on a business trip.
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Post by freddy838 on Sept 23, 2024 8:28:48 GMT -5
He sang through a thyroid condition for God knows how long. Most of the time he has got it back to roughly 2000 standard which is good enough for me.
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Post by Noel's house party on Sept 23, 2024 8:54:47 GMT -5
Well I'm back from London and my bloody £250 shit travel lodge ! Love boxing but for whatever reason never seen it live, so weird without commentators ! Liam i was so looking forward to, I'm a huge fan BUT the sound was crap. Obviously it was set up for the boxing not the music so its not like he had a huge wall of speakers or that, it sounded like someone was singing far corner of the stadium and you kinda could hear it but the quality was crap. The people near me didnt enjoy it at all which was weird to see, but after every song there was tons of applause. The syncing was bad so you would look at the screens and it really didnt tally up with the words. Not Liams fault, from what i've seen on TV later he sounded great, but being there at the stadium (I wasnt in the nosebleed seats) the sound was awful I disagree, I was there also and Liam made my night, everyone was singing and it sounded great to me (was 8 pints in though) bring on next summer. Agree with the lack of commentary that was a weird experience.
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Post by sheisloved on Sept 23, 2024 9:03:55 GMT -5
Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
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Post by thuperthonic on Sept 23, 2024 9:08:26 GMT -5
I just wish he'd stop with the gum chewing lol
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